Shout out to @Samson . Survived the worlds most legendary set up.Men and women pretend women wouldn't do this when women have been setting dudes up since the time of Asuar and new.
Shout out to @Samson . Survived the worlds most legendary set up.Men and women pretend women wouldn't do this when women have been setting dudes up since the time of Asuar and new.
You guys will like dating more if you pick venues / activities that you enjoy and can afford AS WELL AS not be pressed about getting laid. People can pick up on desperation and overcompensation.
This is what it is. OP either been dating women he don't like or women who don't like him and using him as a placeholder so she can get a free meal and attention.Sounds like you dating women who either
1. You dont like
2. Dont like you
If yall were both feeling each other, she would take u on dates too, yall would chill at the crib as well, and you would generally enjoy each others company.
Dates aint the problem breh... you wasting your time with women u dont actually like
You guys will like dating more if you pick venues / activities that you enjoy and can afford AS WELL AS not be pressed about getting laid. People can pick up on desperation and overcompensation.
Real shyt I got 3 numbers just because they said I seemed cool and not thirstyYou guys will like dating more if you pick venues / activities that you enjoy and can afford AS WELL AS not be pressed about getting laid. People can pick up on desperation and overcompensation.
Beautiful read.Since you said you genuinely try to understand, here is the deal.
The point of contact for men and women is sex. Men are the primary aggressors for sex. Women want sex too, but it works different for them
Sex for men is a low risk / high reward activity.
Sex for women however is a moderate risk / moderate reward activity.
Women have to worry about 4 main things that men don't.
1. Their Pleasure (It's not guaranteed for women, almost always guaranteed for men)
2. Their Social Status (She has sex with a lot of men, she's a hoe. He has sex with a lot of women, he's the man)
3. Their Safety (Women get raped and assaulted by men, men almost never get raped and assaulted by women)
5. Pregnancy (Mama's baby, Papa's maybe... and even then women don't want to go through the process of abortions, hormonal affects from birth control, etc)
So women are going to naturally look for an exchange to mitigate their risks and the prospect of a lesser reward.
Different women have different exchange rates... so it varies. The most common exchange is a committed relationship with a man of means; credentials, resources and connection.
Women want/need dates to process whether they can make the exchange. Dates give them time to cover their four main concerns.
If you can spend money and plan a nice date, carry a good conversation and prepare for a meetup, it shows her you actually... oh I dunno... care about the girl and don't look at her as just a body to fukk.
Telling a girl to just come over says... "I want you to take on more risk than me, and accept the prospect of a lesser reward for this activity... in exchange for virtually nothing." This is why women try to avoid doing that.
I agree with just about everything you said here. But I can understand not meeting up at one or the others place on the first date, unless you really really feel comfortable with one another. Because it's much riskier for the woman, and sometimes even for the man.Not on some incel shyt. But, at this point in my life taking a girl out on a date is so unfulfilling. I'd much rather just meet up my place or her place. The whole going to get something to eat shyt, movie shyt, it's played, and it doesn't really make sense to do it from the guys perspective.
Like, you (the woman) need / want for us to go out somewhere to get to know us and even though you (the woman) having that necessity or desire it's expected the man pays. It makes zero sense.
If it comes down to a comfortability thing then you shouldn't even be down to dating the guy in the first place if you're just that scared of a random man. You should be dating men that you would like to be fukked by anyways.
I say I'm done with it cuz it's just such a needless thing, a drain on money and time. Carrying the conversation. Making the decisions where to go etc. It's a heavy ass lift and I just see no fukking benefit to the shyt anymore.
I see why a lot of men aren't on that date shyt anymore. It's practically something only enjoyed by the woman. Because I could sure as shyt get to know you at my house.
Let's speak on it.
Men, do you actually enjoy taking a woman out on a date? If so please explain why.
Women, why are you into dates? Is there appeal to it outside of being treated to an outing? I am genuinely trying to understand.
Thank you. Have a great start to your week brehs/brehettes.