Dak Prescott signs new deal with cowboys

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You barely gave one that kind of doesn't even count when you think about it..... and that's Flacco.... you haven't given me shyt........ You talking about Cousins had to wait on his money when he got over 60 million guaranteed from that inept ass organization whose name we will not speak of for being wildly average...... who the fukk yall think yall talking to?

Now I can tell your clowning with no thoughts to what you’re saying whatsoever :mjlol:

Players in general hate the franchise tag as it’s not long term guaranteed money. You play under the franchise tag one year and tear your ACL, what do you think will happen? Long term money matters in the NFL. Kirk Cousins had no other choice but to play under the franchise tag. He didn’t do it by choice.

Flacco and Cousins are valid points as they both didn’t get the market value contracts that they were asking for at the time. That was your original premise. I gave you those rebuttals and now you’re still moving goalposts.

Ask Bud Dupree who tore his ACL in his contract year whether he’d want to play under the tag or get long term guaranteed money. Also ask Justin Simmons whose about to get tagged twice whether he’d like a long term deal or not.
 

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QB contracts are just a built in excuse for trash gms’ failures. I’d argue Zeke’s contract is worse

get paid young man.

QBs taking up a larger percentage of a teams salary cap than any other position. So Zeke’s contract is bad, but it won’t compare to the burden on a teams cap like Dak’s contract will.

Average QBs taking up nearly 25% of a teams salary cap isn’t financially feasible these days.
 

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QBs taking up a larger percentage of a teams salary cap than any other position. So Zeke’s contract is bad, but it won’t compare to the burden on a teams cap like Dak’s contract will.
QBs affect the bottom line and are more scarce than RBs so that only makes sense. and if you believe you have a good one it doesn’t really matter what you’re paying him. Money can always be moved around to keep players you want to keep.
 

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QBs affect the bottom line and are more scarce than RBs so that only makes sense. and if you believe you have a good one it doesn’t really matter what you’re paying him. Money can always be moved around to keep players you want to keep.

QBs affect the bottom line, but they also hamstring your salary cap more than any other position depending on the quality of the QB play. Even then, it will become harder to keep the same level of pieces around them once their contract kicks in. It'd be one thing if you had Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes taking up 25% of your cap, but for players like Dak, Cousins and Baker? Nahhhhh.

That's the problem with the QB market as you have middle to below tier QBs resetting the market and getting more money than they deserve. The worst part about it is that their salaries are only going higher and higher which will make it harder to build a winning team around them. It's only so much money and flexibility you can move around before you have to pay the piper. That's what happened with NE this past season and why they had to go with Cam on an incentive laden contract.

The conversation didn't start with Dak and it's not going to end with him as well. The same discussion pertaining to Dak is about to happen with both Baker and Lamar as they are due contract extensions even as they aren't top 10-15 QBs.
 

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QBs affect the bottom line, but they also hamstring your salary cap more than any other position depending on the quality of the QB play. Even then, it will become harder to keep the same level of pieces around them once their contract kicks in. It'd be one thing if you had Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes taking up 25% of your cap, but for players like Dak, Cousins and Baker? Nahhhhh.

That's the problem with the QB market as you have middle to below tier QBs resetting the market and getting more money than they deserve. The worst part about it is that their salaries are only going higher and higher which will make it harder to build a winning team around them. It's only so much money and flexibility you can move around before you have to pay the piper. That's what happened with NE this past season and why they had to go with Cam on an incentive laden contract.

The conversation didn't start with Dak and it's not going to end with him as well. The same discussion pertaining to Dak is about to happen with both Baker and Lamar as they are due contract extensions even as they aren't top 10-15 QBs.
GMs need to stand up to this shyt
 

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GMs need to stand up to this shyt

At some point some GM is going to have to stand up and say no to it.

As I mentioned the other day, The Coli's logic is hypocritical. You can't complain and tell a team to pay a player what the market value says, but then turn around and clown said team and player when the contract doesn't work out. The same dudes tell Dak to get his bread will be the same ones making threads and clown him when he doesn't live up to it. That's Coli logic for you though.
 

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Goff and Wentz didn’t get the benefit of a doubt though when they signed their new deals. Everybody openly complained that their former teams were going to regret those deals. You can even add Cousins and Smith to that list as people were complaining about it when they got it. Flacco too because everybody knew he wasn’t worth the deal he got and was asking for.

Y’all gotta stop thinking that the majority of white people are out here caping for these white QBs getting these mega deals because it’s certainly not the case. Paying too much attention to what white people in the media and ESPN say.

Nah, heard plenty media cats justifying those deals. That's what I'm talking about.

"You gotta have and pay your franchise qb!"
"That's what the market dictates!"

And yeah you right about the media more than fans.

I'm just sick of the fact that all you have to do is show a glimpse of ability and promise and you get the benefit of the doubt in getting paid when you white. Black QBs who ain't exceptional don't get that. I'm hoping Lamar's deal goes smooth because if it were Trubisky who's had Lamar's success and record .....
 

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Nah, heard plenty media cats justifying those deals. That's what I'm talking about.

"You gotta have and pay your franchise qb!"
"That's what the market dictates!"

And yeah you right about the media more than fans.

I'm just sick of the fact that all you have to do is show a glimpse of ability and promise and you get the benefit of the doubt in getting paid when you white. Black QBs who ain't exceptional don't get that. I'm hoping Lamar's deal goes smooth because if it were Trubisky who's had Lamar's success and record .....

I'm referring to people outside of the media who complained about those deals. Look on Profootballtalk and other football websites and see if white people outside of the media weren't complaining about those deals when they happened at the time.

I use Greeny as a case in point to highlight the hypocrisy of the media. One week he on Get Up talking about how terrible the Jets organization was to only be bytching weeks later about how they won two meaningless games.

The same media telling teams to play those players will be same ones on TV doing talk pieces and tweets about how they shouldn't have done the deal and how it's a burden on the teams future.
 

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You know what worse QBs have had more expensive contracts relatively speaking. The biggest mistake is that the Cowboys didn't pay him sooner when he could have cost a lot less.
 

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You know what worse QBs have had more expensive contracts relatively speaking. The biggest mistake is that the Cowboys didn't pay him sooner when he could have cost a lot less.

Even if they paid him sooner, he still wasn't going to be worth the contract that he got. That's the problem with paying average level QBs these days "market value" contracts. The worst part about it is that someone average like Dak will eclipse him with an even higher contract. QB salaries are rising higher than any other position in the position.

The excuse is that you pay those guys market value as they are the most important part of the team. But what's the point of being those guys market value contracts if you can't field a winning team around them? You're stuck paying an average QB $35-$40+ million dollars if he can't elevate the team and pieces around him.
 

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You know what worse QBs have had more expensive contracts relatively speaking. The biggest mistake is that the Cowboys didn't pay him sooner when he could have cost a lot less.
This. They fukked themselves being hesitant when they've never done that before with "other' qbs
 
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