Dinesh D'Souza on Black failure

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Hold up, Hold Up Coli,

why are we even given this dude pages of responses?

Ask yourself this question if you're black. Why is it, that everyone wants to look into the black persons pathology but no one wants to look into their own?


When was the last time a "Conservative" wrote an article, book, spoke on, etc about their own issues?

I mean this INDIAN dude is trying to tell me about racism and my black folks. HOld up mr INDIAN from INDIA. how's about you work on you and yours first, then come holla at me.

lets talk about INDIA and the INDIAN man pathology. what the hell is going on in India where its okay for you to treat females like this. i say females because its not just WOMEN its also little girls.

i'll be waiting for this INDIAN Conservative man's answers. I also need him to come up with Fixes as well. not just why. but fixes.

exhibit A.

India Gang Rape: Woman Assaulted By Bus Driver, Conductor

India Gang Rape: Woman Assaulted By Bus Driver, Conductor

NEW DELHI — Police said Sunday they have arrested six suspects in another gang rape of a bus passenger in India, four weeks after a brutal attack on a student on a moving bus in the capital outraged Indians and led to calls for tougher rape laws.

Police officer Raj Jeet Singh said a 29-year-old woman was the only passenger on a bus as she was traveling to her village in northern Punjab state on Friday night. The driver refused to stop at her village despite her repeated pleas and drove her to a desolate location, he said.

There, the driver and the conductor took her to a building where they were joined by five friends and took turns raping her throughout the night, Singh said.

The driver dropped the woman off at her village early Saturday, he said.

Singh said police arrested six suspects on Saturday and were searching for another.

Gurmej Singh, deputy superintendent of police, said all six admitted involvement in the rape. He said the victim was recovering at home.

Also on Saturday, police arrested a 32-year-old man for allegedly raping and killing a 9-year-old girl two weeks ago in Ahmednagar district in western India, the Press Trust of India news agency reported. Her decomposed body was found Friday.

Police officer Sunita Thakare said the suspect committed the crime seven months after his release from prison after serving nine years for raping and murdering a girl in 2003, PTI reported Sunday.

The deadly rape of a 23-year-old student on a New Delhi bus in December led to the woman's death and set off an impassioned debate about what India needs to do to prevent such tragedies. Protesters and politicians have called for tougher rape laws, police reforms and a transformation in the way the country treats women.


"It's a very deep malaise. This aspect of gender justice hasn't been dealt with in our nation-building task," Seema Mustafa, a writer on social issues who heads the Center for Policy Analysis think tank, said Sunday.

"Police haven't dealt with the issue severely in the past. The message that goes out is that the punishment doesn't match the crime. Criminals think they can get away it," she said.

In her first published comments, the mother of the deceased student in the New Delhi attack said Sunday that all six suspects in that case, including one believed to be a juvenile, deserve to die.

She was quoted by The Times of India newspaper as saying that her daughter, who died from massive internal injuries two weeks after the attack, told her that the youngest suspect had participated in the most brutal aspects of the rape.

exhibit B.

Indian police: Three young sisters raped and killed
Three young sisters raped and killed

NEW DELHI (AP) — Indian police said Thursday that they have launched a manhunt for men suspected of raping and killing three sisters, ages 5 to 11, in the latest case of sexual violence to grip the country.

The sisters' bodies were found in a village well in Bhandara district in Maharashtra state on Feb. 14 after they had gone missing from school, police officer Javed Ahmed said. The area is more than 1,000 kilometers (630 miles) south of New Delhi, the capital.

As the victims' mother accused police of a shoddy investigation, enraged villagers forced shops to close, burned tires and blocked a national highway passing through the area for several hours on Wednesday, demanding justice.

"The police did not take the case seriously and did nothing for two days," the CNN-IBN television news channel quoted the mother as saying. Her name was withheld.

One police officer has been suspended for not acting promptly, Indian Heavy Industries Minister Praful Patel, who represents Bhandara district in Parliament, told reporters in New Delhi.

Come on mr INDIAN Conservative. GO back home, and take care of the house first. then come and holla at us.

 

[sfgiants]

Hold up, Hold Up Coli,

why are we even given this dude pages of responses?

Ask yourself this question if you're black. Why is it, that everyone wants to look into the black persons pathology but no one wants to look into their own?


When was the last time a "Conservative" wrote an article, book, spoke on, etc about their own issues?

I mean this INDIAN dude is trying to tell me about racism and my black folks. HOld up mr INDIAN from INDIA. how's about you work on you and yours first, then come holla at me.

lets talk about INDIA and the INDIAN man pathology. what the hell is going on in India where its okay for you to treat females like this. i say females because its not just WOMEN its also little girls.

i'll be waiting for this INDIAN Conservative man's answers. I also need him to come up with Fixes as well. not just why. but fixes.

exhibit A.



exhibit B.




Come on mr INDIAN Conservative. GO back home, and take care of the house first. then come and holla at us.

not that i agree with this indian dude, but this is just very bad logic.
straw man, red herring, ad hominem, im sure there are more logical fallacies in this post.

 

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not that i agree with this indian dude, but this is just very bad logic.
straw man, red herring, ad hominem, im sure there are more logical fallacies in this post.

sorry its not. just because you only see the surface doesnt mean what i said wasnt correct.

ask yourself, why does everyone want to FIX the black folks? but we never get to hear about them fixing their own? when i say their own, we're talking about the average versions of themselves in addition to the downtrodden.

you come all the way from india with all that stuff going on right there in your homeland. men acting like they are not even in the 21 century when it comes to women. but yet you have black people in america figured out?
i call BS.

how often do you hear black professors, talking about India men from india and their issues with their own indian females? hardly ever , IF EVER.

how often do you hear black professors, or intellects, talking about the batch of white males in america always ready to blow something up, shoot up the place, etc... and what WHITE men need to do differently ? hardly EVER.

you know why? because black intellects are to busy talking about their OWN people and issues.

you ever heard the saying.... Get your house in order before you try to work on someone else's?

Let me take it a step further for your types that either know whats going on and try to play like you dont because you're apart of this thought process. OR you really dont know whats going on.


Why does everyone seem to have a solution for black people's ills in america?
its not because they really care. its not because they really have a solution(even if some things they say have merit). it has nothing to do with that at all. stop getting played black folks. these people do this to make THEMSELVES feel better.

there's two reasons to speak on people that need help.
#1 you really want to help those people
or
#2 you use your discussion as a cover for your real reason, which is to make yourself feel good. No matter how low i might become in life. I aint never as low as you black people. and here's why....., ...., .....

WHy on earth would this Indian conservative dude care more about black americans then he does his own countrymen back home? does that add up to you? of course it doesnt.

so this is why i say, i refuse to listen to any #2 's. even if something they say is correct. its the principal. part of our problem is being ignorant and naive to whats going on with these other folks when they attempt to deal with us or talk about us. we are so quick to allow someone into our family/community. we're so quick to be happy you care. that we dont pay attention to the warning signs.

as bad as that situation is in India with those indian men and their poor treatment of women. There is not enough time in the day for me as a black man to dwell on that. i cant write a book about it, speak on it any more then i have in this thread with a little copy and paste of the articles. why? because black people have wayyy to many issues we need fixed right here at home for me to have time to jump ship and worry about the indian's issues.

and stop with the "but but, is he right thought?" NO i refuse to answer that question. DO NOT FEED THE TROLL. give me someone who cares that looks like me, or a white person that keeps it 150, not tim wise either. i'm talking about a white person that admits they are racist, and has been since, since, and admits to everything that has happened to us via them and still does happen to us via them. then and only then will i give a little room for said white person to speak on black folks. but even then. what he/she cant say is keep leaning on what the problem is and trying to attribute it to us. if white man,woman wants to help. great. as long as they fix their own situation and admit to their issues in their own situation. and admit to everything they have done worldwide. then start helping people in the best way they can. that means if you know how to work your finances and you see a bunch of black young adults do not. well then, go teach a class to them for FREE. take them by the hand and HELP for real.

 

[sfgiants]

sorry its not. just because you only see the surface doesnt mean what i said wasnt correct.

ask yourself, why does everyone want to FIX the black folks? but we never get to hear about them fixing their own? when i say their own, we're talking about the average versions of themselves in addition to the downtrodden.

you come all the way from india with all that stuff going on right there in your homeland. men acting like they are not even in the 21 century when it comes to women. but yet you have black people in america figured out?
i call BS.

how often do you hear black professors, talking about India men from india and their issues with their own indian females? hardly ever , IF EVER.

how often do you hear black professors, or intellects, talking about the batch of white males in america always ready to blow something up, shoot up the place, etc... and what WHITE men need to do differently ? hardly EVER.

you know why? because black intellects are to busy talking about their OWN people and issues.

you ever heard the saying.... Get your house in order before you try to work on someone else's?

i wasnt attacking the premise of your argument, it's just that the way you constructed it is logically flawed.
you are trying to discredit his position because he is a) indian and b) because of issues indians face in india, which have nothing to do with his argument. he never said "look at me im indian and i am better than you, black man" and he didnt say india was so much more progressive and ahead of america in any issue regarding race or gender.

you don't disprove someone's position by attacking their character, or race, or gender, or their background. you disprove an argument by addressing it directly.

 

[theworldismine13]

sorry its not. just because you only see the surface doesnt mean what i said wasnt correct.

ask yourself, why does everyone want to FIX the black folks? but we never get to hear about them fixing their own? when i say their own, we're talking about the average versions of themselves in addition to the downtrodden.

you come all the way from india with all that stuff going on right there in your homeland. men acting like they are not even in the 21 century when it comes to women. but yet you have black people in america figured out?
i call BS.

how often do you hear black professors, talking about India men from india and their issues with their own indian females? hardly ever , IF EVER.

how often do you hear black professors, or intellects, talking about the batch of white males in america always ready to blow something up, shoot up the place, etc... and what WHITE men need to do differently ? hardly EVER.

you know why? because black intellects are to busy talking about their OWN people and issues.

you ever heard the saying.... Get your house in order before you try to work on someone else's?

its that you are making an a moral assertion, you are saying he shouldnt do what he is doing, and you can be absolutely right at a moral level

but nothing you have said contradicts anything that he said, so therefore its a logical fallacy, an ad hominem attack

so basically 'mind your own business", which is essentially what you are saying and which you may have the right to feel, is not considered to be a logical retort

i will agree that he isnt a good messenger but i still think overall he's right in that fighting racism is not the key to creating wealth, the key is changing black culture to be more academically oriented and more capitalism, at the end of the day ending racism is not an economic plan

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

i find your worldview disgusting and repugnant

I am open to all thoughts and ideologies

 

[theworldismine13]

Is there a problem?

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

Is there a problem?

Nope, just an observation/confirmation. You good

 

[theworldismine13]

Nope, just an observation/confirmation. You good

Yeah, I just don't see why posted that, I'm open to all ideas and ideologies that doesn't mean I don't have an opinion about it

And btw I apologize for all the emotional distress my posts have apparently caused you

 

[theworldismine13]

And also when you quote me you should really post a link to the post, I think everybody would appreciate that

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

By a show of hands, who else here is open to things they find disgusting and repugnant

 

[throughthefire]

i seriously think dinesh is actually a liberal disguised as a conservative to make the conservative based seem crazy. i would also include donald trump in taht category lmao

 

[theworldismine13]

By a show of hands, who else here is open to things they find disgusting and repugnant

*raises hands*

i have open conversations with you and i find you disgusting and repugnant

i dont see what the big deal is, im all about having an open free intellectual environment where all ideas are considered, but all ideas and ideologies have their judgement day when they have to show and prove and if they dont they go in the

 

[The Real]

And also when you quote me you should really post a link to the post, I think everybody would appreciate that

How many times is someone going to have to tell you- when you quote someone, there's a small blue button with a white arrow on it that appears right after the poster's name. That button is a link to the post where the quote is from, and clicking it will take you there. When you're reading this post, look at your name in the quote box above, and click the button right next to it.

 

[VerbalIntercourse]

Dinesh is right, but I wouldn't discount genetics entirely.

If silver foxes can be bred to behave completely different, then I don't see why 400 years of slavery wouldn't have an effect on the Afram population.

I don't think the slave masters wanted people who were independent, self-reliant, and generally smarter than them. They wanted docile...well domesticated human beings who did what they were told, and couldn't really live without their masters.

I think Aframs are the victims of White enforced eugenics, and in the long scheme of things, whites need to pay for their sins. They assumed the role of gods, and it bit them in the back.

The source population of west africans is not as athletically inclined as the aframs. I have a feeling that comparing west africans to Aframs is not a fair comparison. African immigrants do well, but I don't think that means Aframs are going to do well.