Did rewatching Dragonball Z change opinions you had about certain characters?

[AquaCityBoy]

Didn't realize how nerfed the rest of the Z Fighters are by the Buu saga.

Piccolo becomes a glorified jobber to the stars

 

[Mr. Manhattan]

Trunks debut is much more epic in Japanese/Spanish versions



that music is fukkin raw
the part where Frieza looks at Trunks and starts having PTSD flashbacks of Goku gives me chills

 

[Sir Charles Barkley]

Trunks debut is much more epic in Japanese/Spanish versions



that music is fukkin raw
the part where Frieza looks at Trunks and starts having PTSD flashbacks of Goku gives me chills

king cold seeing his son get murked in 2 seconds by some random kid on some throwaway planet is like the equivalent of seeing brock lesnar get taken down by a 9 year old...


had him thinkin it was a magic sword

 

[raidersreceiver]

I rewatching from dragon ball when goku was a kid since I had never seen the series just a couple of movies and random episodes. Lmao at goku patting everyone's p*ssy

 

[twan83]

Trunks debut is much more epic in Japanese/Spanish versions



that music is fukkin raw
the part where Frieza looks at Trunks and starts having PTSD flashbacks of Goku gives me chills

Cuz America was on that bs with dbz I ended up watching the Spanish version till end of cell cant remember if I did buy
All I know was at the flea market down here since I'm near the border or basically am they had cell hyped the fukk up like he was the ultimate villain with the posters and shyt in his final form and the spanish show didnt even had him out yet it was barely when trunks showed up

 

[Spliff]

Only issue with Faulconer's score was the lack of empty BGM scenes. Japanese does it beautifully. KungFu-esque. Great tension building tool that clears the way for powerful dialogue.

Other than that, he hit the big scenes.

This new age hate he gets is confusing.

 

[T’Challa’s Heir]

I always didn’t get why Gohan didn’t keep training. I get that he never wanted that life. But in a span of like 5 years he was indirectly responsible for saving the earth twice. And he directly saved it from the strongest villain they had ever experienced. It was likely that if some shyt jumped off, outside of Vegeta, no one was going to be able to stand up to it.

 

[010101]

the writing is trash

the character development is ass

it comes down to bright colors & flashy fight sequences

they catch you based on childhood nostalgia

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[MischievousMonkey]

Power scaling is basically measuring a characters power by comparing them to other characters power levels at certain times during a series. And he's right, the power scaling is absolutely ridiculous when you look back at it

Goku and Piccolo were the strongest characters at the start of DBZ and could barely beat Raditz together. Raditz was then said to have the same strength as a mere Saibamen. As you remember Krillin took out four Saibamen at once. For reference, in a year's time Krillin went from being weaker than Goku and Piccolo and getting slapped around by Raditz's tail to being able obliterate Raditz with one attack

Meanwhile Goku went from not even being able to take on Raditz to making sport of Nappa and even besting Vegeta (with the help of kaioken) in just one year. Don't even get me started on how absurd the power scaling was on Namek

But raw power isn't necessarily representative of the overall abilities of a character though.
We don't know if this raw power statistic they have measures speed, agility, resistance...

Krillin gained in raw power, sufficiently enough to be able to destroy a Saibaman with his most powerful attack. That doesn't mean he would have won against Raditz though because Raditz is way more intelligent (could have dodged it) and probably more resistant than a Saibaman too. There are plenty moments in the manga where an enemy stronger than the hero acknowledge that "if this shyt had touched me, it would have been bad...". Doesn't mean they're not stronger, it just means that they can still be hurt by someone weaker, but don't sweat it because they have more abilities overall.

This power scaling problem people have with Dragon Ball Z imo stems from the fact they tend to view everything through strength and raw power when there are a lot more variables.

 

[MischievousMonkey]

Krillin got gored, Gohan spent a while getting beat on, Vegeta spent an entire episode getting strangled and punched while spitting up blood. I mean even a kid got blown up. It ended with the bad guy getting sliced into bits and begging for his life. If it was less violent, the difference was marginal at best

Looking back to keep in character with this thread, I think that might’ve been the beat fight. It was physical with a ton of striking on both ends, both sides hurt each other bad with big moves, all fighters fought to exhaustion to the point they can’t even complete attacks, the bad guy held the edge but not to the point that some of the good guys fighting were borderline useless, it didn’t run some 25 episodes (it ran 5-6), and seeing the bad guy keep coming back to fight some more after the beam struggle, his tail being cut off, surviving the spirit bomb, and even still surviving being crushed at the end was some type of shyt to see. Him telling them they’re idiots for letting him go and that he’s gonna come back and choke the life from them when his ship is leaving was some truly shyt.

Breh for real, rewatching the Sayian saga made me realize how fukking scary Vegeta was at the time. I watched it with my lil breh and he was like everytime Vegeta came back.

HE JUST WOULDN'T DIE!! Even when you thought they finally pulled it off, there was some good positive music, they were smiling and shyt, you heard that breh voice in the background like

Breh was terrifying. The way he cursed them when he crawled back into his ship sheeeit I was begging for Krillin to kill him but that man Goku doesn't give a fukk about Earth's future now does he

 

[The_Phonz]

I'm currently rewatching Buu Saga and I'm realizing how much Super saves Vegeta as a character because I'm trying to figure out why anyone fukks with this guy and his consistent bad decision making at the cost of wanting to fight someone that doesn't even want to be bothered like that. He's a damn good villain though

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

I'm currently rewatching Buu Saga and I'm realizing how much Super saves Vegeta as a character because I'm trying to figure out why anyone fukks with this guy and his consistent bad decision making at the cost of wanting to fight someone that doesn't even want to be bothered like that. He's a damn good villain though

Decision making went off the rails overall an entire saga before that. I even recall someone giving cell a senzu bean :mjplo:

 

[The_Phonz]

Decision making went off the rails overall an entire saga before that. I even recall someone giving cell a senzu bean :mjplo:

WOATku was really out here trying to give the villain a fair fight with his son. Probably should've asked the real father how to handle decision making :PicolloPls:

 

[MischievousMonkey]

fukk outta here








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You mean to tell me that wasn't the music yall got when you were watching dbz as youngings in the US?


Yall got fukked over why even put some other music, this is the first reason why I can't watch shyt other than the french original version

 

[MischievousMonkey]

OG version filled with bangers



Chills down my spine everytime I watch this scene and hear the music. Build up episode after episode was just too well done