Damon Dash: Jay-Z ruined Roc-a-Fella (Responds to Bleek's Drink Champs Clip)

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what team is jay missing? He doesn't care to promote artist like that, so he will never have a crew ever again where he would have to do ground work and be at radio stations wit them. He has a dream team of executives around him that he comfortable wit and run roc nation like a label, not none of that we family shyt.

That's fine. I said he's doing very well and it's not like Jay-z lost. I never said he isn't doing well. However, there was one point in time where Roc-A-Fella had Kanye West, Beanie Sigel, Cam'ron, Jay-z, and Just Blaze. Musically they were putting out great song after great song. Right now Jay-z doesn't have his hand or apart of as much of a movement as he was then. Would you agree with that?

Roc-A-Fella is like the last great Hip Hop label IMO and Jay-z could never lose in life. He's winning for 3 life times as it stands.
 

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Exactly why he fails.
How do you go from the best pr'd rapper in the history of rap.
To no publicist in a decade, in an era built off of excellent pr campaigns not actually working but still have to be present.


No wonder jay almost couped rocafella and defjam with lyor and left dame holding the trick bag.
After defjam got wind of it and pulled a double coup of jay from lyor and dame.

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name someone he crafted...
...or a business that he grew since Roc.

Kanye/Kevin Hart arent Dame creations...those dudes grinded and made their own way.

Im not a Dame hater...but he needs to be more self aware.
If he could slow down, admit some of his fuk ups, and be just a tad bit humble he would be able to come back...but nobody is going to give someone like him the time of day.

F*ck outta here Dame put Kanye on, he was always thought of as a corny azz nikka, Dame saw something in him. You f*ckin' revisionists are unbelievable :smh:
 

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Bleek gave Dame credit at the end of the interview as one of his favorite ceos though. I could see Dame being agitated that people always harp on him going off on people,especialy when they admit he was right. Its dames bridge to burn if he wanted to burn it by doing it his way. He seems to be okay with not seling his soul and playing nice with people,thats hard for a lot of people to understand.


The reason people crap on dame is because he is the biggest culture thief.
Even down to stealing the verbiage and usage of it.
Then, trying to recoin the term for himself, as culture vulture.
That is why he gets shyt on, because he is delusional..plus he is a theif and a fraud just like his fam is known for being after his most successful pr'd cousin went down after being a mid to nineties black business pr'd success.
Which is probably how dame got the pr connects to make rocafella a draw originally.


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For now on, all things Rocafella Breakup needs to b summed in a Biggs quote from his recent Rap Radar interview; this is a business, The ROC wasn't supposed to last past ten yrs...they planned on building and flipping it and moving on.
 

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so basically you just said that Dame is the reason for Rocawear and his son has cookies.
Im not saying Dame did nothing...but lets not act like he's some business genius.

If he was some super huslter like you claim...he probably wouldnt be on a reality Tv show right now.
:what: you don't think Dame is a super hustler? Is that a joke or a joke?
 

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@2:05 is what ive been saying for a decade now.

everything went to chit the moment that dame stepped away and jay had full control. the only person who's still standing is Kanye, and that's only because hes a crossover pop act.

but yet, people want to talk chit about dame and act like jay was the guy. if that's the case, then wheres rocafella? jay getting over on these dikkheads.
 

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I think I might have to pray for Dame

Smh

Whatever it was he got to stop looking back...get a new vision...success is revenge
 

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Roc Nation is a management company that other people run, same with Tidal. Roc Nation manages big names like DJ Mustard after the fact. Roc-A-Fella records blew up a Kanye West. You guys don't see the difference? Roc Nation isn't finding the next Beanie Sigel. They are trying to sign already established artists.

Again, how is Tidal and Roc Nation comparable to Roc-A-Fella records, one of the greatest Hip Hop labels of all time and during its 'run'
You had to spell it out for these slow nikkas.

:snoop:
 
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