valet
The official Chaplain of the Coli
What's your understanding of why the riots happened?
"Detroit", 2017 Kathryn Bigelow film on the Detroit Riots
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There's never one reason. Systematic oppression, lack of jobs, years of police brutality. To make it seem like the only reason this took place because we just wanted to have illegal parties in peace is irresponsible at best and devious at worst.
The lit match was that after hours spot getting shut down but the gasoline had been pouring for years.
valet
The official Chaplain of the Coli
Ok. As I stated earlier though, I know people who around during that time (including my pops) and the job factor was not ones of the reasons according to them. Black people could get jobs. No college degree needed. People were looting not because they were just poor. For some they saw an opportunity and start stealing. It happened in a certain area but it effected the whole city.
loyola llothta
☭☭☭
This. exploitation at his finest
That happens (opportunists jumping in) in every riot situation, but the root causes still are what they are. What good is having a job if you can't get equal treatment, getting harassed by police and your kids still have to go to terrible schools? At the end of the day, citizens who get fair and equal treatment don't have a reason to riot, loot, etc.
NoChillJones
Banned
This whole gender debate garbage is irritatingly stupid a bunch of black men and women who both date outside the race mad at the other for dating outsode the race...as if black people need ANOTHER divide within out race.
Movie looks absolutley insane..and gives me thr vibe of watching Rosewood....one of those incredibly fukked up tru stories where blacks are slaughtered beat killed by whitey and at the end there is no resolution of punishment....just an deafening understanding of how fukked we are as a race in this country....Im actually good on this one...I already have enough eye poison in todays news showing me that reality...no need to double down for whiteys sake....
Movie looks absolutley insane..and gives me thr vibe of watching Rosewood....one of those incredibly fukked up tru stories where blacks are slaughtered beat killed by whitey and at the end there is no resolution of punishment....just an deafening understanding of how fukked we are as a race in this country....Im actually good on this one...I already have enough eye poison in todays news showing me that reality...no need to double down for whiteys sake....
thatrapsfan
Superstar
Decent movie but I was hoping for more of a focus on the riots in general.
You're really a shyt poster, and not just because I disagree with you either.
You don't even have common sense because if you did it would be obvious why they couldn't use the real names of the officers. The officers were acquitted dummy. It wasn't "proven" in court that they were guilty thanks to the corrupt system that was accurately depicted in the film. Had they used the real names of the officers they would've opened themselves up to all kinds of lawsuits. That's why the disclaimer about the facts not being proven in court was added at the end. Your whole opinion here is off
IA. One of the most important things a movie can do is expose people to an issue, people who would have otherwise kept their heads in the sand. I feel like Detroit accomplished that for police brutality, and I hope it cleans up during awards season because then even more eyeballs will be on this flick.
They addressed that in the film, though.
Not only in the beginning with subtitles explaining that segregation and lack of opportunity would lead to an inevitable revolt, but by using the Carl character to explain and compare to the American Revolution. That whole speech he gave in the hotel room where he schooled the white girls on what it's like to be black in America was essentially him operating as the mouthpiece of the film.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
Did you watch the beginning of the movie?
The whole opening part of the film touched on all of this.
Two minutes of text against two hours of brutality and domination. That's what I don't agree with.
That was actually my favorite part of the movie, but as the old saying goes: actions speak louder than words unfortunately
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
All of that stuff led to the incident.
I am confused, do you actually read or watch stories?
The movie was brutal, but that's because the subject matter is brutal. There's no way to sugarcoat atrocity without insulting the people subjected to it.
Both the words and actions in this movie made it clear that this was not just about a nightclub bust.
We had a character flat-out deliver a monologue stating that this was a rebellion against racial oppression and castigating a white women for asking why "your people" are so violent, when she needed to be asking that question of her own people.
Then soon after that,
he's murdered by a racist cop and has a switchblade planted on him.
Actions and words. And they were both speaking loud and clear.
You are clearly missing the point. the fact that you think 2 minutes of text is sufficient in explaining the cause of a riot while showing black people beat up, killed and dominated for over two hours is...interesting.
How about everyone's real names and pictures being used at the end except for the actual murderers (names never used; photos blurred out)? I guess the few lines of text explaining they never worked active duty again was sufficient for that as well.
Like I previously mentioned, I loved that scene and dialogue. It was truly brilliant. And I agree, there's no way to make this a win for "us", but it could've been done with a lot more context and background in my opinion. If all they wanted to show was the motel, then call it "The Algiers" or some such. People, especially people with no depth, won't get the depths of the dialogue of that one scene that you explained. All they are going to see black people getting murdered, black people begging, black people partying and singing, black people stealing, etc.
I'm sure there's going to be a lot of "well, he shouldn't have shot that starter pistol", "well, why didn't they just tell them what happened?" instead of focusing on the systematic oppression that led to the entire incident in the first place.
I see both sides of this argument; it's a story that needs to be told. However, if police brutality was all they wanted to show, then as someone mentioned, we can just go on YouTube. It was well done, terrifying, and triggering, but I wish it was more depth for the masses.