seemorecizzy
Superstar
outsiders need to shut da fukk up when it comes to knick business, atleast in thread.they will get exposed quickly for not knowing what they are talking aboutKnicks policing other fans about their pessimism. GTFOH
"Death to the Pessimistic State of Mind" - Nas Voice: NYK '23 Pre-Season Thread
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I think it’s more the Knicks player development is WOAT level(though their drafting is horrible as well). 2 AS drafted in 30 years leads me to think it’s not ALL on the players.
We had it too over DeJonte Murray. When it comes to assets, man, that shyt will split a fanbase till a decision is made either way.Yup. Infighting already
Its where they are drafted too though. How many All Stars are drafted outside the top 5 picks recently?
The Knicks have had only 3 top picks since the 80's. (We going to trade 1 of those for it to become a (1-3) pick like Boston got from Brooklyn (Tatum).
Draft History
They always win just enough games for them to miss out on that franchise player. Considering where the picks were this front office has been solid.
RJ has gotten better every season, IQ and Obi showed some signs last year, Grimes and Duece look solid so far.
what kind of dumb question is this? look at my avi even...there are plenty
klay
dray
steph
not a single in the top 5
giannis
kawhi
jokic
paul george
gobert
yall franchise buying into hype and not having any ability to develop players is why yall always gon be shyt
seemorecizzy
Superstar
looks like we gonna win dis summer league chip
haters are making their hating ass banner memes as we speak
haters are making their hating ass banner memes as we speak
firemanBk
The Manslayer
1999 - Frederic Weis - Never played a single game in the NBA and is best known for getting teabagged by Vince Carter at the Olympics. Ron Artest was picked one pick below and the entire damn crowd wanted them to take Artest and they take a French stiff too shook to come to the NBAIts where they are drafted too though. How many All Stars are drafted outside the top 5 picks recently?
The Knicks have had only 3 top picks since the 80's. (We going to trade 1 of those for it to become a (1-3) pick like Boston got from Brooklyn (Tatum).
Draft History
They always win just enough games for them to miss out on that franchise player. Considering where the picks were this front office has been solid.
RJ has gotten better every season, IQ and Obi showed some signs last year, Grimes and Duece look solid so far.
2003 - Michael Sweetney - Lasted 4 seasons in the NBA. 4 future All Stars were on the board (David West, Josh Howard, Kyle Korver & Mo Williams) but pretty much anybody else would've been better than picking Sweetney in the top 10
2005 - Took Channing Frye 8th & David Lee 30th yet Lee turned out the better player and became a 2x All Star showing there can definitely be All Stars outside of the top few picks. There was another 2 All Stars picked between these 2 in Granger and Bynum too
2006 - Renaldo Balkman - 3 All Stars left on the board (Rondo, Lowry, Millsap). Balkman played 6 years in the NBA and had career averages of 4PPG & 3.5RPG
They also took Mardy Collins over Millsap and Collins only spent 4 years in the league
2007 - Wilson Chandler - A solid player to get in the 20s tbh yet there was a multi time all Star available even in the second round in Marc Gasol
2008 - Danilo Gallinari - Fine player who's still in the league but there were in fact 4 All Stars taken later (Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, DeAndre Jordan & Goran Dragic)
2009 - Jordan Hill - Career bench player and there were 3 All Stars taken after him (DeRozan, Jrue, Teague)
2011 - Iman Shumpert - Loved Shump but there were 2 All Stars taken after him in Jimmy Butler and Isaiah Thomas. Thomas was taken with the final pick of the draft even
2013 - Tim Hardaway Jr - Again not a bad player but 3x DPOY Gobert still on the board
2014 - Cleanthony Early - This was a second round pick. 2x MVP Nikola Jokic still available
2017 - Frank Ntilikina - DONOVAN MITCHELL, Bam Adebayo and Jarrett Allen all still available and they wound up with this bum with no offensive skill whatsoever
2018 - Kevin Knox - Technically no All Stars picked below here YET. It should happen soon though. SGA & Jalen Brunson definitely have All Star potential among others. Knox stinks and might be out of NBA already?
2019 - RJ Barrett - Feel like of any recent Knicks pick fans expect to make All Star this is the favorite. Darius Garland already beat him to it though.
I know it wouldn't have made much sense for some of these players to be taken at the positions the Knicks were in during these drafts my point was more to show there's been plenty of all stars available outside of the first few picks and almost always is.
qnsfinest
Superstar
Asking price for Donovan is getting way to fukkin steep.
I would rather hold onto all of our assets for if/when Zion wants out.
I’m very happy/content going into the season with our current roster (obviously not randle), I seriously think without or without Donovan we’re a 7-10 seed team.
I would rather hold onto all of our assets for if/when Zion wants out.
I’m very happy/content going into the season with our current roster (obviously not randle), I seriously think without or without Donovan we’re a 7-10 seed team.
What if the championship is what’s holding up the trade?looks like we gonna win dis summer league chip
haters are making their hating ass banner memes as we speak
MalaKai
Luv is Luv
See this what I'm talking about...if we are prepared to send Utah 4-6 1st and Obi/Grimes/Q/Cam etc... for D.Mitch. we might as well add Randle and shoot for Durant.
Bobby marks is a fukkin idiot. So basically all the heat have to give up is their unathletic cacs and they get Mitchell.
Wargames
One Of The Last Real Ones To Do It
This is the dumbest shyt I’ve ever read.1999 - Frederic Weis - Never played a single game in the NBA and is best known for getting teabagged by Vince Carter at the Olympics. Ron Artest was picked one pick below and the entire damn crowd wanted them to take Artest and they take a French stiff too shook to come to the NBA
2003 - Michael Sweetney - Lasted 4 seasons in the NBA. 4 future All Stars were on the board (David West, Josh Howard, Kyle Korver & Mo Williams) but pretty much anybody else would've been better than picking Sweetney in the top 10
2005 - Took Channing Frye 8th & David Lee 30th yet Lee turned out the better player and became a 2x All Star showing there can definitely be All Stars outside of the top few picks. There was another 2 All Stars picked between these 2 in Granger and Bynum too
2006 - Renaldo Balkman - 3 All Stars left on the board (Rondo, Lowry, Millsap). Balkman played 6 years in the NBA and had career averages of 4PPG & 3.5RPG
They also took Mardy Collins over Millsap and Collins only spent 4 years in the league
2007 - Wilson Chandler - A solid player to get in the 20s tbh yet there was a multi time all Star available even in the second round in Marc Gasol
2008 - Danilo Gallinari - Fine player who's still in the league but there were in fact 4 All Stars taken later (Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, DeAndre Jordan & Goran Dragic)
2009 - Jordan Hill - Career bench player and there were 3 All Stars taken after him (DeRozan, Jrue, Teague)
2011 - Iman Shumpert - Loved Shump but there were 2 All Stars taken after him in Jimmy Butler and Isaiah Thomas. Thomas was taken with the final pick of the draft even
2013 - Tim Hardaway Jr - Again not a bad player but 3x DPOY Gobert still on the board
2014 - Cleanthony Early - This was a second round pick. 2x MVP Nikola Jokic still available
2017 - Frank Ntilikina - DONOVAN MITCHELL, Bam Adebayo and Jarrett Allen all still available and they wound up with this bum with no offensive skill whatsoever
2018 - Kevin Knox - Technically no All Stars picked below here YET. It should happen soon though. SGA & Jalen Brunson definitely have All Star potential among others. Knox stinks and might be out of NBA already?
2019 - RJ Barrett - Feel like of any recent Knicks pick fans expect to make All Star this is the favorite. Darius Garland already beat him to it though.
I know it wouldn't have made much sense for some of these players to be taken at the positions the Knicks were in during these drafts my point was more to show there's been plenty of all stars available outside of the first few picks and almost always is.
In his defense, teams want the most value they can get from each team. I don’t think he’s saying that those trades are of equal value. Just that, if he does a trade with either team, this is the most he could reasonably get. This is why everyone agrees he’s gonna be a Knick because none of the contenders can reasonably compete with what we can offer. It’s our job not to fold like some bytches and bring the price down.
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1999 - Frederic Weis - Never played a single game in the NBA and is best known for getting teabagged by Vince Carter at the Olympics. Ron Artest was picked one pick below and the entire damn crowd wanted them to take Artest and they take a French stiff too shook to come to the NBA
2003 - Michael Sweetney - Lasted 4 seasons in the NBA. 4 future All Stars were on the board (David West, Josh Howard, Kyle Korver & Mo Williams) but pretty much anybody else would've been better than picking Sweetney in the top 10
2005 - Took Channing Frye 8th & David Lee 30th yet Lee turned out the better player and became a 2x All Star showing there can definitely be All Stars outside of the top few picks. There was another 2 All Stars picked between these 2 in Granger and Bynum too
2006 - Renaldo Balkman - 3 All Stars left on the board (Rondo, Lowry, Millsap). Balkman played 6 years in the NBA and had career averages of 4PPG & 3.5RPG
They also took Mardy Collins over Millsap and Collins only spent 4 years in the league
2007 - Wilson Chandler - A solid player to get in the 20s tbh yet there was a multi time all Star available even in the second round in Marc Gasol
2008 - Danilo Gallinari - Fine player who's still in the league but there were in fact 4 All Stars taken later (Brook Lopez, Roy Hibbert, DeAndre Jordan & Goran Dragic)
2009 - Jordan Hill - Career bench player and there were 3 All Stars taken after him (DeRozan, Jrue, Teague)
2011 - Iman Shumpert - Loved Shump but there were 2 All Stars taken after him in Jimmy Butler and Isaiah Thomas. Thomas was taken with the final pick of the draft even
2013 - Tim Hardaway Jr - Again not a bad player but 3x DPOY Gobert still on the board
2014 - Cleanthony Early - This was a second round pick. 2x MVP Nikola Jokic still available
2017 - Frank Ntilikina - DONOVAN MITCHELL, Bam Adebayo and Jarrett Allen all still available and they wound up with this bum with no offensive skill whatsoever
2018 - Kevin Knox - Technically no All Stars picked below here YET. It should happen soon though. SGA & Jalen Brunson definitely have All Star potential among others. Knox stinks and might be out of NBA already?
2019 - RJ Barrett - Feel like of any recent Knicks pick fans expect to make All Star this is the favorite. Darius Garland already beat him to it though.
I know it wouldn't have made much sense for some of these players to be taken at the positions the Knicks were in during these drafts my point was more to show there's been plenty of all stars available outside of the first few picks and almost always is.
In hindsight yeah, but since this front office has taken over they have made better picks. Even traded back to get guys like Grimes, IQ, McBride.
They finally have a competent front office. Draft assets, and young players. Even in this year's draft they tried to trade up, but Detroit wasn't having it. All those bad picks were because they were trying to win right away.
I hope they don't trade thier future away for 1 player. He is not worth all our best drafted players (only thing they have done right recently), and 6 picks?
There really isn't going to be much available in free agency, so I see why they are being aggressive. 4 first and 2 young players, but they have to take Fournier (or Randle
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