Damn, looks like Phil Spencer has officially accepted defeat from Sony. Says Starfield won’t change shyt

[Gizmo_Duck]

Damn it crazy to think about it, but Sony fukked them over so badly int the console market, it forced them to go a different route with this service shyt.
Xbox nikkas love to reminisce about the 360 sales days, how it was 80M to 81M. It really wasnt, a few of those Ms were due to the RROD and ppl having to buy another 360. shyt had me heated when I had to buy another one
They were perfectly positioned off the 360 though. They were known as the "multiplayer console"/online stuff while ps was known for the single player experience. It's a ok short term strat, especially with ps3 being hard to develop for, but wouldnt only last til the next gen came and Sony got their head outta their asses and made a more dev friendly console. The only reason I got a 360 was due to wanted to play UFC online there (I was in an online league lmao). At the end of the day it's about IP for your console. Sony laid seeds with IP that they still use today like GoW and TLoU. Made new IP like Horizon. MS fumbled their shyt because they let their heavy hitters shyt the bed and relied to heavily on 3rd party shyt. Seemed like ppl liked Crackdown back in the day, last entry seems ill received. Halo seemed abandoned for years. Dead Rising made me want a 360.

Yeah, at the end of the day there is no getting around the idea that you need big note worthy IP. Halo is officially dead at this point, a new gears ain’t setting the world on fire and Forza is almost a yearly franchise at this point.

They need successful series that are poppin and strongly associated with xbox. At the end of the day they gotta sell hardware if they want their subs and cloud userbase to grow and you can only do that through good games

 

[Fatboi1]

In an alternate reality, Xbox One would've been only 20~30 million units behind had it been priced at $400 and didn't have the used games/kinect controversy, Bungie would've developed Destiny exclusively for Xbox One, Halo 5 would've released now instead of Infinite etc.

People act like Xbox 360 really wasn't that console for online gaming? PS3 mp was seen as inferior and 2nd class compared to Xbox Live. I remember when PSN was hacked and it was down for a few weeks, that was a huge L for Sony stans and now a few years later it's like it never happened. All these excuses about Sony being too strong is just excuses, MSFT could've turned things around a long time ago.

 

[daze23]

the goal of a business is to turn a profit

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

In an alternate reality, Xbox One would've been only 20~30 million units behind had it been priced at $400 and didn't have the used games/kinect controversy, Bungie would've developed Destiny exclusively for Xbox One, Halo 5 would've released now instead of Infinite etc.

People act like Xbox 360 really wasn't that console for online gaming? PS3 mp was seen as inferior and 2nd class compared to Xbox Live. I remember when PSN was hacked and it was down for a few weeks, that was a huge L for Sony stans and now a few years later it's like it never happened. All these excuses about Sony being too strong is just excuses, MSFT could've turned things around a long time ago.

Microsoft needs less gamers as CEO’s and more business men

 

[ORDER_66]

Yeah, at the end of the day there is no getting around the idea that you need big note worthy IP. Halo is officially dead at this point, a new gears ain’t setting the world on fire and Forza is almost a yearly franchise at this point.

They need successful series that are poppin and strongly associated with xbox. At the end of the day they gotta sell hardware if they want their subs and cloud userbase to grow and you can only do that through good games

You think Phil got what it takes... Dude basically went on a worldwide stream and basically admitted defeat... dude so focused on gamepass he's not even caring about the games these companies under him are making... Gamepass won't work at all if you don't have top notch games. Muthafukka so focused competing with Netflix and Amazon for customers he forgets he's in charge of a GAME making company... they need someone younger and hungrier he gotta go. He did good but it's over...

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

You think Phil got what it takes... Dude basically went on a worldwide stream and basically admitted defeat... dude so focused on gamepass he's not even caring about the games these companies under him are making... Gamepass won't work at all if you don't have top notch games. Muthafukka so focused competing with Netflix and Amazon for customers he forgets he's in charge of a GAME making company... they need someone younger and hungrier he gotta go. He did good but it's over...

He said even if starfield is a 11/10 it wouldn’t make a difference…then why make it exclusive to xbox/pc?

 

[EzekelRAGE]

Yeah, at the end of the day there is no getting around the idea that you need big note worthy IP. Halo is officially dead at this point, a new gears ain’t setting the world on fire and Forza is almost a yearly franchise at this point.

They need successful series that are poppin and strongly associated with xbox. At the end of the day they gotta sell hardware if they want their subs and cloud userbase to grow and you can only do that through good games

They sorta got that now with Bethesda. All their shyt is gonna be a game changer imo, but the issue is they take long as hell to release shyt. nikkas might not see the exclusive Elder Scrolls or Fallout til next generation.

Microsoft needs less gamers as CEO’s and more business men

Yep. Im a PC nikka, but as a console maker, having all your shyt release day and date with PC makes no sense as a CEO. You really not giving anyone a reason to buy your console. I know the tagline is "we doing service now", screw all that, lock nikkas into your ecosystem by buying a console.
If you want the PC money, do ports after a couple years like Sony.

 

[gurf]

That man never said this

Folks is like Lions Fans

Ol' we had Barry Sanders (Halo), but still can't make the playoff ass folks.

Tickets are cheap, but we can't get any players (games) for the team ass folks.

It's a fun night out, at least they try to play hard ass folks.

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Yep. Im a PC nikka, but as a console maker, having all your shyt release day and date with PC makes no sense as a CEO. You really not giving anyone a reason to buy your console. I know the tagline is "we doing service now", screw all that, lock nikkas into your ecosystem by buying a console.
If you want the PC money, do ports after a couple years like Sony.

I will always stand firm on the point that this was the wisest decision for sony, especially as a company that still wants to sell hardware. Thats why it never made sense to me that people suggested Sony was gonna make some huge pivot to day and date on pc, that was a mistake from Microsoft. Going all in on pc and all in on gamepass is something Sony was smart enough to stand back and watch play out, and right now its playing out to their detriment.

With the amount of pirating on pc, the issue with installing denuvo, having profit splits with Steam/EGS, having to develop for multiple platforms which just add to time between releases, etc. etc.

It just never made sense. Code to the metal with one platform and think about the rest later. Of course Multiplayer will be the exception, and even then not all of them need to be multiplatform

 

[CEO of Morgan Industries]

Microsoft needs less gamers as CEO’s and more business men

No excuses for the gamer CEOs at Microsoft. Iwata was the ultimate gamer CEO, and he launched the Wii, DS, and 3DS. He stuck with the branding too long for WiiU, but he knew his business.

And he was also smart enough to course correct on the 3DS's rough launch. If Iwata was resurrected today and put in charge of Xbox division, Xbox would be far, far better off.

 

[gurf]

Current Xbox Leadership

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The kind of leader XBOX needs.

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[Fatboi1]

"Sony too skrong, can't compete "

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

"Sony too skrong, can't compete "

A lot of those aren’t even actual SIE studios lol, SPI, SPHE, Bungie, and San Mateo aren’t actually development studios

Sony have 20 studios, Microsoft have 24

3* sony studios are support studios and 3 xbox studios are multiplatform

 

[Diondon]

Microsoft needs less gamers as CEO’s and more business men

Phil aint a gamer he just cosplays as one
He don't know WTF he be talmbout

Phil Spencer: Crackdown 3 Is Still In The Works, Latest Build Looked Good

Xbox's Phil Spencer commented on Crackdown 3 cancellation rumors, stating that the team is still at work and that the game is looking good

wccftech.com

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

Phil aint a gamer he just cosplays as one
He don't know WTF he be talmbout

Phil Spencer: Crackdown 3 Is Still In The Works, Latest Build Looked Good

Xbox's Phil Spencer commented on Crackdown 3 cancellation rumors, stating that the team is still at work and that the game is looking good

wccftech.com

He says all that mid looks good, he thought Halo Infinite looked good before the first showing of it. He’s legally contracted to say wack shyt looks good, but he still stans god of war and Destiny when he gets the chance