Damon Dash: Jay-Z ruined Roc-a-Fella (Responds to Bleek's Drink Champs Clip)

[Art Barr]

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Im pretty sure trump was caking off his reality show, so are the Kardashians and a host of other folks making that bread, shyt trump running for president, how is that really falling off?

It actually is falling off for trump because when you run for president.
After making reality shows which are as desperate a draw as any in all creation of entertainment.
As reality shows are strictly revenue grabs and used for spreadsheet marketing logic.
with no real way to win a presidency besides what fukkery and cheating trump is doing.
You are saying as a business man.
you are no longer poppin and when you fail to win a presidency.
You expose what your real draw is and as far as presidential candidates who fail.
They never recover or bolster their draw with the public as a single entity, themselves as a draw.
Plus, it exposes their draw and what they really are in failure wholeheartedly.
So, trump running is him tapping out or cashing out in the relevent mainstream.
You only run for president.
when you at the end of a drawing rope in business if you were a guy like a trump.
He is only attempting this because his business is so anemiac.
He needs the legislative sway and perception to over compensate and rejuvenate him as a forthright draw in business.
When trump is viewed as a lack of good faith based dynamic player and repeated failure from a pedigree of as high a status as humanly possible in his realm of well to do business owners and stratum.


Art Barr

 

[DrX]

i think the problem was...dame dont realize that jay just seen him as a business partner that could help him achieve his ultimate goal....and damn seen jay as a close friend and brother

jay isnt a evil guy, just a pure capitalist, a business man down to his core....everything he does is super calculated and hes always thinking about dollars....thats why his music isnt experimental...except his few underground cuts like his shiny suit verse

but dame was the one who built the roc...idc what nobody say, dude was the one in the treaches...being bad cop while jay got to jay and be good cop...and then jay got promoted while dame got blackballed

 

[damn_ese]

I stopped reading after "lame dash"

I see you couldnt dispute my points though

 

[Master Teacher]

not this kid again.

I stopped reading when he said Camron played back up to jay-z.

only time Cam went platinum was when he was on the Roc, and Jay-Z had to hop on his album for him to do it.

Facts.

You must be a loser because you dikk riding scrubs.

Lame ass nikkaz in here talking about dame gave Kevin Hart his first acting role lmao

SO

It was a movie nobody saw lol and was straight to DVD status, yall acting he made the nikka

 

[Wacky D]

only time Cam went platinum was when he was on the Roc, and Jay-Z had to hop on his album for him to do it.

Facts.

You must be a loser because you dikk riding scrubs.

Lame ass nikkaz in here talking about dame gave Kevin Hart his first acting role lmao

SO

It was a movie nobody saw lol and was straight to DVD status, yall acting he made the nikka

lol @ jay-z hoppin on an album cut being the reason why Camron sold. nevermind the fact that Camron had 2 of the biggest singles in hip-hop that year.

if cam went plat just because of rocafella, then how come none of jay's other artists went platinum?

you dudes don't even think with your brains. you think with your dikk.

lol @ those rocafella flicks being movies that nobody saw. them chits been coming on TV for like 10 years now. IM GONNA ASK AGAIN, how old are you breh? and nobody said he made kevin hart, but those rocafella flicks were clearly his breakthrough.

It's not about that. It's about cultivating the relationships that will provide you with the resources to further your growth. Dame forgot the most important rule of business being "you will always need help." You have to build these relationships and Dame seemed to be under the impression that he got to where he was by himself. That's why no one fukks with him now. Honestly, I believe they (other execs and powerful people) tried to groom him or show him the ropes and he was just too stubborn to listen. That's what they did with Jay, and that's why Dame was ousted. In the end, Dame's demise was his own doing.

lol @ those execs trying to groom dame. come on breh. and theres a fine line between not wanting to work with somebody and completely ousting/blackballing them.

call it like it is. regardless of dame's mouth, they don't want CEOs like dame in the game. look around, theyre all gone or in much lesser standing. its not just dame.

listen, you can like jay-z all you want but don't let that blind you breh. youre smarter than that.

 

[jilla82]

Im pretty sure trump was caking off his reality show, so are the Kardashians and a host of other folks making that bread, shyt trump running for president, how is that really falling off?

come on breh.
Trump hosting the Apprentice and Dame being on Couples Therapy are two different things.

The Kardashians whole game is reality tv.

 

[BaRRyG]

come on breh.
Trump hosting the Apprentice and Dame being on Couples Therapy are two different things.

The Kardashians whole game is reality tv.

Same concept reality TV

 

[Art Barr]

Real talk about accountability, that's something Dame or anyone's gotta learn in all facets of life.

In, business if you accept accountability immediately.
A possible prospective stop gap can be created.
that maybe successful to right the ship.
The longer you go ignoring the problem and not accepting accountability.
The longer that corrosive damage goes unchecked and spirals out of further control till their is nuffin left.
If you can't accept accountability factually for your part and not be reprimanded for your error you are emo.
As you to emotionally attached.
to, operate with a clear mind to solve the issues.
All because you are instituting new issues.
that should not have to be figured out to solve the first issue.
By not accepting accountability you spiral the situation out of any damage control.
if there existed any possibility for damage control.


Art Barr

 

[Deltron]

In, business if you accept accountability immediately.
A possible prospective stop gap can be created that maybe successful to right the ship.
The longer you go ignoring the problem and not accepting accountability.
The longer that corrosive damage goes unchecked and spirals out of further control till their is muffin left.
If you can't accept accountability factually for your part and not be reprimanded for your error you are emo.
As you to emotionally attached to, operate with a clear mind to solve the issues.
All because you are instituting new issues that should not have to be figured out to solve the first issue.
By not accepting accountability you spiral the situation out of any damage control if there existed any possibility for damage control.


Art Barr

no doubt. agree 100%

 

[Art Barr]

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come on breh.
Trump hosting the Apprentice and Dame being on Couples Therapy are two different things.

The Kardashians whole game is reality tv.

No,...they are all the Same thing.
Trump on NBC is a revenue grab base reality tv show.
That is not even the original network where reality tv originated.
So, it is just perception of the misinformed to think that it is a difference between NBC and Viacom and E!
When in reality nbc/comcast is a ripoff of mtv/Viacom and the bunim/ E! reality show model.
So, trump is the bootleg reality guy.
It is just time has passed to make the later tv scheduled and promoted trump show to look a certain way.
When NBC/comcast gravitated towards reality.
After they surveyed the spreadsheets on a revenue grab model that went mainstream solely from mtv/viacom/e!/bunim.

Anyone saying trump's reality show is above a viacom/bunim show is not aware of what they are talembout.

As MTV/bunim created reality tv and why MTV was acquired by Viacom as an actual real tv program station and not a video channel.


Art Barr

 

[seemorecizzy]

I see you couldnt dispute my points though

you giving business advice to a man who has made an million dollars several times over and travelled the entire world from your moms basement tho

 

[DontEemTry]

Damn shame what happened to Dame Dash. Son is just sad now.

 

[damn_ese]

you giving business advice to a man who has made an million dollars several times over and travelled the entire world from your moms basement tho

"bu, bu, but dame smashed aliyah, and wore nice shoes . . so you know he a brilliant business man!" old ass dame stan . . stop wearing phat farm dum dum

you can't read breh, I was not not giving him any type of business advice

i was however pointing out why i think he's a clown

but again, couldn't refute my points though huh?!

 

[fukkyalifestyle]

"Why you think me and Dame cool, we a$$holes" - Kanye

 

[nieman]

lol @ jay-z hoppin on an album cut being the reason why Camron sold. nevermind the fact that Camron had 2 of the biggest singles in hip-hop that year.

if cam went plat just because of rocafella, then how come none of jay's other artists went platinum?

you dudes don't even think with your brains. you think with your dikk.

lol @ those rocafella flicks being movies that nobody saw. them chits been coming on TV for like 10 years now. IM GONNA ASK AGAIN, how old are you breh? and nobody said he made kevin hart, but those rocafella flicks were clearly his breakthrough.





lol @ those execs trying to groom dame. come on breh. and theres a fine line between not wanting to work with somebody and completely ousting/blackballing them.

call it like it is. regardless of dame's mouth, they don't want CEOs like dame in the game. look around, theyre all gone or in much lesser standing. its not just dame.

listen, you can like jay-z all you want but don't let that blind you breh. youre smarter than that.

I don't like Jay-Z either. But most of the old guard is still around. Diddy is just as much of an a$$hole, but he's still making moves, so he has to be doing something right. If he weren't that much of an a$$hole, someone would've given him a job. Jay could've at least said "OK, here's this position for you." DDMG wasn't even under IDJMG.

I believe that someone over there had to be tellin him, "yo, you have to start doin this, this and this because...." but Dame wasn't trying to hear them. Even Irv got tha call from Lyor for a job at Warners. Basically, everyone is somewhere except for Dame. That has to be a phone call type blacklist.