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Define "shambles". All of their movies coming out of late have been big box office successes. 
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After decades of waiting, Marvel has finally gotten ahold of the X-men again... So in 2021, for the first time EVER....That sounds like a series of porn parodies
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Let me define it...... 2012 Dark Knight Rises makes a billy... Nolan says he's done with the trilogy before it even drops... You know what's coming......Define "shambles". All of their movies coming out of late have been big box office successes.
Since then they have trotted out their number 1 star of DC, Superman... MOS was killed in the press and it doesn't even do 700 million... This is an A list hero right here... AT THE SAME DAMN TIME, Avengers is doin 1.5 BILLION and Ironman 3 just did 1.2 billion... Neither of which contained any A list characters
Ok not shambles.... Then comes BvS... What the fukk but ok, lets rush this... Throw in WW too dammit... 3 A list characters, oscar winners, highly touted writers and directors... This shyt definitely gonna pop... not even 900 million... fukk... I mean how you gonna top all your best characters??
Ok lets go Marvel.... we'll make a little GOTG type shyt... But instead, we'll bring white goddess slut and big willy smith in here... NO fukkING WAY THIS shyt DON'T HIT... Ain't no parks and rec clown topping that..... GOTG = 700 million.... SS = 700 million
Why even keep going... WW = A List = 800.... JL = AAA List = 650.... Aqua is the first movie to ever crack a billy... Then Shazaam = 360... Didn't even do Venom numbers... Bruh BP and Captain Marvel's intros did 1.2 billy a piece... C list characters breh... Thor is doing more than WW, Bats and Supes, Supes alone AND Justice League... Thor 3 breh
Now why do I say shambles... That's respectable right?? Since DKR in 2012, these dudes have hired a batman and superman and got rid of them... Got rid of most the execs... Scrapped the entire thought of a Justice League movie.. Have to restart Batman and Superman as actors, as people in the MCU and as their own standalone movies... Will Smith has said fukk this shyt.. No more SS.. Joker is doing his own movie which may or may not even be apart of the DCU.. And can you even name the next 5 movies on the slate??
Does this look like a well oiled machine here? Or they scrambling? They got 2 characters making money off intros... Nobody knows if movie 2-3-4 gonna hold up to that... They've thrown in the Connect Universe Crown towel.. And here we are talking about how their competition JUST now is releasing and getting their A list characters... fukk you think they bout to do now
Oh yea... They in shambles right now.. You don't rebuild your house because it's in perfect condition
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Saysumthinfunnymike
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tl, dr.
I'm not going way back to Nolan, fukk is wrong with you. Why not go back to Burton while we're at it?
Shazam had a small budget so near $400M actually means it's going to be very profitable.
Wonder Woman did over $800M and that budget was also modest. Very profitable.
Batman vs. Superman did about $875M, again it ended up being very profitable. I like how people say that didn't do enough but Spider-Man and Iron Man did a movie together, the top two Marvel characters and guess what? It did the same exact amount
and then people bring up Captain Marvel as a lame character that did $1.1 billion, it road the coattails of End Game, okay cool.
Aquaman was a joke character for decades and it did well over a billion, In fact it did more than Captain Marvel.
Then people wanna talk about Suicide Squad, again that ended up being one of the more profitable movies of that year.
‘Suicide Squad’ Box Office Profits 2016: DC Launch Tops ‘Doctor Strange’ – Deadline
in regards to Batman vs Superman
The bottom line was that Warner Bros made a net profit of $105.7 million, and a respectable Cash on Cash Return of 1.18 - Deadline
Don't quote me about the movie business, it never works out well for you
I'm not going way back to Nolan, fukk is wrong with you. Why not go back to Burton while we're at it?
Shazam had a small budget so near $400M actually means it's going to be very profitable.
Wonder Woman did over $800M and that budget was also modest. Very profitable.
Batman vs. Superman did about $875M, again it ended up being very profitable. I like how people say that didn't do enough but Spider-Man and Iron Man did a movie together, the top two Marvel characters and guess what? It did the same exact amount
and then people bring up Captain Marvel as a lame character that did $1.1 billion, it road the coattails of End Game, okay cool.
Aquaman was a joke character for decades and it did well over a billion, In fact it did more than Captain Marvel.
Then people wanna talk about Suicide Squad, again that ended up being one of the more profitable movies of that year.
‘Suicide Squad’ Box Office Profits 2016: DC Launch Tops ‘Doctor Strange’ – Deadline
in regards to Batman vs Superman
The bottom line was that Warner Bros made a net profit of $105.7 million, and a respectable Cash on Cash Return of 1.18 - Deadline
Don't quote me about the movie business, it never works out well for you
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So now that I showed you how you are wrong, @The Devil's Advocate maybe you can stop with the stan war bullshyt and return back to this topic
I don't get into the stan shyt around here, it seems like some nerves got touched and now we trying to deflect. No, lets stay on topic...
I don't get into the stan shyt around here, it seems like some nerves got touched and now we trying to deflect. No, lets stay on topic...
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You keep talking profits... Based on comp they are losing bad... Based on you comparing flagship icons to c list bums is losing bad... The fact they only have 3 characters on deck, 1 being a bum who can't crack 450, is losing bad... The fact you mentioning Shazaam budgety when Venom did 900 million off the same shyt is losing bad.... The fact you talking batman and that batman and superman don't even exist in this DCU is losing bad... The fact that you talking about the past, when BvS was less than THREE years ago makes my entire case...tl, dr.
I'm not going way back to Nolan, fukk is wrong with you. Why not go back to Burton while we're at it?
Shazam had a small budget so near $400M actually means it's going to be very profitable.
Wonder Woman did over $800M and that budget was also modest. Very profitable.
Batman vs. Superman did about $875M, again it ended up being very profitable. I like how people say that didn't do enough but Spider-Man and Iron Man did a movie together, the top two Marvel characters and guess what? It did the same exact amount
and then people bring up Captain Marvel as a lame character that did $1.1 billion, it road the coattails of End Game, okay cool.
Aquaman was a joke character for decades and it did well over a billion, In fact it did more than Captain Marvel.
Then people wanna talk about Suicide Squad, again that ended up being one of the more profitable movies of that year.
‘Suicide Squad’ Box Office Profits 2016: DC Launch Tops ‘Doctor Strange’ – Deadline
in regards to Batman vs Superman
The bottom line was that Warner Bros made a net profit of $105.7 million, and a respectable Cash on Cash Return of 1.18 - Deadline
Don't quote me about the movie business, it never works out well for you
2 years removed from their team up movie and all world hero group, only 2 characters are left and the rest of the franchise needs a restart
yes those profits are solving all their problems.. I bet Marvel execs stay up all night trying to figure out how to get like DC... Not the other way around.. Of course not
Hell if Sony pulls off a Spiderman, they'd move into the #2 slot of comic book studios with a better track record than DC as a whole... Shameful
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Yea you winning the same way DC is winning...So now that I showed you how you are wrong, @The Devil's Advocate maybe you can stop with the stan war bullshyt and return back to this topic
I don't get into the stan shyt around here, it seems like some nerves got touched and now we trying to deflect. No, lets stay on topic...
Anyways... I don't stan shyt.. I wish and prayed and hoped to GOD the DCU would work out.. I'm one of the rare few who puts MOS in my top comic movies of all time... I wish every Marvel movie would bring DC's fighting and tone instead of that campy bullshyt
BUT.... me and homie was talking about TRANSFORMERS... I used DC as an example and here you come, asking for answers.. So I answered. As I said many times before.. Only thing I care about is ALL THE UNIVERSES BEING COMPLETE.. I want all DC with DC and all Marvel with Marvel... And cohesion through all movies.... And this Sony shyt is fukking it up so fukk them.. It's not about Marvel. It's about ME
Both sides pulling out anything for fan support
No they're not.
Sony Pictures is on the market, all Disney has to do if the Sony people working on Spider-man don't want to keep their jobs when it's sold is sit on their hands til either Apple or Viacom decides to cash out, Spidey reverts back to Marvel anyway.
Meaning they got the short term leverage but are really playing a losing game and Disney knows that.
I'm sure they want a deal done before DC23 but Phase 4 is enough time to let that situation breathe if you absolutely have to.
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Is profits something that doesn't make sense to you? What other metric would you like to use? lol..I didn't "ask for answers" .... I already knew the "answers", I asked you to explain where this dumb logic originated from
Everything I posted was facts.
See, you lost the Spider-Man argument so now you tried a different argument and you lost on that too. At least go back and try Spider-Man again, at least that's what the thread is about
If you didn't "stan these studios..." then why you in here stanning like you own stock in these corporations. That's what I'll never understand about the handful of posters in here especially the ones sucking off Disney. You aren't a Disney executive. They ain't payin you shyt... stop the stannery and come back to the real world.
Too much shyt in here to quote so fukk it. Neither studio needs the other now but Sony has more to lose due to having to do major rewriting. Spidey gonna make money regardless though.
I'm not counting money but quality. IMO
-Spidey 1 ( nostalgia aside) is basic, nothing special, just a good origin movie. Robo goblin was disappointing.
-Spidey 2 was a superior movie. All around solid.
-Spidey 3 was fukking terrible.
-ASM 1 was decent.
-ASM 2 was mediocre.
-Homecoming was good. Was like a breath of fresh air.
I'm not counting money but quality. IMO
-Spidey 1 ( nostalgia aside) is basic, nothing special, just a good origin movie. Robo goblin was disappointing.
-Spidey 2 was a superior movie. All around solid.
-Spidey 3 was fukking terrible.
-ASM 1 was decent.
-ASM 2 was mediocre.
-Homecoming was good. Was like a breath of fresh air.
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Ok you are obviously dumb.... Lets try againIs profits something that doesn't make sense to you? What other metric would you like to use? lol..I didn't "ask for answers" .... I already knew the "answers", I asked you to explain where this dumb logic originated from
Everything I posted was facts.
See, you lost the Spider-Man argument so now you tried a different argument and you lost on that too. At least go back and try Spider-Man again, at least that's what the thread is about
If you didn't "stan these studios..." then why you in here stanning like you own stock in these corporations. That's what I'll never understand about the handful of posters in here especially the ones sucking off Disney. You aren't a Disney executive. They ain't payin you shyt... stop the stannery and come back to the real world.
DC has been making profits the entire time correct? YES
DC has scrapped the majority of their DCU correct? YES
Does this translate into profits being the only thing they care about? Why not keep trotting out the same shyt since it's profitable? Why fix things that aren't broke?
The execs at DC agree with me. They ain't doing so well. They surely do not agree that keeping the status quo was smart... In other words, that profit margin wasn't good enough.. So yea.. I understand and so do they...
Restart the shyt over.. What other proof is needed that they wasn't feeling it?
I don't even know what point you made with Spidey.. That's Sony.. And since he won't be in Marvel movies, then I'm upset I WON'T GET TO SEE MOVIES WITH MARVEL AND SPIDEY... fukk that gotta do with my stock? Or stan? I love comic books.. I love comic book movies.. I love comic book movies that mirror the comic books.. Why would I willingly want that split up
fukk is you talking about breh?
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