Damon Dash: Jay-Z ruined Roc-a-Fella (Responds to Bleek's Drink Champs Clip)

[Da King]

Dude got a "CEO" hat on nikka the definition of a cornball, that's why no one fukks with him

 

[Piff Perkins]

But Dame, I thought you said Lyor destroyed Roc A Fella

tell ducktales and deny your role in your own downfall brehs

 

[Ineedmoney504]

@2:05 is what ive been saying for a decade now.

everything went to chit the moment that dame stepped away and jay had full control. the only person who's still standing is Kanye, and that's only because hes a crossover pop act.

but yet, people want to talk chit about dame and act like jay was the guy. if that's the case, then wheres rocafella? jay getting over on these dikkheads.

That's the thing. Jay didn't want or care about any of that. He was willing to be brought out of roc a wear and roc a fella for whatever it was worth and the rd masters

He only power played the situations cause dame tried to front on him like he didn't have the upper hand anyway. Once he got the roc he treated them like Regular def jam artist, he was in president of def jam mode and not head of roc a fella mode. After he saw no potential in sp he cut ties wit them, he was never they homie that they could call, shyt was business.

And he sold roc a wear and finessed somebody for triple what he brought it from Dame and Biggs, and still has major shares in that brand

Dude was ready to walk away from the roc and everything that came wit it, but dame thought he was gon play hardball and loss.

 

[jilla82]

What I got from this thread is that everyone defending Dame super hard really are just people who dont like Jay for whatever reason.

 

[BaRRyG]

so basically you just said that Dame is the reason for Rocawear and his son has cookies.
Im not saying Dame did nothing...but lets not act like he's some business genius.

If he was some super huslter like you claim...he probably wouldnt be on a reality Tv show right now.

How so?

 

[tuckgod]

Michelle Obama is wearing Rachel Roy in this interview with Barbara Walters. It's one of her and a number of very influential women's favorite brands. Dame owns roughly 35% of the company.

 

[jilla82]

How so?

if youre not a regular 9 to 5er, being on a reality show is sign your times almost up...or you need money.

 

[damn_ese]

Reasons why Lame dash is a clown

-dame sold his stake in rocawear for 22million, jay-z turned around and sold rocawear to iconix for more than 200million
-after he sold his stake in roca-fella, part of the deal was that he got his own label - "The Damon Dash Music Group" which was actually a vanity label, and had no real control over the distribution and funding
-tried to sell curren$y music behind his back, talkin bout "this my chance to get back on top" got caught, was sued and ended up owing curren$y 1.5million
-always saying "invest in women" , get finessed out of a couple million for wife's clothing line, then lose control of the company and end up divorced paying thousands in monthly alimony
-lose your chevy suburban cause you couldnt pay the monthly $700 on it brehs

-he been evicted from 3 different places

-tried to convince people that pro-keds and ceo clothing was cool

-his legs got aids

-calls himself a boss, but dumdum been finessed by a bunch of people

-talks pro black, but keeps shackin up with non black women

-got called a bytch by jim jones and did nothin

-tried to finnese JT tha bigga figga out of trapflix

-been producing garbage juice "hood movies" they not even movies, its just a long ass music video.

-been trying to sell out his fake ass tony robbins lectures, but nobody going there to hear you say "pause every 5 minutes"

-stay talking bout jay-z

-stay wearing that old ass roca-fella chain

-dont even pay his barber, lame is the king of trying to get a discount, old ass "groupon dame" talkin bout "i got a membership card for that B!"

-tried to go the hipster way to make money, shyt failed, now he on some "ima be the steven spelberg of harlem", breh better focus on affording rent and stop fukking scheming broads that gonna finesse you dame dummy
-end up on a D-list celebrity show to pay your phone bill brehs
-talking bout "im the new ralph Lauren" dress like its still 2005 brehs
-wonder why people work with you once or a couple times and then abandon you and change their numbers
-post a video saying you and Kanye about to buy Karmaloop, Kanye definitely didnt want to be there but was like "let me throw this goof a bone and BS a little" , turns out the deal was mostly just Dame talking out his ass,
-have your wife/ex thottin around with hov
-have your daughter block you on IG

 

[Wacky D]

Dame is a clown, It's sad because I use to look up to Dame, and it turns out he was nothing but a fraud ass c00n.

Jay-Z signed most the rocafella artist, , matter of fact he told Lyor who to sign Dame ain't never sign shyt, Rocafella wasn't a real record label it was an imprint Dame was never a boss like lyor or LA Reid.

Rocafella was ruined, Rocafelle was Jay-Z, State Property was never popular, Camron went platinum only when he was playing back up to Jay-Z

that's like giving D12 credit for going platinum or Obie Trice when you know goddamn well it was because of the Eminem association

same with camron, kanye, and Dipset.

If Jay-Z was the head nikka in charge, and cosigned Kanye he never would blew up. If he was on any other label under a lesser artist he never would've made it, Jay-Z cosigned and made him cool. Dame ain't cosign anybody HE IS NOT A RAPPER HE DON'T MAKE MUSIC.

Dame did not believe in Kanye lmao, he wanted to make an album where Camron and everybody else rapped on his beats, he said this himself, nobody believed in Kanye has a rap artist.

Kanye put up his own MONEY. He was rich because Jay-Z made hits and he produced them, which is why Kanye had the money to make his own video for Through the Wire. Kanye been rapping since the 90's, he even battled common, he been trying to be a rapper. He almost got a deal from capitol as a rapper., when they renigged, that's when Dame decided to sign them only because some cac took interest, but he mainly wanted his beats.

Dame basically wanted to sign for his beats can be for his artist lmao, he admits
Kanye blew himself up.

not this kid again.

I stopped reading when he said Camron played back up to jay-z.

 

[Zero]

Yet Biggs said that selling the Roc and cashing out was the plan from the jump.......



You nikkas don't really like or support Dame like that, not most of you. He's just an easy out for your hatred of Jay, I see you.

Repped

 

[Art Barr]

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But Dame, I thought you said Lyor destroyed Roc A Fella

tell ducktales and deny your role in your own downfall brehs

Lyor did sabotage rocafella with jayz and would have had a successful coup of jay from rocafella before defjam stepped In for the double coup swerve to everybody not named jayz and defjam.


Why people keep spinning this false narrative about dame destroying rocafella with his attitude and rants is disengenuine and completely false.
Rocafella was actually fine till jayz,...over obsessed with nas, and stalking nas.
lead to nas stalking him on the mic with fatjoe and prodigy in tow on mixtapes.
That eventually nas ramped using that platform.
to get back what nas lost.
when, nas sold out and went jiggy with it on numerous sellout occassion.
If jay never says or does not precipitate nas.
By nas's bad sellout choices.
Jay, would have never needed a nas feature or cosign to pull up cred wise to nas.
All because nas was selling out his cred with low quality jiggy album submissions and low quality work bar to bar song to song.
So, if jay was not so obsessive rocafella would have never lost in perception to ether.
As ether would have never been made or been precipitated to be made without jay.
Dame catches flack from a false narrative that is not true.
When it was really dame trying to create a stop gap in the coup of jay from rocafella to lyor.
That dame because of his verbal defiance when dealing with execs in distribution and pr lead to this false narrative being crafted and made to look like it is all the way real when it is welled in a fallacy.
Yes, dame had an argumentative and corrosive personality that delved into verbal and physical hazing in an admin environment.
Yet, in business that always happens.
Especially, in an entrepreneurial arena.
Where some sellouts all went on a fabricated gold rush.
to ruin an entire culture and lie about how they ransacked and pillaged the spoils.
Dame's problem is he can not admit his wrong.
Which is business 101, as far as textbook operation.
Ever since Tylenol, accepted liability and negligence and instituted tamper free caps and packaging to change the game in our Gen.
That is simple business.

Dame never accepted accountability and was never forthright.
Which is why his cultural disengenuine face ass never gets across the wrong done to him in business.
He is a clown because he won't throw his former partner under the bus for the coup and keeps a fake pr based ideal about the situation that masks people from the real truth.
All because he ha to shield his other mishandling that were ill timed as well.

So, since he never will atone or accept accountability.
His whole draw, public image, perception etc...
All will never recover.....you must accept accountability in life.
Plus and most importantly in business to move forward from fault that has occurred.
Dame never accepted accountability where he was at fault and because of that his draw will remain unrepaired.
Only sellouts never accept accountability.


Art Barr

 

[BaRRyG]

if youre not a regular 9 to 5er, being on a reality show is sign your times almost up...or you need money.

Im pretty sure trump was caking off his reality show, so are the Kardashians and a host of other folks making that bread, shyt trump running for president, how is that really falling off?

 

[Deltron]

Dame's problem is he can not admit his wrong.
Which is business 101, as far as textbook operation.
Ever since Tylenol, accepted liability and negligence and instituted temper free caps and packaging to change the game.

Dame never accepted accountability and was never forthright.
Which is why his cultural disengenuine face ass never gets across the wrong done to him in business.
He is a clown because he won't throw his former partner under the bus for the coup and keeps a fake pr based ideal abut the situation that masks people from the real truth.

So, since he never will atone or accept accountability.
His whole draw, public image, perception etc...
All will never recover.....you must accept accountability in life.
Plus and most importantly in business to move forward from fault that has occurred.
Dame never accepted accountability where he was at fault and because of that his draw will remain unrepaired.
Only sellouts never accept accountability.

Real talk about accountability, that's something Dame or anyone's gotta learn in all facets of life.

 

[Wacky D]

That's the thing. Jay didn't want or care about any of that. He was willing to be brought out of roc a wear and roc a fella for whatever it was worth and the rd masters

He only power played the situations cause dame tried to front on him like he didn't have the upper hand anyway. Once he got the roc he treated them like Regular def jam artist, he was in president of def jam mode and not head of roc a fella mode. After he saw no potential in sp he cut ties wit them, he was never they homie that they could call, shyt was business.

And he sold roc a wear and finessed somebody for triple what he brought it from Dame and Biggs, and still has major shares in that brand

Dude was ready to walk away from the roc and everything that came wit it, but dame thought he was gon play hardball and loss.

this is wrong.

jay NEVER had any interest in his artists blowing like that, outside of maybe bleek. and even then, dame did most of the work for bleek too.

no potential in the state property artists? young gunz & freeway were coming off of plaques. young gunz were coming off a grammy nomination. their careers instantly died the minute dame was no longer around. that entire label, including the new artists as well, like tierra marie. beans went to dame's label and had the biggest year of his career without jay being in the way. all while sitting in a cell. then he goes back to jay and his career is instantly over. nobody did chit except Kanye, and that's because hes a pop star and that's no thanks to jay, who did nothing but leech of the bul.

If jay saw no potential in state property, then why'd he block beans & freeway from signing to g-unit? why didn't he just let them go?
you say jay was never their homie, but he was the main one talking that la familia mess when he was jackin their chit and sending them out to fight his battles.

no offense, but I don't care about rocawear or their pockets b. I don't know anything about that stuff. I'm just talking about rocafella records.

he gave kevin hart his first starring role

yep.

don't forget what he did for lee daniels.

All Jay Z had is Rihanna,Jeezy and Ross??

What?....nikka.

This nikka said it like Rihanna ain't put millions of dollars into Jay' s account. Jeezy dropped mad heat with his first 2 album. Ross BEEN dropping heat since 06

This nikka said all he had was Rihanna Jeezy and Ross

those weren't jay's artists.

they were def jam artists. ross was poppin regardless. jeezy was already huge.
rihanna was jay's protégé, but lets be real. you know LA Reid & them blew her up. she wasn't on roc. tierra marie was the roc artist.

be smart.

the roc nation team is literally all of the old roc a fella team, excluding dame...and theyre doing just fine over there

@ roc nation

He's not even making sense. He was done with rap and didn't want to push artists any more because they weren't cool. Ok but then he had Beanie and Curren$y and continued to try to do music on his own. He just wasn't successful. So...

on that video talking mad

yeah right he doesn't wanna live the kinda lifestyle jay-z does

With the Curren$y talk, you know how many classics and buzz Curren$y had before that Dame shyt? he didn't advance nada, just stole his money.

did you dudes even watch the video?

everything he said was on-point, if you were around to know.

stop falling for smokescreens & be smart.

For now on, all things Rocafella Breakup needs to b summed in a Biggs quote from his recent Rap Radar interview; this is a business, The ROC wasn't supposed to last past ten yrs...they planned on building and flipping it and moving on.

this may have been the initial plan in '95 or whatever.

but was this still the plan in '00 or '02 or '04?

doesn't look like it. not just on dame's part, but on jay's as well.

 

[seemorecizzy]

Reasons why Lame dash is a clown

-dame sold his stake in rocawear for 22million, jay-z turned around and sold rocawear to iconix for more than 200million
-after he sold his stake in roca-fella, part of the deal was that he got his own label - "The Damon Dash Music Group" which was actually a vanity label, and had no real control over the distribution and funding
-tried to sell curren$y music behind his back, talkin bout "this my chance to get back on top" got caught, was sued and ended up owing curren$y 1.5million
-always saying "invest in women" , get finessed out of a couple million for wife's clothing line, then lose control of the company and end up divorced paying thousands in monthly alimony
-lose your chevy suburban cause you couldnt pay the monthly $700 on it brehs

-he been evicted from 3 different places

-tried to convince people that pro-keds and ceo clothing was cool

-his legs got aids

-calls himself a boss, but dumdum been finessed by a bunch of people

-talks pro black, but keeps shackin up with non black women

-got called a bytch by jim jones and did nothin

-tried to finnese JT tha bigga figga out of trapflix

-been producing garbage juice "hood movies" they not even movies, its just a long ass music video.

-been trying to sell out his fake ass tony robbins lectures, but nobody going there to hear you say "pause every 5 minutes"

-stay talking bout jay-z

-stay wearing that old ass roca-fella chain

-dont even pay his barber, lame is the king of trying to get a discount, old ass "groupon dame" talkin bout "i got a membership card for that B!"

-tried to go the hipster way to make money, shyt failed, now he on some "ima be the steven spelberg of harlem", breh better focus on affording rent and stop fukking scheming broads that gonna finesse you dame dummy
-end up on a D-list celebrity show to pay your phone bill brehs
-talking bout "im the new ralph Lauren" dress like its still 2005 brehs
-wonder why people work with you once or a couple times and then abandon you and change their numbers
-post a video saying you and Kanye about to buy Karmaloop, Kanye definitely didnt want to be there but was like "let me throw this goof a bone and BS a little" , turns out the deal was mostly just Dame talking out his ass,
-have your wife/ex thottin around with hov
-have your daughter block you on IG

I stopped reading after "lame dash"