Damon Dash: Jay-Z ruined Roc-a-Fella (Responds to Bleek's Drink Champs Clip)

[seemorecizzy]

"bu, bu, but dame smashed aliyah, and wore nice shoes . . so you know he a brilliant business man!" old ass dame stan . . stop wearing phat farm dum dum

you can't read breh, I was not not giving him any type of business advice

i was however pointing out why i think he's a clown

but again, couldn't refute my points though huh?!

It you think he's a clown, I can only imagine what he would think of you

 

[BXKingPin82]

CHATTY PATTIES!!!!!

 

[tuckgod]

Reasons why Lame dash is a clown

If he's such a clown, what does that say about a nikka that studies his moves and takes 15 minutes out of his own life to make a comment about him?

 

[rapbeats]

Dame need to stfu nikka was burning bridges left and right while jay mended them to protect his own interest. Don't blame Jay at all for moving on. Dame would still be getting money with Jay if he put his ego to the side. He wanted to be a heel Diddy and there wasn't a lane for it.

here's what yall dont get about dame.

dame is the only guy out of that camp that was not an artist. notice what bleek said in that interview he did with nore. he was talking about dame burning bridges. but he mentioned a bunch of jewish gate keepers. some black people dont like that idea of always having to wait hand and foot on white people/jewish folk etc to open doors. thats get old. when he says that game is corny. it is. this is what even corny joe budden was saying when he said he also dropped the ball on his first album release with not wanting to do all the industry parties, radio nonsense. because they know these people act fake and love you when you're not but you're dead to them when you're not. thats not real life. thats the entertainment world. and that way of acting is acceptable in that world. real hood dudes even those that make money and get out the hood sometimes are still real hood dudes in the mind. thats dame. jay not so much. and its not a bad thing its just different. artists that want to stay popping always know they have to make certain butt kissing moves to keep themselves out there. they have to smile, shake hands and kiss babies like a politician. its politics. sometimes you dont want to deal with that level of acting and politican. thats where dame is in life. he would love to make money off of clothes, and on his own stuff so he doesnt have to answer to those other people. now if the industry was less fake and more real. dame would love it. so thats what yall need to get about him.

He was not made to make money with jay z forever. because jay will roll with whats winning. Dame will try to create his own. and if it wins great. if not, if he believes in it he will keep going with it even in a losing effort. jay aint trying to lose. ever. he's rolling with winners, the winning team, the winning thing. which is why some haters calls him a trend rider not a trend setter.

dame is willing to lose money, lose time, lose popularity trying to be a trend setter. jay not so much. but jay is an artist. dame isnt. two different mindsets. there is something in an artist that loves to be loved by even strangers. not so much for non artists.

 

[KENNY DA COOKER]

But his fascination with Rachel Roy isn't healthy. Let her go breh.

I don't think it's THAT EASY when she was not only your former business partner..but a beautiful EX WIFE as well

 

[Master Teacher]

lol @ jay-z hoppin on an album cut being the reason why Camron sold. nevermind the fact that Camron had 2 of the biggest singles in hip-hop that year.

if cam went plat just because of rocafella, then how come none of jay's other artists went platinum?

you dudes don't even think with your brains. you think with your dikk.

lol @ those rocafella flicks being movies that nobody saw. them chits been coming on TV for like 10 years now. IM GONNA ASK AGAIN, how old are you breh? and nobody said he made kevin hart, but those rocafella flicks were clearly his breakthrough.





lol @ those execs trying to groom dame. come on breh. and theres a fine line between not wanting to work with somebody and completely ousting/blackballing them.

call it like it is. regardless of dame's mouth, they don't want CEOs like dame in the game. look around, theyre all gone or in much lesser standing. its not just dame.

listen, you can like jay-z all you want but don't let that blind you breh. youre smarter than that.

The singles were big because they were released on Rocafella you fukking moron

Cam signing to the Roc would be like Jay signing to Shady records lmao he would be under Eminem. Cam was under Jay period.

Cam and Dipset never had shine like that and went back to being B level rappers after the Roc broke up lmao, yet Jay-Z and Kanye kept going multi platinum while throwing up the roc lmao

Nobody gave a fukk about paper soldiers man, it didn't make Kevin Hart's career, it was just his first job lmao

the fact he is richer and more successful than dame and then lapped this nikka is proof enough Dame is incompetent.

here's what yall dont get about dame.

dame is the only guy out of that camp that was not an artist. notice what bleek said in that interview he did with nore. he was talking about dame burning bridges. but he mentioned a bunch of jewish gate keepers. some black people dont like that idea of always having to wait hand and foot on white people/jewish folk etc to open doors. thats get old. when he says that game is corny. it is. this is what even corny joe budden was saying when he said he also dropped the ball on his first album release with not wanting to do all the industry parties, radio nonsense. because they know these people act fake and love you when you're not but you're dead to them when you're not. thats not real life. thats the entertainment world. and that way of acting is acceptable in that world. real hood dudes even those that make money and get out the hood sometimes are still real hood dudes in the mind. thats dame. jay not so much. and its not a bad thing its just different. artists that want to stay popping always know they have to make certain butt kissing moves to keep themselves out there. they have to smile, shake hands and kiss babies like a politician. its politics. sometimes you dont want to deal with that level of acting and politican. thats where dame is in life. he would love to make money off of clothes, and on his own stuff so he doesnt have to answer to those other people. now if the industry was less fake and more real. dame would love it. so thats what yall need to get about him.

He was not made to make money with jay z forever. because jay will roll with whats winning. Dame will try to create his own. and if it wins great. if not, if he believes in it he will keep going with it even in a losing effort. jay aint trying to lose. ever. he's rolling with winners, the winning team, the winning thing. which is why some haters calls him a trend rider not a trend setter.

dame is willing to lose money, lose time, lose popularity trying to be a trend setter. jay not so much. but jay is an artist. dame isnt. two different mindsets. there is something in an artist that loves to be loved by even strangers. not so much for non artists.

Once again, this is why Jay had to get rid of them. He had people fooled, he had people fooled thinking he was a force. He wasn't shyt period.
He got tired of Dame getting shine off him and almost ruining Rocafella by company money and putting into his dumb ass ventures without even notifying him.

He was just a talker, he talk shyt his ass can't cash.

He got hustled by Rachel Roy lmao a dumb white broad

He got hustled by Lee Daniels a fukking gay man terry cloth ass nikka

He blew all his money lmao and went broke

he paying child support to multiply baby mamas

He was never a boss. These things do not happen to bosses period.

 

[Suleiman Bey]

here's what yall dont get about dame.

dame is the only guy out of that camp that was not an artist. notice what bleek said in that interview he did with nore. he was talking about dame burning bridges. but he mentioned a bunch of jewish gate keepers. some black people dont like that idea of always having to wait hand and foot on white people/jewish folk etc to open doors. thats get old. when he says that game is corny. it is. this is what even corny joe budden was saying when he said he also dropped the ball on his first album release with not wanting to do all the industry parties, radio nonsense. because they know these people act fake and love you when you're not but you're dead to them when you're not. thats not real life. thats the entertainment world. and that way of acting is acceptable in that world. real hood dudes even those that make money and get out the hood sometimes are still real hood dudes in the mind. thats dame. jay not so much. and its not a bad thing its just different. artists that want to stay popping always know they have to make certain butt kissing moves to keep themselves out there. they have to smile, shake hands and kiss babies like a politician. its politics. sometimes you dont want to deal with that level of acting and politican. thats where dame is in life. he would love to make money off of clothes, and on his own stuff so he doesnt have to answer to those other people. now if the industry was less fake and more real. dame would love it. so thats what yall need to get about him.

He was not made to make money with jay z forever. because jay will roll with whats winning. Dame will try to create his own. and if it wins great. if not, if he believes in it he will keep going with it even in a losing effort. jay aint trying to lose. ever. he's rolling with winners, the winning team, the winning thing. which is why some haters calls him a trend rider not a trend setter.

dame is willing to lose money, lose time, lose popularity trying to be a trend setter. jay not so much. but jay is an artist. dame isnt. two different mindsets. there is something in an artist that loves to be loved by even strangers. not so much for non artists.

That is real life.

 

[tuckgod]

I don't think it's THAT EASY when she was not only your former business partner..but a beautiful EX WIFE as well

But they're not even former business partners. They are former marriage partners, but they jointly own 67% of Rachel Roy and split it 50/50 to this day.

What I find hilarious is nikkas on here constantly talk that black empowerment, black business support shyt, but whenever a black man who actually lives that life is discussed, he gets a whole lot of hate from nikkas because of the enemies he's made.

You will never find a successful businessman who hasn't made enemies along the way. That's par for the course. But when we happen to enjoy the art of their enemies, all that black empowerment, black business support shyt goes out the window. nikkas is actually in here competing on who can shyt on Dame the most, when all that nikka did was shyt on cacs and c00ns, while doing whatever he had to do to promote his artists and make sure they were paid what they were worth.

These same fukk nikkas turn around and wonder why we can't progress beyond our current status in this country, and don't even realize their worldview is a big part of the problem.

 

[Just Jimmy]

He gotta chill with the interviews B, sheesh
How can he be focused on new shyt constantly talking about old shyt

 

[SunZoo]

hate on dame all u want but the nikka made moves that changed the game. especially all u kanye stans, jay didn't believe ye was a artist dame did

No he didn't, he Pete Rock'd on some "make my beats fakkit" and Kayne MADE himself a priority, and I don't even like dude.

For now on, all things Rocafella Breakup needs to b summed in a Biggs quote from his recent Rap Radar interview; this is a business, The ROC wasn't supposed to last past ten yrs...they planned on building and flipping it and moving on.

Basically.

The lenght some of these nikkas are going to make it look otherwise...Jay was always the nucleus, Dame made himself expendable with his behavior even if what he was doing worked at some point, you gotta adapt. That's the MAIN fukkING KEY, ADAPT. Jay, being the mammal that he is adapted

 

[Michael's Black Son]

Respect the confidence.


But his fascination with Rachel Roy isn't healthy. Let her go breh.

Dude talk about Rachel Roy like she/it is the female Ralph. I think he knows she was literally his last bridge and he burned that shyt at a time when he thought that Rocafella thang was his forever. I'm sure he'd be at Def Jam for random reasons before the split and staffers there prolly had to hold their tongues because they KNEW shyt was about to fall apart Ana didn't want word to slip because he'd spaz out.

I respect Dame's contributions but he is holding onto Black Album-era clout that is fukkin non existent these days. No one gives a shyt about Rocafella anymore and the only thing he was right about was the fact that the label doesn't exist anymore. I HIGHLY doubt that he was gonna do his "own thing" if the label was left alone

At the end of the day, Lyor and them played the divide and conquer thing and ALOT of people simply didn't wanna be around him anymore, including his golden goose.

 

[PS5 Pro]

nikka Dame signed Kanye as a rapper when everyone was laughing behind Kanye's back whenever he rapped. Kanye himself said he felt bad for siding with Jay because of everything Dame did for him. FOH with that shyt.

And like @WeeBey Brice said....Kevin Hart got his first starring role from Dame.

Did Dame "create" these guys? No, nobody is "created" by someone else unless they're a fully manufactured industry plant, and who knows if those really even exist. But Dame was the FIRST person to give them a shot, and that means something.

State Property AND Dipset popularity was due to Dame, PERIOD. State Property having a clothing line and 2 movies is because of Dame.

Paid in Full, hood classic film, is because of Dame.

Does Jay-Z even start Roc-A-Wear if Dame isn't behind the scenes pushing so hard to diversify???

As since the Roc ended, Dame helped Rachel Roy do her clothing line. It sold for quite a lot. He also helped Curren$y advance his career (and then failed to pay him LOL)

Also, Dame's son is in his 20s and he's doing business as well. Not in music but i think food industry. Dame and his family are straight hustlers, period. Its beyond music, they're just business nikkas all around. His brothers, cousins, they all do business.

As far as Dame making a comeback, who knows if he even WANTS a comeback? He's pretty open that he doesn't fukk with labels or corporations, so he's going indie all the way no matter what he does. Im sure Dame knows he can't have another big rapper that way, so it is what it is.

We all know Dame and how his attitude fukked things up. Im not denying that. But to act like he didn't do nothing but piggy back of Jay, thats nonsense. Hov was struggling to find a fukking deal for years before Dame and Biggs put up the cash. U think Hov wanted to be 27 when his first album dropped? Doubt it.

Bruh, Dame is a snake. Hes basically Birdman cousin
I guess you didn't see Beanie Sigel talking about Dame on the breakfast club last week
He talked about how he created state property, and Dame and them basically was like "Yeah, thats a great idea" and ran with it

Literally. They made it happen, pimped the crew who created, walked away with all the cash. There's a reason its hard to find anybody of relevance talking positive about him. I mean from a business standpoint. They all do the same type of "pause" when they wanna go in on his flaws, but dont. Its obvious tho, he's an egomaniac. He got this swag that Crack dealers often have where they carry themselves like they better than people. Dame's biggest problem is he shows no signs of being humbled by all these experiences. No growth, just bitterness. He's the Joe Frazier of hip-hop now

 

[re'up]

Beanie was on Breakfast Club last week?

 

[Animal House]

No he didn't, he Pete Rock'd on some "make my beats fakkit" and Kayne MADE himself a priority, and I don't even like dude.



Basically.

The lenght some of these nikkas are going to make it look otherwise...Jay was always the nucleus, Dame made himself expendable with his behavior even if what he was doing worked at some point, you gotta adapt. That's the MAIN fukkING KEY, ADAPT. Jay, being the mammal that he is adapted

everbody know dame signed ye, jay didnt believe in him. he said it was dame in that interview he had with sway after the roc breakup and he said it on the bc last year

 

[SunZoo]

everbody know dame signed ye, jay didnt believe in him. he said it was dame in that interview he had with sway after the roc breakup and he said it on the bc last year

You said Dame believe in Kayne as an artist, he did NOT. He signed him to pacify and to keep him as an in house producer. Kayne the rapper made HIMSELF a priority.