DENNIS RODMAN: “SCOTTIE PIPPEN WAS BETTER THAN LEBRON JAMES”
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This is literally one of the worst I've ever seen.... KG???
I rate players based on their skill set not accomplishments. I also rate them at their PEAK not over their entire career.
Tracy McGrady at his peak (2003) is as good as any perimeter player to ever play the game. Same with KG when it comes to bigs. I ended up bumping David Robinson ahead of KG. I got KG right outside my top 10 at #11.
it’s ironically a bunch of kobe groupies who never watched dude play overrating him and we know the reason
Pippen was an elite defender. Magic wasn't. Defense is 50% of the game. Just cause most people don't value defense as much as offense doesn't mean I have to. If you look at my list, every player I mention in the Top 10 were all elite defenders at one point or another. Or at the very least had the ability to play elite defense (i.e Shaq).
And no this has nothing to do with Kobe. I rate players based purely on their talent. I don't engage in these situational arguments where I try to diminish or give credit to guys based on accomplishments and who they won with.
madness
Taking my talents to South Beach
Who was the primary playmaker for the Bulls offense and who was locking up the opposing teams best perimeter player when the Bulls went 24-10 without Pippen to start the '98 season? Lemme guess, Dennis Rodman?
That same media named Pippen one of the 50 greatest players of all time before the Bulls 2nd 3-peat. Jordan said in the very first episode of the documentary that he wouldn't have won anything without Pippen. Said it at his Hall of Fame speech, too. Sounds like he got plenty of credit to me.
Why didn't you post Jordan's stats? He didn't shoot that well either during that Finals. Especially when GP was checking him. Sonics were arguably the toughest opponent the Bulls faced in the Finals during that stretch.
One series or a few games don't mean much. Scottie Pippen was unbelievable during that stretch. And he contributed in ways that don't show up on the stat sheet. In particular his defense. And his playmaking. He was the point guard that ran the triangle during that stretch. That contribution cannot be underestimated.
What other way is there to rank players? We could get a person who has never watched an NBA game to rank players based on accomplishments. Without context that shyt is irrelevant. Also accomplishments are influenced by circumstance. When you played, who you played with or against, how long you were able to play are all things that are out of your control that affect your accomplishments. Why should an inferior player get rated above a guy who was actually better than him when it came to actually playing the game just because he was able to be more lucky when it came to stuff outside of their control?
I always rate players based purely on their ability to play the game. I give accomplishments almost no weight. That's why I am comfortable rating guys like T-Mac, KG, and David Robinson in my top 10-11 players all-time. Cause I know there ain't more than 10 guys to ever play the game as well as they did.
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
change your natural position,,...
of pg to play the three.
which brings up the argument of placement behind:
dr j
bird
unique
grant hill
Pippen
jag away two four peats breh.
shirk playing your natural leadership position at pg for sf breh.
be tragic magic 2.o ad. Never be a leader at the pg.
yet think you can call yourself a goat.
orchestrate the worst trade in NBA history breh.
art barr
of pg to play the three.
which brings up the argument of placement behind:
dr j
bird
unique
grant hill
Pippen
jag away two four peats breh.
shirk playing your natural leadership position at pg for sf breh.
be tragic magic 2.o ad. Never be a leader at the pg.
yet think you can call yourself a goat.
orchestrate the worst trade in NBA history breh.
art barr
Yes I'll listen to a Hall of Fame basketball player when it comes to basketball.
Scottie is better than all those guys, which just proves that the 90's wasn't even that good
Actually everything was better in the 90s. Just look at hip-hop today and compare it to the 90s. Basketball is the same way. Some of the guys dominating the league now (like James Harden for example) would be exposed if they played in the 90s. Same way rappers today couldn't see rappers from that era.
1989-2004 is the GOLDEN ERA of the NBA.
The only place that is true is in the media. Among the public its split. Go to Twitter, YouTube, this forum, or any barber shop. Ain't no consensus among the people that LeBron is better. And obviously among NBA players and coaches its Kobe that is perceived as the better player.
Now consider how the media lies to us in every other walk to life. If I was a Bron fan, I wouldn't feel comfortable hanging my hat on the media being the only place where my guy is perceived as the better player.
The media used to give Pippen his props when they played. Mainly cause he put his greatness on display nightly. But after he and Jordan retired they did begin to forget about his greatness just to build up Jordan's legend. Jordan is the GOAT but Pippen is right there with him.
god shamgod
Veteran
the bulls went 5-0 without pippen that season.youre just regurgitating things you read or heard others say. Those are the worst stats I’ve ever seen for a so called superstar who wasn’t even the focus of the other teams defense
you’re overrating tf out of pippen cuz you were in 1st grade back then just like the op
SadimirPutin
Superstar
Negroes in here and get and embarass themselves with bullshyt like this and then want to be taken seriously in sports conversations
But once again.....moderators have zero standards
But once again.....moderators have zero standards