Developer Claims 50% Speed Diffrence between XB1/PS4
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random source... dude worked on first pary xbox games he has no reason to lie about anything .. just take your L
It could be true... but it holds no weight when you can't even tell me who made the comment.
I got a friend that works for on a AAA franchise... and let me tell you what he told me about the consoles... Nothing because he does not want to get fired and sued and blackballed. Somehow people think the non-disclosure agreement doesn't apply to random people. Don't let your love for Japan and Sony cloud your logic. It might be true but as of right now he's Wink. If he's not dropping names then the info is bogus. Didn't even name the game.
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Didn't this sum it up, a link from his post...
I been under the impression that the PS4 was more powerful than the xbox one. So far, all I've seen is inferior PS4 exclusives and multiplats. If things turn around one day, and Direct X breaks down, and Tiled Resources no longer work cuz they miscalculated or some shyt? Til that day, I have literally NOTHING to worry about. And extra real talk, if games did look significantly better on PS4? If PSN is still trash, then the PS4 is still trash
No, its the most popular gaming "forum" because where else is there to discuss games on a forum?I thought NeoGAF was Garbage & that forum should be ignored (despite the fact that it's the go-to forum of the gaming industry.)?
We do here, some post on IGN, Gamespot, and Neogaf. Whoopty fukkin doo, this thread is based off a fukkin TWEET
Then "maybe" the guy posted on Neogaf, and after he said there will be no difference. You decided to ignore that
Your dumbass probably would think something like thatI like how the Xbot have resorted to calling PlayStation users "tech experts" as if that were in any way insulting or derogatory.
This further proves my theory that Xbots are intimidated by the average PS user's intelligence.
Which friend did he talk to, and how do you know this guy wasn't anything more than an intern
But then every other developer who is actually working on games does have a reason to lie?random source... dude worked on first pary xbox games he has no reason to lie about anything .. just take your L
If they do, they why does this guy NOT? He don't have a job anymore? He burning bridges now?
As far back as SuperDae said the Xbox got something in it that makes better games.
Then they showed us how they doing it with Tiled Resources, Direct X 11.1 & 2 which isn't PS4 compatible
These same developers have said how making games on Xbox will be easier, or the mere fact that all PS4 games will be ports. Often times not even made by the original developers (The Crew is one for example)
All I'm saying, if a system was 50% stronger. You'd notice the difference. But the games look 50% WORSE than Xbox One games as of today. I just need A SINGLE ONE OF YOU TO EXPLAIN TO ME WHY THAT IS
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1.) Most First party and Multiplats look better on Xbox, I asked you why that is and you failed to even attempt to answer that.Seeing the phrase "tiled resources" in @PS4 posts cracks me up because he only started saying that after Microsoft said the Xbox will use it. I'll wipe my ass with tiled resources nikka, why does titanfall look trash compared to killzone? I'll wait
2.) I didn't mention Tiled resources til Microsoft mentioned it, thats correct. Before then, I didn't know Tiled resources existed. When I heard about it, I read a bunch of articles on it, then I seen 3 youtube videos on it and posted them here. One of them was a 45min video (I was bored) So I know a thing or two about it. Should I have known about it before Micorsoft talked about how xbox would use it? Cuz they never mentioned it for Xbox. They said it would be for Windows 8.1 and Xbox One. Your making it seem like it was this known thing, but I didn't take notice til they said "Xbox as well bruh" which is not true
3.) Titanfall looks fantastic and has won the most awards since it has been shown, while Killzone has won nothing
4.) Nobody gives a shyt bout Killzone, I have checked everyones gamertags and nobody plays KZ2 or 3
Nobody played those games for longer than a moment
So nobody really gives a shyt about Pt.4 but fanboys. You don't even know anything about Killzone from campaign to multiplayer. Just that they hope to get it to 60fps but they failed. Can't wait for that
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Will M$ pay devs to underpower the ps4 games so they look the same? 
Never gets old harping on tiled rendering. shyt was being done back in the 90s on OpenGL, and suddenly it's the cool thing to have because Microsoft is late to the game. 
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Since we are quoting random unnamed sources...
Insider Daily. 80% of developers do not have access to dGPU part yet. Mistercteam explains it all.
September 6th, 22:04
Insider: Ok heads up this is a big clue. the sort of thing we are looking for is. four very specialized gfx cores that can only be accessed via the metal xdriver. Full stereo only available after 25/30 to majority. 80% of developers only have low access.
These cores have access to all the 8 core cpu threads if need be. But two of each cpu threads do have a specialist purpose. They also have a boost ability for a special type of graphics code. Not yet seen on pc.
Mistercteam is correct in his findings but is still wrong in Others. The reason things look strange when you measure the silicon. Your looking for a massive dgpu that is just sitting there w2w or 2.5D.. the design is strange. But I will say nobody has seen the final design aspect. Like i said when I seen the last design a few months back before calibration. The gfx cores and cpus were siting next to the main soc silicon. I say keep digging. Just dont expect any thing less then 1.31tf or 5.31tf
the last thing do not think of this dgpu as one big gfx core it doesn't have to be with 8/10mb of specialized esram attached.. with the guest mmc it should help.. host/guest
Also ms have green light now. They could come early. But it will all make seens 29/30 no matter. And tier4 enabled.
Insider: Like I said the sony 3$ attack dogs are on to this blog.. stay strong. And the sony kind have to all ways attack personal aspects of people don't player there games
This magical 30% of power there console "had" .its a real shame cant be transferred to logic and reason in there brains.
Sony had to sell there head office to fund ps4 development and marketing.
Parasite is correct in the change in gpu. But its not just a 9000 seires its a combination. And its not physically a single chip.
Mistercteam breakdown:
Insider: Ok heads up this is a big clue. the sort of thing we are looking for is. four very specialized gfx cores that can only be accessed via the metal xdriver. Full stereo only available after 25/30 to majority. 80% of developers only have low access.
Mono is only access Main SOC
Stereo is when they can access Both gpuSOC + MainSOC
Stereo will be enabled after 25/30
80% still using mono driver
It is why (highly possibility) that why BF4 & Ghost & Wdogs still have to presented on PC specced X1 devkit
as they waiting stereo driver to be enabled, by the time it is enabled, BF4 ad other demanding games
can use full power of X1. and infact better on some part than the PC version as it was tier4 (later on i will explain)
also inline with parasite, about BF4 info
Insider : These cores have access to all the 8 core cpu threads if need be. But two of each cpu threads do have a specialist purpose. They also have a boost ability for a special type of graphics code. Not yet seen on pc.
Ok so this is a confirm that per CPU on dGPU can have more than 2 thread per core, it is like i said SMT4 + SMT2 (for GFx) totalling 48 operation (my explanation is to simplyfy things, basically he explain cpu on dgpu SOC not cpu on mainSOC)
insider: The gfx cores and cpus were siting next to the main soc silicon
insider:Parasite is correct in the change in gpu. But its not just a 9000 seires its a combination. And its not physically a single chip.
so with this info probably 2.5D , the smaller dies will be 22/20nm remember 22/20nm is 2 times denser than 28nm
even if you see it small it is certainly 2 times the size of it at 28nm , so 175mm^2 on 22nm is about 350mm^2 on 28nm
the dGPU is cosist of 2x smaller wafer (see diagram below)
each smaller wafer in 22nm hold: 4CPU core power ISA + 1152 ALU
so dGPU = 2x4CPU + 2x1152 ALU
the TF = 2304 x 2 x 0.8 = 3.6 TF , plus MainSOC will be 4.8 TF (inline with parasite)
The dGPU will have 9xxx tech and customized, the MainSOC will be 7xxx or 8xxxx
(not a single GPU, dGPU is splitted)
on reality the GPU series wont be from same PC/mobile verision as it will be highly customized
the reality is dGPU is supposed to be Tier4 (GCN 2.0+)
*) remember latest GCN 1.1 are tier 2, with VI is supposed to be tier2 or tier3, tier 3 will have new function probably will be disclosed for DX 11.5, probably Tier4 are new advanced tech that wont be available on PC or tier3 yet, basically dGPU will be new architecture.
insider: the last thing do not think of this dgpu as one big gfx core it doesn't have to be with 8/10mb of specialized esram attached
i agree so dGPU will use eSRAM through guest/host MMU the other 8/10MB is certainly for use on dGPU but from 47MB
(side note :7970 use 12MB SRAM/eSRAM)
*) 22nm SOI is about 2 times denser than 28nm
now for the diagram if we believe it will be 2.5D and remember this is speculation .
http://i.imgur.com/HHFMheJ.jpg
Insider Daily. 80% of developers do not have access to dGPU part yet. Mistercteam explains it all.
September 6th, 22:04
Insider: Ok heads up this is a big clue. the sort of thing we are looking for is. four very specialized gfx cores that can only be accessed via the metal xdriver. Full stereo only available after 25/30 to majority. 80% of developers only have low access.
These cores have access to all the 8 core cpu threads if need be. But two of each cpu threads do have a specialist purpose. They also have a boost ability for a special type of graphics code. Not yet seen on pc.
Mistercteam is correct in his findings but is still wrong in Others. The reason things look strange when you measure the silicon. Your looking for a massive dgpu that is just sitting there w2w or 2.5D.. the design is strange. But I will say nobody has seen the final design aspect. Like i said when I seen the last design a few months back before calibration. The gfx cores and cpus were siting next to the main soc silicon. I say keep digging. Just dont expect any thing less then 1.31tf or 5.31tf
the last thing do not think of this dgpu as one big gfx core it doesn't have to be with 8/10mb of specialized esram attached.. with the guest mmc it should help.. host/guest
Also ms have green light now. They could come early. But it will all make seens 29/30 no matter. And tier4 enabled.
Insider: Like I said the sony 3$ attack dogs are on to this blog.. stay strong. And the sony kind have to all ways attack personal aspects of people don't player there games
This magical 30% of power there console "had" .its a real shame cant be transferred to logic and reason in there brains.
Sony had to sell there head office to fund ps4 development and marketing.
Parasite is correct in the change in gpu. But its not just a 9000 seires its a combination. And its not physically a single chip.
Mistercteam breakdown:
Insider: Ok heads up this is a big clue. the sort of thing we are looking for is. four very specialized gfx cores that can only be accessed via the metal xdriver. Full stereo only available after 25/30 to majority. 80% of developers only have low access.
Mono is only access Main SOC
Stereo is when they can access Both gpuSOC + MainSOC
Stereo will be enabled after 25/30
80% still using mono driver
It is why (highly possibility) that why BF4 & Ghost & Wdogs still have to presented on PC specced X1 devkit
as they waiting stereo driver to be enabled, by the time it is enabled, BF4 ad other demanding games
can use full power of X1. and infact better on some part than the PC version as it was tier4 (later on i will explain)
also inline with parasite, about BF4 info
Insider : These cores have access to all the 8 core cpu threads if need be. But two of each cpu threads do have a specialist purpose. They also have a boost ability for a special type of graphics code. Not yet seen on pc.
Ok so this is a confirm that per CPU on dGPU can have more than 2 thread per core, it is like i said SMT4 + SMT2 (for GFx) totalling 48 operation (my explanation is to simplyfy things, basically he explain cpu on dgpu SOC not cpu on mainSOC)
insider: The gfx cores and cpus were siting next to the main soc silicon
insider:Parasite is correct in the change in gpu. But its not just a 9000 seires its a combination. And its not physically a single chip.
so with this info probably 2.5D , the smaller dies will be 22/20nm remember 22/20nm is 2 times denser than 28nm
even if you see it small it is certainly 2 times the size of it at 28nm , so 175mm^2 on 22nm is about 350mm^2 on 28nm
the dGPU is cosist of 2x smaller wafer (see diagram below)
each smaller wafer in 22nm hold: 4CPU core power ISA + 1152 ALU
so dGPU = 2x4CPU + 2x1152 ALU
the TF = 2304 x 2 x 0.8 = 3.6 TF , plus MainSOC will be 4.8 TF (inline with parasite)
The dGPU will have 9xxx tech and customized, the MainSOC will be 7xxx or 8xxxx
(not a single GPU, dGPU is splitted)
on reality the GPU series wont be from same PC/mobile verision as it will be highly customized
the reality is dGPU is supposed to be Tier4 (GCN 2.0+)
*) remember latest GCN 1.1 are tier 2, with VI is supposed to be tier2 or tier3, tier 3 will have new function probably will be disclosed for DX 11.5, probably Tier4 are new advanced tech that wont be available on PC or tier3 yet, basically dGPU will be new architecture.
insider: the last thing do not think of this dgpu as one big gfx core it doesn't have to be with 8/10mb of specialized esram attached
i agree so dGPU will use eSRAM through guest/host MMU the other 8/10MB is certainly for use on dGPU but from 47MB
(side note :7970 use 12MB SRAM/eSRAM)
*) 22nm SOI is about 2 times denser than 28nm
now for the diagram if we believe it will be 2.5D and remember this is speculation .
http://i.imgur.com/HHFMheJ.jpg
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M$ insist on gimping console gaming with their lackluster specs. this time around, ps4 will probably have a larger fanbase. so maybe devs wont strictly cater to the inferior product.
You're quoting articles from the Inquisitr? Really Breh? Really?