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Article on the true story. Don't read unless you don't mind spoilers.
B+. I can def. see it nominated for an Oscar. And for those who watch it, my pops has a different perspective on that time. Detroit wasn't a poor city. If you really wanted work, you could get it. Auto plants, etc. People were migrating from the South to get to Detroit. After the riots is what caused Detroit to be what it is today. There is a certain scene which makes it seem like some 1 person was looting because they're poor but in his view that wasn't the case. She has a poltical agenda so keep that in mind when you watch this.So was the movie good or bad ?
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Mad they have a white woman telling our story though. I just don't think it would be told properly and would have some type of boogieman black men in it
This movie makes Selma look like a made for TV movie (tarantino voice)
It's Kathryn Bigelow so it will be intense.
Early scores are 100% on RT with 15 reviews so far. 7.9/10 rating.
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MINOR SPOILERS. Read at your own risk. WOn't give a full review because I'm tired but I'll add some more stuff in the coming days. First off, Michael Eric Dyson is annoying. This niguh was talking for like 5 minutes sucking off the director. Calling her a genius, a hero. Then quoting lyrics from 4:44, which half the people didn't get because them niguhs was old in there. I'm talking like 50's and 60's old. Then she came up. Not sure how tall she is but she made Dyson look like a midget. Movie basically start off wit the riots and giving us an intro the police. Now, the police potrayal in here will be controversial. There are some good cops but very few. Some are just straight up racist, while others are like cops are potrayed today. Just so called ignorant in how they police and consequences are deadly.
The movie in some points felt like I was watching New Edition part 2, with that Ralph Trevant niguh singing throughout the film. My favorite actor in here wasn't John Boyega (sp). It actually was Jacob Latimore. I liked him in Slight and I like him in this. He's just consistent to me. Will Pouter (spoiler) was an over the top villian. It works and I can see people hating him from now on because of this film. Movie was basically divided into 3 actsThe movie was almost 2 1/2 long which to me was too long. Some stuff they spent time with could have been cut way short.The riots, the Algier motel and then the trial of the officers
The main thing that hurts this film is the poetic license in telling the story. Even though they warn you in the end that some stuff was recreated for dramatic effect, at times it comes off inauthentic. Especially some of the stuff Black people said. At some parts I was like "Ain't no Black person gonna be this dumb" And even some of the things they said felt like they was putting 2017 into 1967. Overall though, despite it's flaws, I'd still recommending seeing it. It's very rare you see cops portrayed the way they were in this film. Blue Live Matter will be mad. Last gripeI know they wanted it released with the anniversary of the riots but it felt more like a Fall, Oscar bait film. Not a summer film at all. I'm sure all the fans of hers will love the camera work. From the shakey camera to the various close ups.The niguh was potrayed as a hero. But with the real story it's controversial whether he was actually part of the plot or not.
Went to a special screening last night. Great film
Detroit” is ultimately a confused film that has an ugliness reflected in its visual craft and narrative. Bigelow is adept at making the sharp crack of an officer’s gun against a black man’s face feel impactful but doesn’t understand the meaning of the emotional scars left behind or how they echo through American history. “Detroit” is a hollow spectacle, displaying rank racism and countless deaths that has nothing to say about race, the justice system, police brutality, or the city that gives it its title.
The film builds up to an extended sequence based on a real event about a police raid at the Algiers Motel in 1967 Detroit that resulted in the deaths of three young black men and the beatings of nine others, including two white women. There is a shagginess to the narrative as it opens, giving a portrait of the civil unrest and riots that dominated Detroit at the time before placing the variety of characters introduced into a powder keg of a situation at the Algiers Motel. After the blood has dried and scars began to heal for the survivors, the narrative dashes through the investigation, trial, and aftermath of that night. There is an increasingly heavy reliance on newspaper clippings and actual newsreel footage meant to provide meaning and gravitas that only highlights the lack of a thematic center to grant the film any weight.
Bigelow has made a career out of zeroing in on the particular textures of American masculinity. It’s one of the reasons I particularly love her earlier work whether that be the sublime and unapologetically silly “Point Break” or the gloriously intense “Near Dark.” It’s this history that makes the surface level understanding of characters so glaring. The film gestures at the ways black and white men are pinned against each other but doesn’t reckon with the historical lineage this rests in. Consider when the two white women—Julie (Hannah Murray) and Karen (Kaitlyn Dever)—are found hanging out with a black man recently honorably discharged, played by Anthony Mackie, just as the raid on the motel begins. This gets into complex territory about stereotypes about black men, the perceived value of white women, and white men’s fear that the film doesn’t know how to address meaningfully.
While John Boyega has been top-billed for his performance as Melvin Dismukes, a security guard who stumbles into aiding the blatantly racist cops and armed forces that realize the civil rights violations happening but do nothing to stop it, he’s too passive a character to leave much of an impression. In standing by his position as an authority figure and helping these white cops, Melvin becomes complicit in their horror.
Boyega is a charismatic actor, but he gives a flat performance, although it’s the script that’s more of a problem. Mark Boal skirts around the issue of Melvin’s complicity, leaving an interesting story on the table. The standout from the cast proves to be Algee Smith, who grants his character a soulfulness and yearning that grows more heartbreaking as the film continues.
Even his performance is often undercut by directorial choices. While there are plenty of examples of racism in the film, it’s William Poulter’s performance as Philip Krauss, a cop who proves to be a ringleader to the horrors that occur at the Algiers Motel, that’s the most sickening. Krauss is quick to violence, virulently racist, and immensely cunning. He delights in beating the black men who realize he’s abusing his power but can do nothing to stop him even as dead bodies pile up. Bigelow doesn’t flinch from depicting Krauss’ horror, but doesn’t thoroughly indict him or the systems that allow men
like him to survive.
Before the film’s release, a lot of fury was unleashed when it became clear black women wouldn’t be important to this story. Films about black history seldom grant black women the importance they deserve. In “Detroit,” black women are in the margins. They’re dutiful wives placing a gentle hand on the shoulder of their husbands; they’re silent spectators in courtrooms; they’re sweet motel clerks with no real weight in the story. Although an elder black female character voices dialogue that is the closest the film gets to any commentary: “No way would they do this to white men,” she says angrily to a news reporter hungry for a good pull quote. But “Detroit”’s disinterest in black women despite significant time in the film being spent beyond the Algiers Motel incident is the least of its problems. What leaves the film feeling grotesque and even a bit exploitative is its soullessness.
I’ve had a theory for some time that you can determine how well a film will handle its black characters based purely on how it’s shot. Black skin tones vary widely, but here they’re often ashen, sickly, and lacking the complexity they deserve. Cinematographer Barry Ackroyd hues toward a psuedo-documentary style that is perpetually in jittery, confusing motion. Bigelow and Ackroyd excel at creating tension until the Algiers Motel incident takes on the tenor of an extended trip into purgatory. The sweat and blood that drips down the characters faces are granted such texture and focus I could practically smell them wafting from the screen.
Bigelow is immensely skilled at action and watching Philip pick off his victims definitely crackles with energy, but there is something noxious to the thrill of these scenes and the extreme close-ups of bruised black bodies while the characters lack interiority. The soullessness of the film only snapped into focus for me near the very end when one of the survivors, Larry, is singing at church. The church is important to the black community both as an emblem of hope and resistance. But this scene is shot exactly like the most disturbing moments at Algiers Motel. The camera moves much like a boxer. It bobs and weaves staying perpetually in motion. There is an anxious energy and bluntness that feels out of place as Larry sings in front of the black congregation.
When I left the theater, I overheard a black filmgoer say repeatedly, “This is still happening. This is still happening.” I only looked at him briefly, but in his voice there was a weariness and disappointment I felt myself. Given how nothing has really changed in America for black folks, “Detroit” had the potential to be a valuable, even powerful, piece of art that could speak truth to power. But it lacks the authenticity necessary for that to be a reality. Bigelow and Boal don’t shy away from showing how loathsome Philip and his cohorts are. But they don’t go so far to indict them or grant enough context to their actions. There are also brief, disconcerting moments that present some white cops in a great light. Ultimately, I was left wondering who is this film really for? The filmmakers aren’t skilled enough to understand the particulars of blackness or bring the city of Detroit to life as another character. What is the value of depicting such nauseating violence if you have nothing to say about how that violence comes to pass or what it says about a country that has yet to reckon with the racism that continues to fester within its very soul?
Review rips this movie to shreds. Even if you liked the film can yall co-sign or is she just mad at who directed it.
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Movie made me angry and sad at the same time. fukk they killed all them brothers for nothing.
The last one they killed hit the hardest. But he went standing on his own two feet refusing to bow to the racists.
To those who've seen it,
Is it true that Will Poulter makes Tyler James Williams run down the street with groceries in his hand only to shoot him in the back ?