DC homeowner shoots, kills 13 year old Karon Blake after claiming he was breaking into cars

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This is a pedo adjacent argument.

Children are children until they legally become adults.
Not even close, there’s 0 mention of sex in this story/situation. You’re conflating pedophilia with juvenile crime in a car jacking case.

Just so we’re clear and my future statements aren’t taken out of context, I do support defending your possessions within your rights. I do believe a criminal is a criminal once they knowingly commit a felony. I do not support pedophilia.
 

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It's not about having things figured by 13. It's about know the difference between right and wrong in which 13 year olds are capable of.


In many cultures traditionally you go through your rite of passage to manhood around 13 and they put those expectations on you... that you have to carry yourself with maturity and understanding. you don't have to have things figured out by 13 just some self discipline. that is the foundation for many things. That's why Judaism has bar mitzvah and pretty much every culture/ethnicity used to have this around the same age period (12-14) for the same reasons. it was the time to introduce young adults as they looked at them back then not teenages to the roles and expectations they would have as young men. we lost many traditions and methods of preservation and guidance. We lost so much culture. Look upon the world and see those who thrive thrive from within structure. Everything extends outward from a healthy family. Proper culture is self preservation.

I think children are capable of knowing the difference and not falling into the wrong behaviors with structure and guidance. The modern world has made a habit of delaying the mental maturity of kids thinking we are protecting them but we are spoiling them. We give young dudes this idea that they got time to fukk up before they grow up but they really don't. I'd say the teenage years are the most high risk years for a young male. the habits kids form in this period many times come to define the path of the rest of their existence. but a lot of kids who start fukking up early think they got the game beat as long as they don't have an adult record. but habits define people and they won't break the mold they create at that age so easily.
 
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He's fukking 13 good lord. I bet a bunch of y'all call yourselves Christians too and wonder I why bad mouth you pieces of shyt on here. I;m sure your sky daddy would be very proud of the thoughts some of you are sharing. You'll turn around and go to church and say completely different shyt tho, then go home and act like animals calling the killing of a kid justified because he made some bad decisions.

And don't even get me started on gun culture in this country. Just blood thirsty psychopaths who don't even realize 2nd amendment laws have never ever been for black people
13 year old white boys have brought guns to school and committed massacres. And most of them weren’t poor. So no more excuses.

Money doesn’t make you value life.
 

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That's the huge problem in our community. We have a whole layer who is coddling criminal activity and devious mindsets. Folks can commit all the crimes they want and you better not say anything about it because you are a snitch, rat, tattle-tell, but then if you bust back when they are stealing your property, then you are wrong because they could have been reformed or some such nonsense. In other words, just let the criminals do whatever they want to do and you got to pay for their actions.

Reality is most people can't afford to get another car if you roll off and steal their ride. They can't get to work and they don't have the money to get another one. Now they are facing extreme economic hardship because we need to baby criminals. Nardo Wick was on the Big Facts podcast talking about why get a job when you can rob and all the grown hosts were laughing and sympathizing with that nonsense instead of telling him that prison comes with that or death.

Somebody better start telling these young boys and men the truth. You break into peoples' houses and cars, those might be your last minutes breathing. All of that stealing, gangbanging and other street related foolishness isn't worth it. Ain't nothing wrong with working at Mcdonalds until you can get a better job and really get what you want. Nobody is going to care about your age or background at 4 in the morning if you are breaking into their property.

A lot of these posters are well read and got book knowledge but selfish as fck and lack people skills.. Too many times i've seen people cars simply break down and cant afford to get it fixed. They end up losing their jobs.. They speak about "poverty" so much, but don't understand that its a long climb trying to get out of that shyt. And a stolen car will put people in a jam. Then they get smart/dumb and say "well they got insurance" not even knowing that a lot of people can only afford the state minimum which has no full coverage. I can go on and on.. I see why some have the problems the have because they're narrow minded.
 

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Oh well. Shouldn’t have been out stealing shyt. Way too many black folks who are actual victims that we can spend our energy on for me to be worried about this dumbass. You know how broke and hurt people are in this country? An unexpected broken window can put someone in a financial hole that is hard to recover from. Getting a car jacked can ruin someone’s life. fukking with peoples mode of transportation has always been a big deal. Back in the day they would straight up execute horse thieves. You’re literally ruining someone’s livelihood.

All in all, people are tired of being victims to lawless a$$holes and criminals. Oh well
 

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Time for black folks to talk about the issues, and I mean a hard up talking to. Being honest.

I'll start with the 1st question, was he staying with his dad?

I truly believe in my heart, if black dads are in the house and around their kids, especially sons, a lot of this stuff wouldn't be happening.

I support black women/moms, but that black dad being around 99-100% is a important key, especially with a boy at his age.
 

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Not even close, there’s 0 mention of sex in this story/situation. You’re conflating pedophilia with juvenile crime in a car jacking case.

Just so we’re clear and my future statements aren’t taken out of context, I do support defending your possessions within your rights. I do believe a criminal is a criminal once they knowingly commit a felony. I do not support pedophilia.
Let’s not be overly simple.

I’m conflating someone not being able to make adult decisions with someone not being able to make adult decisions. How you feel about them doesn’t change their status as children.

At no point does this change because the child committed a crime, looked or acted a certain way.

‘You are not a child once you commit a crime, period.’
 
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That dude won't answer the question.
I literally grew up in a place call crime hills you fukking moron what the fukk do you think. Hell I moved back here this year because it was close to my job. It doesn't matter where you from you either have empathy for people or you don't. You've either educated yourself or you haven't. None of you actually put in the work to try and figure out what's actual causing these issues. You clamor for the death of children because it's easier than trying to figure out what's at the heart of the issues.

Then you turn around and just say dumb shyt without any backing and claim you're correct.

Y'all are straight up human garbage. Anyone who justifies killing kids over making a mistake that was non-violent is a piece of shyt. You and him and included.
 

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Saying anyone deserves to be killed for committing non violent crime is lunacy.
Lose all that emotion. No one saying he "deserves" to get killed. Moreso when you play stupid games you win stupid prizes. Teach your kids not to fukk with people's shyt. You cannot control how someone will react
 

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A lot of these posters are well read and got book knowledge but selfish as fck and lack people skills.. Too many times i've seen people cars simply break down and cant afford to get it fixed. They end up losing their jobs.. They speak about "poverty" so much, but don't understand that its a long climb trying to get out of that shyt. And a stolen car will put people in a jam. Then they get smart/dumb and say "well they got insurance" not even knowing that a lot of people can only afford the state minimum which has no full coverage. I can go on and on.. I see why some have the problems the have because they're narrow minded.

Exactly. A lot of people simply can't afford the cost of what happens if their car gets stolen. They will find it extremely hard to get to work, especially if they have to waste extra money ubering or taking a taxi every day. It will be hard to go to the grocery store, pick up kids, or handle any emergencies. It could result in a job loss because someone doesn't have all the extra money to constantly take ubers and taxis to work and they don't know anyone to pick them up and drop them off.

Stealing someone's ride isn't some trivial thing. It has huge economic repercussions for many people. On top of that, if you are in a neighborhood that has a reputation for being dangerous, the odds are that you can't call the cops because then you will be known as a tattle tell or rat and people might end up shooting at your house or harassing you for 'working with them folks'. So what are people to do? Just let people steal their property and suffer? The reality is that if there are no repercussions, there are no lessons learned. They literally found another stolen car not that far away, which they believed that boy had stolen previously, meaning this is a pattern of behavior and this boy saw nothing wrong with what he was doing.

These young boys grow up in environments where there is little authority and they are in fact taught to buck against authority until they get in prison or come across some crazy cop. When these teens go up in prison and try to take something from somebody else's cell, what's going to happen? They are going to face the same fate as in the street, which is getting killed or severely injured. Sooner or later somebody is going to deliver the lesson that taking somebody else's property isn't the move and repercussions come with that.

It's sad that a 13 year old boy got killed, but the reality is that the failure occurred long before this situation. A 13 year old boy has no business roaming the streets at night or in the early morning or being in anyone's property. People will not have any mercy, especially during those hours. This isn't this boy's first time stealing a car either, so whoever taught him this knowledge needs to be checked as well.
 
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