Did Naruto fall off for you? If it did, then why?

What caused Naruto to fall off?

  • Naruto being revealed as ninja royalty ruined his "underdog" status and the theme of the series

    Votes: 23 31.1%
  • Too much Sasuke/the Uchihas taking over the storyline

    Votes: 17 23.0%
  • Naruto's whole character becoming all about saving Sasuke :cape:

    Votes: 37 50.0%
  • Dope side characters becoming irrelvant post-timeskip (except for Shikamaru)

    Votes: 36 48.6%
  • Female characters being treated like an afterthought

    Votes: 14 18.9%
  • Too much filler

    Votes: 29 39.2%
  • It lost the comedy of the first part

    Votes: 5 6.8%
  • Pein bringing everyone he killed back to life

    Votes: 24 32.4%
  • Irredeemable terrorists and killers like Orochimaru, etc being forgiven too easily

    Votes: 28 37.8%
  • The powers, abilities, and ninja bloodlines got too overpowered and ridiculous

    Votes: 28 37.8%
  • Tobi becoming the final villain

    Votes: 11 14.9%
  • Too many flashbacks

    Votes: 11 14.9%
  • Rock Lee should have been the main character (Lee vs Gaara :banderas: )

    Votes: 17 23.0%
  • Other

    Votes: 10 13.5%
  • Naruto never fell off, it was always dope

    Votes: 5 6.8%

  • Total voters
    74

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how you the GOAT, and never have been the face of your own magazine(weekly shonen jump)

or never went #1 in sales in japan(even Death note beat One Piece one time) Naruto at best went #2 if not just barely made #4 or 5 in sales

Naruto is not the GOAT of its gen it will always be the 2nd /side kick/little brother to One Piece which is the true GOAT of its gen and will go down as the GOAT of shonen manga

Naruto's impact globally is undeniable. nikkas weren't out here imitating devil fruit powers and shyt, everyone was doing hand seals. One Piece is immensely popular in japan, but Naruto was poppin in Japan and the West. Naruto is more iconic that Luffy is.

and Dragonball is the GOAT shonen anyway. In terms of impact and influence it tops both Naruto and OP
 

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Naruto's impact globally is undeniable. nikkas weren't out here imitating devil fruit powers and shyt, everyone was doing hand seals. One Piece is immensely popular in japan, but Naruto was poppin in Japan and the West. Naruto is more iconic that Luffy is.

and Dragonball is the GOAT shonen anyway. In terms of impact and influence it tops both Naruto and OP
What u said applies in US. But the world is bigger than US and Japan.

Op is popular in Europe, Latin America, Asia, middle east etc.

So as Naruto was popular wedt and east. So was OP

Global influence - Op is rn influencing artist in and out of Japan.

Infact a Black french looking manga artist cited One Piece as his influence

Then u got that MHA artist who cites Oda as his hero and so on.

Naruto is not more iconic, ur saying dumb shyt saying that. Luffy is and will always be more iconic than Naruto.

DB is not GOAT, OP is matching it influence, beats it on sales, been the face of the magazine longer and others I can list.
 

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The didn't let the demon Madara go crazy enough, fukk Kaguya Madara was the villain the whole time.

Abandoned plotlines and no side character development. The whole akatsuki should have been used to develop the Konoha 11 besides Team 7 and Team Asuma.

Sasuke as much as I hate him was shown to easily suppress the nine tails chakra in Naruto rendering him ineffective. They should have let that play out more.

Orochimaru is walking free?! How in the fukk is this guy allowed to breathe he should have been sealed away or at the very least permanently killed.

Read it from 5th grade til the end
He killed the 3rd and is allowed to walk free and continue his experiments towards the end of the series....:gucci: That's why I say he's the only true villain of the series. He was kidnapping, experimenting, and killing kids just to extend his life and become immortal...... KIDS :damn:
 

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He killed the 3rd and is allowed to walk free and continue his experiments towards the end of the series....:gucci: That's why I say he's the only true villain of the series. He was kidnapping, experimenting, and killing kids just to extend his life and become immortal...... KIDS :damn:

Exactly plus he destroyed konoha while he killed sarutobi.

Created the new biggest war criminal in sasuke

Was a general fukking creep

3 reasons why he should have got murked on GP
 

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Na..... y’all wilding..... I’m rewatching now..... on ep 262 matter of fact.


This shyt still dope. Now I will acknowledge that the fillers to die dilute it. I remember watching all the fillers early on from day one back to OG Naruto.

But if you watch it without the fillers (like I’m binging it now and found some sites that tell me which are fillers and which aren’t) this shyt is still GREAT like the story is strong as fukk..... arguably out of a lot if not every other anime.... DBZ included.

The storyline of Naruto has always been its strength and when it’s focused, it’s top notch and doesn’t fall off

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Naruto's impact globally is undeniable. nikkas weren't out here imitating devil fruit powers and shyt, everyone was doing hand seals. One Piece is immensely popular in japan, but Naruto was poppin in Japan and the West. Naruto is more iconic that Luffy is.

and Dragonball is the GOAT shonen anyway. In terms of impact and influence it tops both Naruto and OP

One Piece was set up to fail in the US thanks to 4kids and their terrible dub.
I was legit offended the first time someone told me One Piece was better than Naruto and Bleach. After they explained the dub was terrible I decided to try the sub One Piece for myself and that shyt was legit :ohlawd:

The peak of Naruto (chunin exams & rescue Sasuke arc) was better than the peak of One Piece (water 7/enies lobby) but One Piece has stayed at a high level throughout it's run while Naruto crashed and turned into shyt. So overall One Piece is better than Naruto.
 

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I know you’re going off the Japanese audience because
1. DBZ the goat globally, those fukkers just don’t like it anymore
2. HxH or YYH are considered better shonens (not to mention Jojo’s)
3. fukk one piece
1.one piece is global to, yall need to realize everything isnt centered on the US

2. No they are not espescially not overatted ass YYH, that shyt has got to be the most overrated series in all of creative media I have seen:mjlol:

3. Better and wlll go down as the GOAT whether you like it or not: Guiness book record, 20 years of being the face of shonen, 17 years of being #1 seller :umad:
 

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One Piece was set up to fail in the US thanks to 4kids and their terrible dub.
I was legit offended the first time someone told me One Piece was better than Naruto and Bleach. After they explained the dub was terrible I decided to try the sub One Piece for myself and that shyt was legit :ohlawd:

The peak of Naruto (chunin exams & rescue Sasuke arc) was better than the peak of One Piece (water 7/enies lobby) but One Piece has stayed at a high level throughout it's run while Naruto crashed and turned into shyt. So overall One Piece is better than Naruto.
nah plus OP peak is Sabaody - Marineford and that is >>>> Chunin

chunin is almost shyt due to the fact that so many things that contradict the theme and even if you exclude the latter parts dont make sense in the first place.
 

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nah plus OP peak is Sabaody - Marineford and that is >>>> Chunin

chunin is almost shyt due to the fact that so many things that contradict the theme and even if you exclude the latter parts dont make sense in the first place.

I can see why you would prefer those arcs. Rob Lucci is my favorite villain in the series so I might be a bit biased. But the growth Luffy had in enies lobby was :banderas:

The fights in the chunin exam were epic. The use of the side characters were top notch. Nothing else comes close the rest of the series. Especially once Naruto became Goku :scust:
 

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Naruto's impact globally is undeniable. nikkas weren't out here imitating devil fruit powers and shyt, everyone was doing hand seals. One Piece is immensely popular in japan, but Naruto was poppin in Japan and the West. Naruto is more iconic that Luffy is.

and Dragonball is the GOAT shonen anyway. In terms of impact and influence it tops both Naruto and OP
Wrong.

Naruto is only more popular in america. Worldwide OP is more popular and its not even close :umad:
 

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1.one piece is global to, yall need to realize everything isnt centered on the US

2. No they are not espescially not overatted ass YYH, that shyt has got to be the most overrated series in all of creative media I have seen:mjlol:

3. Better and wlll go down as the GOAT whether you like it or not: Guiness book record, 20 years of being the face of shonen, 17 years of being #1 seller :umad:
1. being global and being the most prevalent global wise are two different things. Dragon Ball has more power in South and North America, and Id figure Eastern Europe just cause they share alotta trends with america. thats most of the cultural centers that matter right there, OP is more beloved in Asia and thats it

2. you on some contrarian shyt

3. thats all cool but if DB just decided to saturate the fukk outta the market and not have a linear plot line (e.g going from point A to B instead of just doing some random ass adventures and call it trying to get closer to the treasure), they could've done the same thing in their primes. theres no other series in the history of anime that has made it an intentional point to monologue on as long as possible. I cant explain why those herbs in japan like it, but I can say that the fact that eat it up is why shonen gives them an unlimited greenlight, not quality
 

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The didn't let the demon Madara go crazy enough, fukk Kaguya Madara was the villain the whole time.

Abandoned plotlines and no side character development. The whole akatsuki should have been used to develop the Konoha 11 besides Team 7 and Team Asuma.

Sasuke as much as I hate him was shown to easily suppress the nine tails chakra in Naruto rendering him ineffective. They should have let that play out more.

Orochimaru is walking free?! How in the fukk is this guy allowed to breathe he should have been sealed away or at the very least permanently killed.

Read it from 5th grade til the end
I see where you're coming from, but there wasnt really much else Madara could do in terms of feats. Relative speaking, Madara has some of the craziest feats in the history of any show. The strongest of strongest in Naruto are roughly under moon level in terms of creation/destruction, and that's feats Edo Madara showed before getting the sharinnegan/juubi. He washed the 5 hokage no rinnegan I think, and was leagues better than rinnegan sasuke and presumably bijuu mode naruto. He washed the entire army...other than destroy the planet wasnt shyt else madara could do breh :russ:
for ur 3rd point, they did a good job (I think) of establishing how much stronger Sasuke was than Naruto with the beginning of shippuden. If you're suggesting that they should've fought more between the final battle and then to show the suppression ability then thats one thing, but the suppression ability seems to be directly related towards being much stronger than the jinchurriki. Like I dont think Orochimaru could suppress Naruto anymore after getting to 4th tails and Minato (his chakra rather) couldnt suppress the 9 tails so he had to catch Naruto before he completely lost it. It scales to a power difference I think

Madara is just a god so he could still suppress jinchurrikis at any stage and Obito was shown to be stronger than any of the jinchus too, so thats why he could use this technique effectively.
 

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I see where you're coming from, but there wasnt really much else Madara could do in terms of feats. Relative speaking, Madara has some of the craziest feats in the history of any show. The strongest of strongest in Naruto are roughly under moon level in terms of creation/destruction, and that's feats Edo Madara showed before getting the sharinnegan/juubi. He washed the 5 hokage no rinnegan I think, and was leagues better than rinnegan sasuke and presumably bijuu mode naruto. He washed the entire army...other than destroy the planet wasnt shyt else madara could do breh :russ:
for ur 3rd point, they did a good job (I think) of establishing how much stronger Sasuke was than Naruto with the beginning of shippuden. If you're suggesting that they should've fought more between the final battle and then to show the suppression ability then thats one thing, but the suppression ability seems to be directly related towards being much stronger than the jinchurriki. Like I dont think Orochimaru could suppress Naruto anymore after getting to 4th tails and Minato (his chakra rather) couldnt suppress the 9 tails so he had to catch Naruto before he completely lost it. It scales to a power difference I think

Madara is just a god so he could still suppress jinchurrikis at any stage and Obito was shown to be stronger than any of the jinchus too, so thats why he could use this technique effectively.

Madara should have been the final boss, no Kaguya. That bytch was a complete waste in order to push out Boruto
 
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