dealing with modern women is unbearable

[Youseenmywork]

They will tell you they have needs. Trust me i tried telling this due on the quick gems...some people just dont listen.

The whole fbuddies instant hookups and switching partners like underwear does nothing for building actual relationships.

Women don't have needs ....?

 

[Youseenmywork]

Stop having recreational sex.

I don't even have casual conversation with women. You not gon talk me to death

 

[Yup]

I don't even have casual conversation with women. You not gon talk me to death

Why not? Sound like you should live in saudi arabia or pakstan its a sausage fest out there where women can be seen escorted by Guardians and not heard

 

[Youseenmywork]

I have my areas I'm lacking in and struggle with females but having a bunch of friends who no problems getting them let me see how they are to an extent. Young females really do have shytty priorities under the age of 25 and I kind of feel like the shyt is programmed into them but after a couple mistakes you gotta know what's up.

But with the direction Western society is going I don't see myself marrying and having kids either. If I have a kid it'll be on some surrogate shyt. The options and p*ssy may or may not come in due time but a woman is gonna have to move mountains to get me to subscribe to marriage in the 21st century.

Edit: I'm sure there's good women out there but they get snatched quick right around the age I am now, by good and no good nikkas.

...more no good nikka trust me I'm 31 and it's just out here. I be seeing nice woman with the lamest of men. Trust me it's a sad thing to witness as well.

 

[wickedsm]

My grandparents have been married for 55 years (they don't make men like my grandfather anymore, sadly) and they don't have a traditional marriage at all; what they do have is shared values, respect for one another, and real love (and not the disney fantasy kind). I honestly think couples can define relationships anyway they want and as long as both parties are in agreement of the terms.

this. I tend to speak of traditional relationship roles because thats the type of marriage that i have and what works for our family.
I never mean that alternate relationship styles wont work.
They key for any relationship style to work is both partners being on the same page
having both realistic expectations and goals.
Both partners working for it together.
Team work. team work. team work.

 

[freetroit]

If as a man you can't provide leadership, support, protection and u don't have some kind of self-sustaining financial situation, why should u have an attractive woman who will clean for you and fukk you any time you wish? What exactly are you bringing to this exchange?

You say you feel you are a valuable asset.... what is valuable about you? You are entitled, your personality seems wack and it sounds like you don't have your shyt together. If anything you are probably a liability. You want a woman to be perfect, and also overlook all your shortcomings.... how is that reasonable?

Ok lets just say that you are right im wack and have shortcomings and is entitled

Im asking the women to please adress what im saying cooking ,cleaning and looking good and fukking are basically things you are born with you didnt earn these gifts

Why do you believe so strongly that those things measure up to what a man is expected to bring to the table?

Everything a woman wants from a man are things he has to earn

Its like you guys are being dishonest about this fact

Its like if i was blessed with 10thousand dollars in my pocket everyday when i wake up

I wouldn't think i was special because of it but you women who are given p*ssy and good looks by birth think you are so great

It amazes me

 

[Youseenmywork]

Why not?

Simple cause end when you step to woman about having a relationship they stay trying to put you in that friendzone. I DONT have ANY female friends I don't want to hear about other nikkas nor do I want a women to every say I took something from her....aka just befriended her to get at her female friends. If I can't get a relationship I'm out ...I'm not finna be your friend so you can talk me to death and take from me something that is important. ..which is my TIME. This what make most men a savage cause every female anit looking for a relationship just like every guy is not looking for a relationship. So what most do is just play the field . Women wanna get time and not have to give up sex. ..Men wanna get sex and not give up time. ..go figure.

P.s. A lot of people's including yours ideas would work in a perfect world. When I'm driving home from work and in peace ...I see a world that as a 31yr old man I'm HAVE to adapt to...simple as that.

 

[Strawberry]

Just find the right jawn

Plus the women you describe aren't exactly strong but ignorant and weren't raise right
It's real easy to manipulate women like that
Majority of the girls you describe did not have a STRONG father figure in their life (notice how I emphasize strong)
So they are looking for a man strong enough to dominate and take charge

My dad passed away when I was 10 and I was raised by a very STRONG single mother and I turned out okay.



I can take care of myself, cook, clean, communicate, share, love, etc.

I'm pretty dominant myself so I need a nice strong man to keep me in check.

Men who think I'm easy to manipulate will be extremely disappointed.

Mi nuh easy!

Simple cause end when you step to woman about having a relationship they stay trying to put you in that friendzone. I DONT have ANY female friends I don't want to hear about other nikkas nor do I want a women to every say I took something from her....aka just befriended her to get at her female friends. If I can't get a relationship I'm out ...I'm not finna be your friend so you can talk me to death and take from me something that is important. ..which is my TIME. This what make most men a savage cause every female anit looking for a relationship just like every guy is not looking for a relationship. So what most do is just play the field . Women wanna get time and not have to give up sex. ..Men wanna get sex and not give up time. ..go figure.

P.s. A lot of people's including yours ideas would work in a perfect world. When I'm driving home from work and in peace ...I see a world that as a 31yr old man I'm HAVE to adapt to...simple as that.

I feel sorry for you too.

Most of my friends are dudes and we have the best of adventures together, plus we both have the advantage of having a dope wingman or wingwoman whenever we go out & party

And what's wrong with being alone?

Nothing, for someone like you

 

[⠝⠕⠏⠑]

reading this thread is like walking on a foreign planet to me
i never approached the prospect of getting married in this manner

it was a combination of finding a woman whose company i enjoy
that would include conversation, humor, etc
all the way through to sex and intimacy

then, what makes her a partner..
can't be reduced to a few words
but if i had to summarize, makes the good days better
and the bad days not so bad
so basically contributing to the shared goal of having a solid life
protecting resouces, avoiding sabotage (intentional or not) activities that create double-work or setbacks
looking out for mutual interests with trust and confidence
it was never a distribution of janky chores for me

now, what i think i hear people saying..
is that they have either (1) never gotten to the first part
meaning they never could enjoy a woman's company (as a human being)
they might have had sex here or there, but they never could relax and absorb the other fun stuff of knowing a woman
obviously if a man has never done that much, he's gonna be lost at the idea of "mutual interest and trust"
how can he trust something he knows nothign about??

or, consider that (2) some men had the fun part
but could never find trust
each time they loaned out their car, it came back with the tank empty
each time they bought toilet paper, it'd seem to disappear and never be replenished when they needed to wipe their ass
each time they listened, they never got a chance to talk for a while
so.. no reciprocity
i mean, who could trust marriage or partnership if that had been their experience??

or, consider that (3a) some men are true lone wolves
they are secret and private by nature
they don't want help burying the bodies
they don't want to talk about the pros/cons of changing jobs
they keep their own council and don't want a partner
and that is what works for them

or conider that (3b) some men think they are kings (literally)
they genuinely believe they are A#1 perfect
and being on a team of any kind only slows down their excellence
(these 3b types are disproportionally present..
because the internet is home for these people)

anyway, this is a long ass way of saying that some people probably shouldn't get married
ifyou have never had any positive interation with a woman whatsoever
(beyond a couple of brief sex interludes)
at some point, yeah.. it's too late to learn how at age 36 (or whatever)

or they have become gunshy about trusting anyone
and decided that risking instability isn't worth an upside they have never been able to experience (a woman who made their bad days better)
i mean, if you spent 5 years taking swimming lessons
yet the last 3 times you tried to swim you nearly drowned
it's okay to decide to stay out of the damned pool

or...they don't WANT to trust anyone because they are true lone wolves or consider themselves to be perfection personified

i mean, that's how i see it
doign a lot of typing on the internet isn't goign to change anything

basically, for a guy to get married, he has to have had postivie interactions with a woman (historically)
and
he has to be willing to trust and build a partnership where you have each other's backs

I love you. Your common sense and pragmatism was a blessing to read tonite. It's that type of balanced thinking this world needs more of. Thank you for this post!

 

[Yup]

Ok lets just say that you are right im wack and have shortcomings and is entitled

Im asking the women to please adress what im saying cooking ,cleaning and looking good and fukking are basically things you are born with you didnt earn these gifts

Why do you believe so strongly that those things measure up to what a man is expected to bring to the table?

Everything a woman wants from a man are things he has to earn

Its like you guys are being dishonest about this fact

Its like if i was blessed with 10thousand dollars in my pocket everyday when i wake up

I wouldn't think i was special because of it but you women who are given p*ssy and good looks by birth think you are so great

It amazes me

You are tellling me in 2015 women are cooking cleaning and fkiin and dont need to cultivate skills outside of that?

 

[Yup]

Simple cause end when you step to woman about having a relationship they stay trying to put you in that friendzone. I DONT have ANY female friends I don't want to hear about other nikkas nor do I want a women to every say I took something from her....aka just befriended her to get at her female friends. If I can't get a relationship I'm out ...I'm not finna be your friend so you can talk me to death and take from me something that is important. ..which is my TIME. This what make most men a savage cause every female anit looking for a relationship just like every guy is not looking for a relationship. So what most do is just play the field . Women wanna get time and not have to give up sex. ..Men wanna get sex and not give up time. ..go figure.

P.s. A lot of people's including yours ideas would work in a perfect world. When I'm driving home from work and in peace ...I see a world that as a 31yr old man I'm HAVE to adapt to...simple as that.

Which one are you? You dont want waste time with women and dont eant to entrrtain a conversation with one so how do you expect to meet one?

 

[PeridotPuss]

Im asking the women to please adress what im saying cooking ,cleaning and looking good and fukking are basically things you are born with you didnt earn these gifts

No. Cooking and cleaning are learned and are equally learned by men and women as children via chores and watching parents.Looking good for the most part is genetics and most women do not "look good" by western or male beauty standards and "fukking" is a instinctive biological activity most humans engage in. What you are describing is what YOU see in adult women who are romantically in your life and nobody has to respond to that to be honest...

Im asking the women to please adress what im saying cooking ,cleaning and looking good and fukking are basically things you are born with you didnt earn these gifts

You see these as "gifts" because you're pressed.

Why do you believe so strongly that those things measure up to what a man is expected to bring to the table?

The same reasons you feel strongly about the things you think a woman is supposed to provide. Selfishness, conditioning and desire.

Everything a woman wants from a man are things he has to earn

Its like you guys are being dishonest about this fact

Its like if i was blessed with 10thousand dollars in my pocket everyday when i wake up

I agree with the bolded.

I wouldn't think i was special because of it but you women who are given p*ssy and good looks by birth think you are so great

It amazes me

This sounds like resentment. Another woman's (or man's, for that matter) confidence level or sense of entitlement doesnt have to faze you. If it does, that's an issue from within....not without. Choose folks who are compatible with you....water seeks its own level...but don't be mad if you end up in the shallow end

 

[CinnaSlim]

I'm finally starting to come to the realization that I'm never getting married or having children... And most men my age are going through the same problem. Women aren't real women anymore... They can't cook , clean, hold a convo, raise a child. A lot of them want attention all day... Taking selfies n shyt

If they leave u..they take your children and half of your money that u worked hard for

These chicks better humble themselves because more men I've notice are becoming content with being single . women spend their 20s being a attention seeking loser, holding out for the "perfect man" that don't exist and then they get all desperate in their late years and become bitter when they end up lonely.

Feminism don't tell u about that. More and more men r giving up on american women...
Feminism ruined women, notice all the happy women in relationships are the ones that don't mine playing their role, they submit and their man protect them. That's how its suppose to work. Not some bytch trying to out earn and dominate her man.

Y'all women better stop being simple and give men that treat u well a shot because prince charming is never coming through the door. Better stop trying to live out ur sex in the city fantasies

They're out there. Go to the bookstore, library, produce section, health food store, gym or park. Places where people are trying to better themselves. Talk to the chick that's not surrounded by a group of chicks. The girl with the natural fresh face, little to no makeup and dresses comfortably.

If she wears glasses that's a plus. Looking sexy isn't a priority for her.

 

[Queen]

They're out there. Go to the bookstore, library, produce section, health food store, gym or park. Places where people are trying to better themselves. Talk to the chick that's not surrounded by a group of chicks. The girl with the natural fresh face, little to no makeup and dresses comfortably.

If she wears glasses that's a plus. Looking sexy isn't a priority for her.

Don't get it twisted.

 

[Yup]

They're out there. Go to the bookstore, library, produce section, health food store, gym or park. Places where people are trying to better themselves. Talk to the chick that's not surrounded by a group of chicks. The girl with the natural fresh face, little to no makeup and dresses comfortably.

If she wears glasses that's a plus. Looking sexy isn't a priority for her.[/QUOTE]

Good luck...dudes chasing vixen and complaining why she is acting like a vixen and want to attribute it to women in general.

Thats the thing they dont want that...they want the sexy chick that every man will salovate over but want to stick her cage.