Dak Prescott signs new deal with cowboys

[feelosofer]

Even if they paid him sooner, he still wasn't going to be worth the contract that he got. That's the problem with paying average level QBs these days "market value" contracts. The worst part about it is that someone average like Dak will eclipse him with an even higher contract. QB salaries are rising higher than any other position in the position.

The excuse is that you pay those guys market value as they are the most important part of the team. But what's the point of being those guys market value contracts if you can't field a winning team around them? You're stuck paying an average QB $35-$40+ million dollars if he can't elevate the team and pieces around him.

I actually think Dak is an above average QB, and prior to getting hurt he was having a career year last season. I think the Cowboys bigger issue is defense. I just don't see the Cowboys committing to sucking which is when they have a shot at winning the division at least over the next 3 years.

 

[L. Deezy]

Dak needs fast starts... all that yardage last year came after teams were in soft coverage.. not mad he back, but the no trade clause means we stuck..

Im already canceling next year. We aint better than the Bucks..

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

I actually think Dak is an above average QB, and prior to getting hurt he was having a career year last season. I think the Cowboys bigger issue is defense. I just don't see the Cowboys committing to sucking which is when they have a shot at winning the division at least over the next 3 years.

Dak was putting up empty garbage time numbers. Don't let the numbers fool you.

I'm not only complaining about Dak, but other average to above average QBs making $35-$40+ million a year who aren't good enough to elevate the team around them. Just because some teams made that same mistake doesn't that others have to repeat it.

 

[Guile]

Lamar needs 140M's guaranteed, though.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Lamar needs 140M's guaranteed, though.

Also means Baker is looking at the same ball park amount as well

 

[Stone]

QBs affect the bottom line, but they also hamstring your salary cap more than any other position depending on the quality of the QB play. Even then, it will become harder to keep the same level of pieces around them once their contract kicks in. It'd be one thing if you had Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes taking up 25% of your cap, but for players like Dak, Cousins and Baker? Nahhhhh.

That's the problem with the QB market as you have middle to below tier QBs resetting the market and getting more money than they deserve. The worst part about it is that their salaries are only going higher and higher which will make it harder to build a winning team around them. It's only so much money and flexibility you can move around before you have to pay the piper. That's what happened with NE this past season and why they had to go with Cam on an incentive laden contract.

The conversation didn't start with Dak and it's not going to end with him as well. The same discussion pertaining to Dak is about to happen with both Baker and Lamar as they are due contract extensions even as they aren't top 10-15 QBs.

The idea is that you move money around and make the right moves with said money and also draft well to field a competitive team. NE is paying the piper NOW but they got 6 chips out of the deal. You can keep pieces around if your scouting/coaching is on point

 

[Rell Lauren]

So, lets act like Mahomes, Watson, and Wilson just didn't get paid breh.

They're all elite. Prescott is marginal to good on his best day. He's already been surpassed by Josh Allen who is figuring it out.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Lamar needs 140M's guaranteed, though.

Perhaps I'm not thinking deep/hard enuff but Lamar needs to postpone signing an extension as long as possible. He needs to the last 2018 QB is sign an ext. He wins a SB win, he might hit at least 49M/year.

 

[Surreal]

Bills, Browns, and Ravens about to get squeezed

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

The idea is that you move money around and make the right moves with said money and also draft well to field a competitive team. NE is paying the piper NOW but they got 6 chips out of the deal. You can keep pieces around if your scouting/coaching is on point

That doesn’t necessarily guarantee you success though as it’s other factors that come into play. Teams move around money all the time, yet still can’t make the playoffs or win a playoff game.

Paying an average to above average QB $35-40+ million dollars isn’t feasible regardless of how you spin it. Philly and the Rams made that same mistake and they both had to eat dead money and cap space just to move on from those deals.

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

Perhaps I'm not thinking deep/hard enuff but Lamar needs to postpone signing an extension as long as possible. He needs to the last 2018 QB is sign an ext. He wins a SB win, he might hit at least 49M/year.

Lamar isn’t winning a SuperBowl next year. I give him all the credit in the world for improving on his passing compared to his time in high school and college.

With that being said, he’s still terrible as a passer and can’t win you a SuperBowl unless he improves on it.

 

[Rell Lauren]

Also means Baker is looking at the same ball park amount as well

If Baker has a 2021 like his 2020 was, he's absolutely getting paid especially if Odell is healthy and helps.

 

[TheKongoEmpire]

Lamar isn’t winning a SuperBowl next year. I give him all the credit in the world for improving on his passing compared to his time in high school and college.

With that being said, he’s still terrible as a passer and can’t win you a SuperBowl unless he improves on it.

Besides Mahomes, name me a better QB that made the playoffs the last three seasons.

 

[Stone]

That doesn’t necessarily guarantee you success though as it’s other factors that come into play. Teams move around money all the time, yet still can’t make the playoffs or win a playoff game.

Paying an average to above average QB $35-40+ million dollars isn’t feasible regardless of how you spin it. Philly and the Rams made that same mistake and they both had to eat dead money and cap space just to move on from those deals.

Success isn’t guaranteed in anything these teams do, it’s part of the game. Somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. If they go try to get a new QB via the draft, whose to say that he gives the same level of production that Dak has given? The odds are against it

it wasn’t just that Wentz and Goff were overpaid, they were legit bad last season. If the Eagles were confident they could get even the 2019 version of wentz he’d still be on the team. And hell the Rams still got to the playoffs and won a game despite Goff not being good. They sought an upgrade, got it and are now one of the favorites to come out of the NFC

 

[Thavoiceofthevoiceless]

If Baker has a 2021 like his 2020 was, he's absolutely getting paid especially if Odell is healthy and helps.

He'll get the bread that he's looking for, but it doesn't mean that he will be worth it.