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There's only two same actors and they aren't tied to anything outside of their own movies..
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There's only two same actors and they aren't tied to anything outside of their own movies..
By that metric I guess that means the MCU is now and forever The Favreuverse.
The Snyderverse is dead. The going home service was the Snyder Cut so its wild how people who hated the Snyderverse are clinging to it just as hard as the Snyder fanboys do.
What does Favreau making Iron Man have to do with anything? Iron Man was directed by Favreau and was the starting off point for the MCU leading to where we are today. It has stayed in the same universe.
The Snyderverse started with MOS, directed by Snyder. It starred Henry Cavill. which lead into BVS, starring Cavill, Gadot, Miller, Affleck. This lead into JL, starring the same actors, the SS spinoff with Affleck Batman, set in the same universe, Aquaman starring the same actor, set in the same universe, Shazam featuring a "cameo" from Cavill's Superman, same universe on up to Peacemaker featuring a cameo from the same actors playing Aquaman and Flash from the same universe.
The upcoming Flash, Black Adam, Aquaman 2, WW3, are all descendants of the Snyder universe, as they have the same actors who originated from it and will reference events from Snyder's movies. As I said, the only thing that would change this is scrapping it and starting over from scratch, although it's such a mess that it makes it exceedingly difficult.
I'm not really sure what is hard to understand here.
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The same actors is the only thing from the Snyder films that is left. Nobody's referencing anything from Snyder's movies.
What was referenced from Snyder's movies in Aquaman, or the Wonder Woman sequel, Shazam, The Suicide Squad or Harley Quinn's movie?
The Snyderverse is dead because the Snyderverse was the DCEU helmed by Zack Snyder.
I don't know what is so hard about that for you to understand.
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Unless it's the end of an established, well received trilogy or big crossover film - DC movies going forward shouldn't be more than 100 minutes.
I said it, I don't care if it's unpopular. 100 minutes. That's my caveat for any overhaul.
I said it, I don't care if it's unpopular. 100 minutes. That's my caveat for any overhaul.
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Ok, you've decided that you want to believe your own reality. Wish you had said that sooner.
If Disney said tomorrow, OK we're shutting down the MCU, and moving in another direction but yet did:
Shang Chi 2 starring Simu Liu, Awkwafina etc but no not MCU!
Eternals 2 starring the Eternals cast but not MCU!
Spider-Man 4 starring Tom Holland, Zendaya but not MCU!
etc
What do you think the average person would think? You think there may be some confusion on what was going on, and that most people would just assume it is MCU related? Would it not be a mess for Marvel as far as what the continuity is?
WW2,3 - starring Gal Gadot, but according to you not Snyderverse. Ok then, where does her origin come from in this "not Snyderverse" world? Does she have a completely new origin now? Was she never in Justice League or BVS?
Aquaman 2 starring Jasom Momoa, but according to you not Snyderverse. It is a sequel to Aquaman which most definitely was using the Snyderverse Aquaman. So does the Aquaman in Aquaman 2 have a different history than that? He was never in Justice League? Or BVS?
Shazam 2 starring Zach Levi, sequel to Shazam which:
After some initial confusion, DC Comics confirms that 'Shazam' will take place in the same universe as 'Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice.'
DC Confirms: 'Shazam' IS Part of 'Justice League' Movie Universe
Does this mean Shazam 2 no longer takes place in the same universe as Shazam 1? So now he has a different origin story?
Etc. etc. I'm not sure if you just want to wave your hand and pretend that the Snyderverse just went away, or whatever but it's not that simple. There is a mess of continuity left over that will continue to be an issue unless they do a complete reboot.
I'm not sure what's hard to understand about that.
It's still a mess because people will still associate this cast with the Snyderverse, and there would be no opportunity to have various characters interact that have a shared history. I don't know what they're doing with the Flash movie, but maybe that's their plan to create a new shared universe.
DC just dropped the ball from the start and the result is no easy way to fix, as far as a shared universe is concerned.
They certainly can do stand alone movies in their own worlds like The Batman, Joker, etc.
It's not about Snyder or Feige. Most people going to Marvel movies know that they've been interconnected since 2008 with Iron Man.
Most people look at these Snyder remnant DC characters with the same actors as part of the same universe no matter how much some people want to wash that away. A lot of people actually care about continuity. And more casual fans are confused if you tell them that no no Aquaman isn't from that same world as Justice League even though it's the same actor and nothing has been established on film to suggest it's some new reality.
Saysumthinfunnymike
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By people you mean people who have agendas... People who wanna see Aquaman sequel want to see what James Wan got for them.. they not sitting there going....
"but how does this fit in the bigger picture
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By people you mean people who have agendas... People who wanna see Aquaman sequel want to see what James Wan got for them.. they not sitting there going....
"but how does this fit in the bigger picture
DC set up a hasty shared universe, that was rushed, with the wrong person for the job in order to keep up with the success of Marvel - without putting in the time and planning.
As a result they still have a mess of a continuity that is confusing to the average movie goer, and unsatisfactory to a large amount of fans of the genre that want to actually see a shared universe that is coherent.
The only way out of it is a hard reboot after this next round of movies, with the same Snyder cast, concludes. They can also continue to make stand alone movies, ala Joker, The Batman.
That's the way DC fixes this mess. Otherwise it will stay this weird in between universe that fails to reach the heights it could with a vision that has people involved who know what they're doing.