DC Entertainment Getting Overhauled

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

1. Joker is a standalone movie. Has nothing to do with the conversation on the DCEU, which is what people are discussing as far as where WB has screwed up so much that they are running away from it now.

2. No one is suggesting, or thinks that WB/DC would listen to anyone on some random message board about what to do with their movies. They are simply expressing their opinions on theses films, as is the PURPOSE of, you know, the FILM Room. Talk about out of touch. Who the hell thinks WB is scouring TheColi for tips on what direction they should go in?


3. Yes, it is crazy that some people are upset that people point out that the DCEU has been an overall failure, despite some exceptions here and there like Aquaman and WW. Hence why BVS, JL underperformed when they should have done Avengers numbers, and hence why DC wants to overhaul its film strategy. You don't do that when you're pleased with the results, like why Disney isn't looking to overahul the MCU. I mean, you got people pointing out that BVS made 800 mil as if it's somehow impressive that the first movie with Batman and Superman together, with WW and cameos from other JL members did less than a billy.

Thats's how some of these posters are. For some reason upset that people come in with a difference of opinion on these things. Embarrassing.

Oh, and since smilies I guess enhance a point

1. Yes... a standalone movie... They are ALL standalone movies now. That's what you don't get.. That has nothing to do with The Batman. They have nothing to do with James Gunn The Suicide Squad. There's no arc where Aquaman is gonna go be in The Batman for no reason etc... That's the whole point. They aren't doing anything connected.

2. You suggested it.. You are trying to tell billionaires they don't understand how to produce revenue. Don't you see how embarrassing of a read that is?

3. Justice League underperformed because the old execs who are no longer there.. hired Joss Whedon to turn the project into some Marvel-Lite shyt. The Snyder Cut of the movie was MUCH better received and if you have a problem with that.. go view all the metrics that were already posted. The execs ruined it once Snyder left the project after his daughter died.

Nobody is upset at a difference of opinion. You were wrong... that's all it is. it's not personal. Sometimes people are wrong. You've been arguing against facts for several pages now.

 

[wire28]

I’m with you breh
It’s annoying they still can’t get shyt done
DC is like those teams who have great games in the season randomly but in the end they wet the bed like a bunch of goofs

DC is actually like the lakers this year. I can’t think of a more perfect example.

Except they look like the lakers year after year after year

 

[MenacingMonk]

I would start with a
Plastic man movie
Zatana film
Mister terrific the real one not that wussy from the CW
Power girl film
Booster gold film

Make a JSA movie out of that where they fight against granny goodness that still has big Barda and mr. Miracle on the team and then they can branch off to different parts of the dcu

Ain't none of those films bringing in money without the proper direction AND introduction. These are B/C characters that need to be built. Put one or 2 in a main players movie and work from there.

 

[humminbird]

Ain't none of those films bringing in money without the proper direction AND introduction. These are B/C characters that need to be built. Put one or 2 in a main players movie and work from there.

No these could work
The budget for these is smaller compared to a Batman Superman or Wonder Woman film
Finding the right person is possible too since synder isn’t in control
It’s just a matter of taking their time with the project

 

[MenacingMonk]

No these could work
The budget for these is smaller compared to a Batman Superman or Wonder Woman film
Finding the right person is possible too since synder isn’t in control
It’s just a matter of taking their time with the project

I never said they wouldn’t work and It’s not about budget. It’s about bringing familiarity to the average audience. The characters need to stand out and the plots should be interesting enough.

But the fact is you can’t start a universe with these characters. They need to be thrown in slowly and not forced.

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

Ain't none of those films bringing in money without the proper direction AND introduction. These are B/C characters that need to be built. Put one or 2 in a main players movie and work from there.

Peacemaker was one of the most watched shows this year.

People can't help but "forget" about the success stories they've had over the last 3-4 years... Coli wanna discuss ten years ago. Same as The Booth. That's why i dropped the comparison

 

[MenacingMonk]

Peacemaker was one of the most watched shows this year.

People can't help but "forget" about the success stories they've had over the last 3-4 years... Coli wanna discuss ten years ago. Same as The Booth. That's why i dropped the comparison

And it’s owed to Cena, Gunn, and writer(s) making the character what it is. Peacemaker show doesn’t happen if he wasn’t in SS.

 

[Jello Biafra]

*sigh*

Ok, you've decided that you want to believe your own reality. Wish you had said that sooner.

If Disney said tomorrow, OK we're shutting down the MCU, and moving in another direction but yet did:

Shang Chi 2 starring Simu Liu, Awkwafina etc but no not MCU!
Eternals 2 starring the Eternals cast but not MCU!
Spider-Man 4 starring Tom Holland, Zendaya but not MCU!

etc

What do you think the average person would think? You think there may be some confusion on what was going on, and that most people would just assume it is MCU related? Would it not be a mess for Marvel as far as what the continuity is?

WW2,3 - starring Gal Gadot, but according to you not Snyderverse. Ok then, where does her origin come from in this "not Snyderverse" world? Does she have a completely new origin now? Was she never in Justice League or BVS?
Aquaman 2 starring Jasom Momoa, but according to you not Snyderverse. It is a sequel to Aquaman which most definitely was using the Snyderverse Aquaman. So does the Aquaman in Aquaman 2 have a different history than that? He was never in Justice League? Or BVS?
Shazam 2 starring Zach Levi, sequel to Shazam which:
After some initial confusion, DC Comics confirms that 'Shazam' will take place in the same universe as 'Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice.'
DC Confirms: 'Shazam' IS Part of 'Justice League' Movie Universe

Does this mean Shazam 2 no longer takes place in the same universe as Shazam 1? So now he has a different origin story?

Etc. etc. I'm not sure if you just want to wave your hand and pretend that the Snyderverse just went away, or whatever but it's not that simple. There is a mess of continuity left over that will continue to be an issue unless they do a complete reboot.

I'm not sure what's hard to understand about that.

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I explained it to you very simply and you just want to hold onto this Snyder thing despite him not having anything to do with DCEU's films in years.
The films you mention have tangential connections to Snyder's movies.
Nothing about Shazam has jack shyt to do with Snyder's films so Shazam 2 doesn't need a new origin story because it isn't a Snyderverse movie.
You seem to think the DCEU = Snyderverse just because you are pathologically pedantic about the fact that Snyder was the director at the start of the DCEU.
But it's a free country so do you, bruh.

 

[Jello Biafra]

I just went back a read through he last couple of pages of this thread and it is so obvious that some folk still haven't bothered to read the original article this thread is based on.

 

[NinoBrown]

I want the Synderverse back...MoS with Brainiac and a Darkseid showdown in JL2...

 

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