Dionne Warwick not convinced that Beyonce is a classic or iconic artist with a classic catalogue

[King Frost]

I told you Beyincé jr was


many real singers feel this way but they wanna get the keri hilson/ keyshia cole treatment

 

[???]

Beyonce is a legend. Up there with all the greatest ever.But vocally she is probably the least talent of all the legendary songtresses on the level. Nobody will ever say she can out sing, Mariah, Whitney, Aretha etc.And thats really the reason people tend to be a lil critical of her despite of her overall success and tons of classic records. Realistically her Talent should have kept her at a Janet or Diana level of icon(still very highly respected and successful but not the once in a generation talents vocally). But she somehow managed to surpass that to reach the upper echelon with Aretha and Mariah type singers. But it never felt like she belonged.

Nobody is talking about singing, sales or dancing ability. All the top superstar artists always have flaws/missing attributes. The focus of this thread is essentially about the body of work meaning the quality of the music.

Her solo shyt is borderline average which is weird since she always hires so many writers for her projects. This is why none of her shyt is believable. It aint from the heart. She has no personality, all the kudos she usually gets is focused primarily on her looks. It's mostly just hype spearheaded by the media.

 

[CrimsonTider]

Forced to lean back

 

[Kasgoinjail]

I told you Beyincé jr was


many real singers feel this way but they wanna get the keri hilson/ keyshia cole treatment

Even Jazmine Sullivan bangs harder vocal as some one said
Beyonce is a package
Men want a woman like her and women want to be her

It’s gone past legendary music and performances like MJ
It’s a whole cult of personality thanks to media narcissism

Just look at grown arse men inn this thread getting heated because Dionne gave her opinion on a question she was asked

 

[???]

Even Jazmine Sullivan bangs harder vocal as some one saidBeyonce is a package. Men want a woman like her and women want to be her. It’s gone past legendary music and performances like MJ. It’s a whole cult of personality thanks to media narcissism. Just look at grown arse men inn this thread getting heated because Dionne gave her opinion on a question she was asked

It's now flash over substance. Beyonce gets so much help for all her projects and yet her solo shyt is so mediocre. People praise solange's music over hers all the time and she's underground, this is a fact.

 

[jwonder]

I agree. BeyondStank is a pop artist. Definitely not discounting her accolades, but she doesn't have the type of music you feel deep in your soul. Aretha, Gladys, Patti, Etta, etc all made music you can dance to. But they had that music that you can feel.

 

[Luke Cage]

Nobody is talking about singing ability, sales or dancing. All the top superstar artists always have flaws/missing attributes. The focus of this thread is essentially about the body of work meaning the quality of the music.

Her solo shyt is borderline average which is weird since she always hires so many writers for her projects. This is why none of her shyt is believable. It aint from the heart. She has no personality, all the kudos she usually gets is focused primarily on her looks.

It is about singing. Unless you are Alicia Keys and are composing the entire song from top to bottom i don't give you credit for body of work without the singing ability to make it timeless. Being an average singer on great song you didn't write just means you are one rendition of that record, a cover. Eventually someone else will come along and own that track and make people forget about your version. Like Whitney did with that white lady. Steve Wonder's superstition was a cover song and people still have know clue that Jeff Beck wrote and performed that song too. Otis Redding sang RESPECT before Aretha, but fukk his version that's hers now. All it takes is some Aretha level talent singer to do a live performance of independent woman by Beyonce and people will do the same thing to her. Treat Beyonce's version like a pre-rebooted x-men movie

 

[???]

It is about singing. Unless you are Alicia Keys and are composing the entire song from top to bottom i don't give you credit for body of work without the singing ability to make it timeless. Being an average singer on great song you didn't write just means you are one rendition of that record, a cover. Eventually someone else will come along and own that track and make people forget about your version. Like Whitney did with that white lady. Steve Wonder's superstition was a cover song and people still have know clue that Jeff Beck wrote and performed that song too. Otis Redding sang RESPECT before Aretha, but fukk his version that's hers now. All it takes is some Aretha level talent singer to do a live performance of independent woman by Beyonce and people will do the same thing to her. Treat Beyonce's version like a pre-rebooted x-men movie

Stop it... It's not about the singing. The remakes bullshyt you're talking about, the melodies always get flipped. They never stick to the original, so gtfoh with that goofy shyt.

Anyone can listen to a song and think of a beat or sound and voice that can make the shyt better, I do it all the time and I aint even a professional. Puffy and many others did it many times and he's not even a real artist.

 

[feelosofer]

Beyonce is about as iconic as its going to get in this microwave era of music. Yes you can pick apart her music as much as you like but she has earned her way into iconic status as much as anyone has the past 20 years.

 

[Luke Cage]

Stop it... It's not about the singing. The remakes bullshyt you're talking about, the melodies always get flipped. They never stick to the original, so gtfoh with that goofy shyt.

Anyone can listen to a song and think of a beat or sound and voice that can make the shyt better, I do it all the time and I aint even a professional.

nah, this is non instrumental music. Singing is always the most important aspect.

 

[JOHN.KOOL]

Me, myself and I is the only Beyonce song i can think off that i can see getting played by people long in the future.

 

[???]

nah, this is non instrumental music. Singing is always the most important aspect.

That dolly parton shyt was country, whitney just made it r&b. Same with many others. Puffy flipped that sting song and put faith evans on i'll be missing you etc. Beyonce and many others have great singing ability. We are specifically talking about the quality of the solo tracks she has made so far..

 

[Lootha VanDraws]

I wanna fukk Beyoncé waayyy more than I wanna fukk Dionne . Sorry, that's all I got for this one.

 

[???]

BTW, all the people on here saying beyonce's singing ability is average don't know what the hell they're talking about. She is very good, i mean very good. U talking about covers. Beyonce has done tina turner, diana ross, patti songs and many others in tributes and completely destroyed. So all this talk about beyonce's singing is average is nonsense, that's just hate right there.

Her own music tho is nothing special, nothing to write home about, that's the problem.

 

[Vandelay]

I don't even like Beyonce, but this is horseshyt.

Pure generational divide.