Okay @Yup let's not be a dikk. If I am talking to a women after getting her phone number and the conversations are going nowhere and she just venting about other men in my presence...or just venting when im trying to get to know you then I usually just stop talking to you it's that simple. Women say they want a good man cause it's the PC thing to say. These say women will get with a guy with kids already and just cause he got a house and some charm that makes him better than men...so what do women really value?
Its a valid question. Women are this and that but you think its beneath you to engage one in a simple conversation?
Then you will remain single and always quoting patrice oneal for the rest of your lonely life. Thats facts...people should be treated people not just sexes.