SleezyBigSlim
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He's gotta be worth more than 100k if he's a homeowner.
Dame Dash is one of the biggest frauds in Hip-Hop. (March 2022 UPDATE!)
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He's gotta be worth more than 100k if he's a homeowner.
What business ideas
pretty sure Jay-Z superstar rapping ability got him to wear he was, Dame was spending money out the rocafella business account to fund his side businesses, one of the reasons he was cut off
he's a clown
Dusty Bake Activate
Fukk your corny debates
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King-Over-Kingz
Okay most people in order to start a business need capital. Either through loans or "working". When they asked Dame how he got his start up money or capital he was silent because he knew his seed money came from drug dealing. Jobs/working are a means to an end. Either to support yourself or family or to build capital to invest in yourself.
That would matter if the position was “quit your job now and be a boss” but it wasn’t. It was more so shift your mentality from that of a worker/employer to that of a boss
But if people wanna take what he said personal and take it out on him then that’s on them
Put 20 years on any job and you can’t pass nothing down to your seed unless they allow you to. Now 20 years in your own shyt? That’s something that can be passed be down. And that’s what I took from it. I didn’t take the “if you have a job you aren’t doing something right” from what he said. I took it as motivation as to put myself in position to where my work and efforts can be passed down to make it easier for my next generation. Instead of working a job for 20 years and not being able to pass anything down...
mind you those net worths aren't necessarily accurate, that said...
when you're right, you're right.
vdfebduderocks
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Dame's problem is that he always gets in his own way. His ideas and beliefs aren't a problem, he just doesn't know how to deliver them in a way where people are able to listen to them. His delivery rubs people the wrong way. His pride gets in the way too often.
People can only deal with Dame in doses. That's the real problem. It's why he has on-and-off relationships with a ton of people, including Kanye. It's why many others don't speak to him. Post-Roc, he was at his best when he was with Rachel Roy. After that, everything fell down the toilet.
But as some people said, he was on certain ideas and trends early. He was managing Floyd Mayweather early. The art/music studios with DD172 where he discovered tons of up-and-coming talent was good. His Netflix alternative isn't a bad concept. The problem is that he never likes to spend enough time building out all those ideas because he's way too busy spreading himself thin on a 1000 different projects. Also, he's very unwilling to partner with other people, even if it means being a lesser partner in bigger projects. Maybe the deal he had with Fox Soul changes that mindset - idk - but I highly doubt it.
People can only deal with Dame in doses. That's the real problem. It's why he has on-and-off relationships with a ton of people, including Kanye. It's why many others don't speak to him. Post-Roc, he was at his best when he was with Rachel Roy. After that, everything fell down the toilet.
But as some people said, he was on certain ideas and trends early. He was managing Floyd Mayweather early. The art/music studios with DD172 where he discovered tons of up-and-coming talent was good. His Netflix alternative isn't a bad concept. The problem is that he never likes to spend enough time building out all those ideas because he's way too busy spreading himself thin on a 1000 different projects. Also, he's very unwilling to partner with other people, even if it means being a lesser partner in bigger projects. Maybe the deal he had with Fox Soul changes that mindset - idk - but I highly doubt it.
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That would matter if the position was “quit your job now and be a boss” but it wasn’t. It was more so shift your mentality from that of a worker/employer to that of a boss
But if people wanna take what he said personal and take it out on him then that’s on them
Put 20 years on any job and you can’t pass nothing down to your seed unless they allow you to. Now 20 years in your own shyt? That’s something that can be passed be down. And that’s what I took from it. I didn’t take the “if you have a job you aren’t doing something right” from what he said. I took it as motivation as to put myself in position to where my work and efforts can be passed down to make it easier for my next generation. Instead of working a job for 20 years and not being able to pass anything down...
You can pass down plenty of assets just by working a good career.
An investment banker, an ER surgeon, or a lawyer working at a big firm can set their kids up way better than some dude that owns a local pizza shop.
One of Dame’s ideas is what 50cent is doing in the new phase of his career on TV and has built an empire on it.
A lot of you just get emotional because of how he came across on his Breakfast club interview. Once you look past his antics - you’d see a lot of gems in what he says.
There are hundreds of rappers better than Jay Z’s out there. Jay’s biggest selling point has always been his image and that came from Dame and Biggz.
Can we talk about what Jay has done since Dame left?
Musically - he has been carried by Kanye, his wife and Rihana.
Roc Nation - that’s a subsidiary of Live Nation owned by Jews. The Roc Nation Sports arm of it took huge losses in tens of millions when it went into boxing. Andre Ward and Cotto are still getting fat off Roc Nation money and they probably lost more than $30m on both boxers alone.
The only thriving part of Roc Nation Sports is the fact that a few footballers (soccer players) based in England signed with them off Jay’s image.
Movie - the western movie (The Bullitts) that Jay just produced wasn’t his idea - that’s Jeymes Samuel’s (Singer Seal’s bro) baby. He was just lucky to meet Jeymes in London a few years ago (I think it was through Kanye as well) and kept the relationship.
I’m sure all the art stuffs Jay talks about came from Dame because Dame is into arts as well.
You spend money to make money - if they weren’t spending money, Jay wouldn’t have blown up. Spending money is what created the image that made Jay Z.
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Nigerianwonder
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I wish folks would stop repeating this nonsense. Savings from retirement accounts and stock options can be passed down. These are real tangible assets you get from working a 9 to 5. Most companies contribute to retirement accounts too so it multiplies your savings.
A business can be a liability and not always guaranteed to be profitable so what good is handing that down. Its worth nothing. In fact, statistically most black businesses do not have any employees outside the of the owner. How do you pass down a business when you are basically an independent contractor and hustling to get by cause the business depends on you working to exist? You gonna pass down your lash business or incense stand at the flea market? This is the dumb thinking Dame got folks like you believing. Working a stable 9 to 5 to take care of your family is the better option long term for 99% of the population and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
You typed of all that shyt for nothing what does the little film shyt Dame has done have to do with jay-z career, he was able to do that because of Rocafella's success, which is solely because of Jay-Z
50 is more successful than Dame in Tv and Film, Dame isn't successful in that film, he was associated with Paid In Full that's it, that movie came out 20 years ago
how did Dame and Biggs have anything to do with Jay-s image, Biggs was never seen, Dame was just in the background dancing, Jay-Z image came from his bars and he portrayed himself in his rap
Jay-Z was the biggest rapper out before Kanye and Rihanna, they became stars because of Jay-Z not the other way around, if Jay-Z never put the rocafella chain on Kanye he would've been another mos def type rapper not a superstar, if Jay-Z never signed Rihanna and pushed her music, she would be another Super Head, a bytch from barbados getting passed around by the industry nikkaz
Sit yo dumb ass down
Lol. Watch Biggz interview on how he met Jay and who was spending all the money to create the image before he became Jigga.
What are you talking about, Jay-Z aleady had that image that's why Memphis Bleek looked up to him, he said this on Drink Champs, Memphis Bleek use to sell drugs for Jay-Z, what are you talking about, Jay-Z didn't even know Biggs like that
Dame Dash is not a street nikka he grew up in prep school, which is why he stay around white people till this day
Nigerianwonder
Superstar
Name these rappers who were better than Jay? Jay was on tracks with big daddy kane before rocafella was ever a thing. Jay was already plugged in the industry since the 80's and him blowing was just a matter of time cause he was the most talented. Jay is considered the goat rapper by many or top 3 universally. He is not some random rapper.
And objectively Rich paul is not a great agent. He is only where he is cause of Lebron. His track record outside of lebron is shakey. Ask Nerlins Noel (who sued him), KCP and Ben Simmons. He screwed up a lot of dudes money. Any top tier agent would have easily got Lebron more money and success he has today. That's just a fact. Lebron is one in a million talent like Jay.