Dinesh D'Souza on Black failure

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yawn, same ol same ol. As an academic its tiring seeing black people discussed as an exception to world-wide conditions. Same afflication as any other marginalized group. That's not an excuse, just the way of the world. When the marginalization is over, it will end.
 

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:heh: so the Washington wizards are a dynasty

im not sure what you mean by that, but what i meant is that if the goal of the washington wizard isnt to win a championship they might as well just give it up and disband the team, what kind of professional team goes around and say our goal is to be equal, if they do they deserve to lose

The culture is American. America has to change it.

yeah and the majority of america is white, so you are saying that black people cannot come up until white people change their culture, so according to you the future of black people is dependent on white people and their culture

Keep believing them and you will keep being lost.

ok

You're the one making assumptions.

yeah and im not aware of any reason as to why my assumption is wrong, i think most civil rights leaders assumed that civil rights and economics go hand in hand

No it's not a sin but your critique isn't based in reality. For the civil rights movement to be a failure economically we'd have to be worse off, but we are not, we are much better off.

my critique is based in reality, in fact a lot of people have critiqued the civil rights movement because of economics

Reality is that social equality equals economic equality. It's like that here in America and everywhere else on the planet and at any time in history.

no it doesnt, i dont think you know a lot about american or world history to make a statement like that

and why do you say that im making stuff up when i say people equate civil rights with economics and then you go ahead and confirm what i just said

Again name a minority that is dominant anywhere on earth and at anytime in history

and again, i just told you one, jews

You're just making shyt up as you go. Success is going from slave to president in 100 years.

you can define success anyway you want to, if that is the way you define success that's you

No they don't thats some shyt you made up just so you can argue against it on the Internet.

im not making anything up, i would say if you ask black political leaders about economics 80-90 percent of them would start talking some leftist/liberal economic theory

Says you who has reaped all the benefits of their blood sweat and tears.

yeah and that sacrifice is what allows me to make a critique, in fact if i simply followed along using the same strategy from the 1960's in 2013 i think i would be doing the disservice to people from the civil rights era

This is a strawman that you created. Please stop attacking it.

its not a strawman, you just said it right now that black people can never come up until white people decide to treat you as an equal
 

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i dont know, i never said you can dominate while ignoring white people, i said that we shouldn't have an ideology that is dependent on the whims of white people

So how do we do it? You said that if white people are part of the plan, then that means we are "dependant on white people" so how do we do it without them as part of the plan?
 

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So how do we do it? You said that if white people are part of the plan, then that means we are "dependant on white people" so how do we do it without them as part of the plan?

as far as how that is for the next generation to figure out, but my point is that that is the goal, our goal should not be to be equal

but fundamentally black people need to focus on education to create a foundation for world domination
 

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as far as how that is for the next generation to figure out, but my point is that that is the goal, our goal should not be to be equal

but fundamentally black people need to focus on education to create a foundation for world domination

Again sounds good on paper, but cant be applied to real life. You don't even know the answers to that nonsense you're talking.
 

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Again sounds good on paper, but cant be applied to real life. You don't even know the answers to that nonsense you're talking.

and thats fine, you can think that, as long as you get it straight what im saying

you arent really at a level where you can get what im saying
 

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and thats fine, you can think that, as long as you get it straight what im saying

you arent really at a level where you can get what im saying

:rudy: you're not at a level where you can see reality. Nothing you've said is based in reality. It's all just Internet theory. When I ask you to apply it to real life you can't.
 

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:dwillhuh: How does 6 million people in a country of 330 million equal a majority

Do you know what a majority is

Why aren't Jews counted as a minority in any other sense than you goofy nikkas on the coli?

When they give you your minority stats y'all like to quote there is no section for Jews. Why?

Why aren't Italian people considered minorities?
 

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Why aren't Jews counted as a minority in any other sense than you goofy nikkas on the coli?

When they give you your minority stats y'all like to quote there is no section for Jews. Why?

Why aren't Italian people considered minorities?
When people say "minority" they usually refer to race. Jews and Italians aren't a race, they are followers of a religion and nationality respectively. And Jews are definitely a religious minority. If Jews were such a minority, why are there only 8 Jewish politicians in office nationally vs the thousands and thousands of Christians. Jews are a minority, you hating or being scared of them won't change that.
 

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:rudy: you're not at a level where you can see reality. Nothing you've said is based in reality. It's all just Internet theory. When I ask you to apply it to real life you can't.

yeah you can look at it that way, good luck in trying to get white people to like you, apparently thats the only reality you are aware of
 

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When people say "minority" they usually refer to race. Jews and Italians aren't a race, they are followers of a religion and nationality respectively. And Jews are definitely a religious minority. If Jews were such a minority, why are there only 8 Jewish politicians in office nationally vs the thousands and thousands of Christians. Jews are a minority, you hating or being scared of them won't change that.

:mindblown: who said I hated them or was scared. You dudes just like to argue about nothing. I know Jews are a religious minority, but that has nothing to do with the conversation at hand.
 
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