Denis Villeneuve 'Arrival'

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This was a great movie but I have to stress this

Amy Adams is terrible. Any decent lead actress would be looking at an Oscar.

At the end of this movie, once all the pieces were falling in to place, I wanted to feel it along with the writer, director, and editors - I wanted it sooooo fukking bad but she has the same expression talking to her classmates that she does talking to the damned aliens. I've never once seen a movie where I felt that I knew Sandra Bullock was their first choice, and that Bullock would've done better - but since they couldn't afford her they were too scared to take a flier on one of the Mara sisters. Imagine Ex Machina where Alicia Vikander is replaced by Jennifer Aniston. That is how bad Amy Adams let this movie down. Even with that though, this movie was good.

This movie could've been so much better and but I have to point out how bad she is.
 

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This was a great movie but I have to stress this

Amy Adams is terrible. Any decent lead actress would be looking at an Oscar.

At the end of this movie, once all the pieces were falling in to place, I wanted to feel it along with the writer, director, and editors - I wanted it sooooo fukking bad but she has the same expression talking to her classmates that she does talking to the damned aliens. I've never once seen a movie where I felt that I knew Sandra Bullock was their first choice, and that Bullock would've done better - but since they couldn't afford her they were too scared to take a flier on one of the Mara sisters. Imagine Ex Machina where Alicia Vikander is replaced by Jennifer Aniston. That is how bad Amy Adams let this movie down. Even with that though, this movie was good.

This movie could've been so much better and but I have to point out how bad she is.

:martin: fukk outta here hating on Amazing Amy
 

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After loving Jodie Foster in Contact to this day, I can't just sit back and say that Amy was even decent at best.

I'm questioning her in all of her roles now.

Its amazing how good this movie is in spite of her lifelessness :wow:

I don't have any beef with Amy but i get your point. I feel the same with JLaw, i think she's a :trash: actress who sucks in every movie and phones it in. Don't know how she got nominated 4 times for best actress and won one of them for her shytty acting.
 

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Question?!?!?!?"
Question: so did she basically meet her husband a 2nd time? And have the baby all over again?

Because....that's how I perceived it. That shyt was lit.

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Question?!?!?!?"
Question: so did she basically meet her husband a 2nd time? And have the baby all over again?

Because....that's how I perceived it. That shyt was lit.

@TheGodling

No.

Those "flashbacks" were actually flash forwards.... she was seeing her future once she learned the ability to break the dimension of time through the alien language. So now she can be in her past, present and future simultaneously.
 

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I just got back from seeing it, and it had me :banderas:. Already thinking about seeing it again tomorrow.
For those that have seen the film. I went to a shytty theater last night because it was the only one I could get to that late so I think I might have misunderstood an important line of dialogue.

Did the aliens say that in 3,000 years they would need humanities help? Or were they saying that in 3000 years humanity will need this language to help themselves? I'm planning to go see the movie again in Imax but this bit has been a splinter in my mind today. If the aliens need humanities help, anyone have any idea why?
Remember when Hannah asked her mother for a technical term that describes a win-win? "Non-zero sum game." Basically, the squids were sharing their language (weapon, as they called it) because they knew they would need humanity's help 3 millennia from now. But they split up the keys to unlocking the language, and the knowledge that comes with it in such a way to force humanity to unify and solve the problem - and in turn jump-start humanity's socio-technological evolution. This is just my speculation - humanity wouldn't be able to progress at a fast enough rate otherwise to be in a position to help them down the road.
It was how she knew what the Chinese general's wife's dying words because the general while thanking her in the future told her what it was.
It took me til I got in the door back home to realize they created a paradox.
 

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Really enjoyed this movie brehs. Had a classic sci-fi feel to it. Def enjoyed it better than Interstellar
 

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Question?!?!?!?"
Question: so did she basically meet her husband a 2nd time? And have the baby all over again?

Because....that's how I perceived it. That shyt was lit.

@TheGodling

Nah, like @gluvnast said:

Every scene with her daughter was a flash forward. As she started understanding the alien language she started to perceive time simultaneously, thus she became aware of the future. Basically at the end when she embraced Ian she accepted all of the pain in her future (him leaving her, her daughter dying of cancer), but whether she accepted it because it was destined or because she felt the good times were worth it, is kinda left up in the air.
 

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My only gripe is the implication that at our current evolved states we have the ability to break the time dimension wall....I love the movie...but thats a cop out. ...we couldn't understand their language....they are clearly more evolved....it would be like us trying to teach slang to a neanertha......im and what about the language causes you to manipulate physics????....I need tge answers!l
 

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Nah, like @gluvnast said:

Every scene with her daughter was a flash forward. As she started understanding the alien language she started to perceive time simultaneously, thus she became aware of the future. Basically at the end when she embraced Ian she accepted all of the pain in her future (him leaving her, her daughter dying of cancer), but whether she accepted it because it was destined or because she felt the good times were worth it, is kinda left up in the air.
Oh ok. The "I know why my husband left me" line threw me off. And Ian said "I didn't know you were married" ... still a great movie.
 

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Nah, like @gluvnast said:

Every scene with her daughter was a flash forward. As she started understanding the alien language she started to perceive time simultaneously, thus she became aware of the future. Basically at the end when she embraced Ian she accepted all of the pain in her future (him leaving her, her daughter dying of cancer), but whether she accepted it because it was destined or because she felt the good times were worth it, is kinda left up in the air.
Oh ok. The "I know why my husband left me" line threw me off. And Ian said "I didn't know you were married" ... still a great movie.
 

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My only gripe is the implication that at our current evolved states we have the ability to break the time dimension wall....I love the movie...but thats a cop out. ...we couldn't understand their language....they are clearly more evolved....it would be like us trying to teach slang to a neanertha......im and what about the language causes you to manipulate physics????....I need tge answers!l

The logic of the movie relies on the concept that the alien language is non-linear. As is explained early on, humans write from left to right or from right to left, thus sentences have a beginning and an end. The aliens write an entire sentence instantly, thus their structure of communicating is "free from time and space" (see below). By learning to understand the alien language, you therefore subconsciously unlock a way to see time in a non-linear fashion, which is why Adams' character starts to experience past and future simultaneously as she becomes more prevalent in "speaking" the language.

The movie literally describes the aliens' writing as trying to write a sentence using both hands, one starting from the left and the other from the right and have it connect perfectly in the exact middle. You might pull this off once with a lot of practice but the aliens have entire conversations this way, instinctively. It's a form of communication that almost cannot be fathomed.
 

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The logic of the movie relies on the concept that the alien language is non-linear. As is explained early on, humans write from left to right or from right to left, thus sentences have a beginning and an end. The aliens write an entire sentence instantly, thus their structure of communicating is "free from time and space" (see below). By learning to understand the alien language, you therefore subconsciously unlock a way to see time in a non-linear fashion, which is why Adams' character starts to experience past and future simultaneously as she becomes more prevalent in "speaking" the language.

The movie literally describes the aliens' writing as trying to write a sentence using both hands, one starting from the left and the other from the right and have it connect perfectly in the exact middle. You might pull this off once with a lot of practice but the aliens have entire conversations this way, instinctively. It's a form of communication that almost cannot be fathomed.
 
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