Dak is out, but we in the Fields of play- Dallas Cowboys 2020 season thread

[El Bombi]

nikkas owe me an apology.


https://www.thecoli.com/threads/sti...s-official-2016-war-room-thread.422776/page-4

I was the 1st person talking about drafting Jalen Ramsey since the middle of last season.

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/sti...s-official-2016-war-room-thread.422776/page-7

A non-defensive player with the 4th pick is pure asinine IMO.

Defensive Backs and Defensive Lineman have a way longer shelf life than a Running Back.

Especially when you're picking with the 4th pick.

EX: Darren McFadden, Trent Richardson, Reggie Bush, Ronnie Brown, Cedric Benson.

Damn, it have been a lot more busts in taking a running back in the top 5.

LaDainian Tomlinson is the only one that panned out in the last 15 years.

 

[Dr. Narcisse]

Cowboys really gonna miss out on the QBs, the best OT in years and then draft Mo Claiborne 2.0 in Surtain

 

[BlueHeffner]

See but you're speaking in very strict hypotheticals. You act like we were guaranteed to take Ramsey and henry. I havent read anything that indicated that. They probably wouldve taken jaylon no matter what given the fact they thought he was a huge steal in the 2nd. And yes zeke is underperforming but it's hard for me to look at the injuries we've sustained and his performance prior to this season and come to the conclusion he is washed at 25. We drafted zeke and paid him with the idea that we would have an elite line and run it down teams throats. For the most part, that's exactly what has happened the last 4 years. We lost 3 all-pro lineman this season and starting 2 legit UDFA at tackle, I mean that's the context this dude is just ignoring.

Even if it wasnt a guarantee we take Henry in the 2nd, Id still rather Ramsey over Zeke + Jaylon. It was a huge whiff if we are talking about the value of the pick.

Ramsey is looking like DPOY while Zeke isnt even the best RB in the division right now.

 

[El Bombi]

I get what you're saying but Zeke is just too good to pass up. I personally think it's ridiculous how devalued the RB position has become, especially since teams are losing games because they can't run out the clock.

Nah fukk a run stopper at #4, a #4 DE pick needs to be a run stopper, pass rusher, 15+ sack a year type of player.

This breh was giving me a hard time in the 2016 Draft thread.

Joey Bosa>>>>>>>>>>>Zeke

 

[BlueHeffner]

Cowboys really gonna miss out on the QBs, the best OT in years and then draft Mo Claiborne 2.0 in Surtain

No way we draft Surtain in the top-5. They would take Rousseau or Parsons

 

[El Bombi]

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/sti...s-official-2016-war-room-thread.422776/page-9

No

But Jalen Ramsey was a game changing special teams player at FSU.

We can use him like Darren Woodson and Kam Chancellor on special teams.

This make Jalen Ramsey a way more valuable player than Zeke.

 

[El Bombi]

At some of the responses here. Nikkas is is really comparing Zeke to past bum rbs taken in the top 10. We can do that with any position. Hell, one of our starting corners right now is and he was picked #6 overall.


NFL draft profile: Ohio State RB Ezekiel Elliott, a rare, complete back

Here its basically saying he's the closest we'll see to LT

You was giving me a hard time as well.

 

[Dwight Howard]

Even if it wasnt a guarantee we take Henry in the 2nd, Id still rather Ramsey over Zeke + Jaylon. It was a huge whiff if we are talking about the value of the pick.

Ramsey is looking like DPOY while Zeke isnt even the best RB in the division right now.

Zeke was very critical to our success in previous years though, I cant say that ramsey wouldve won us more games. Again, hindsight is 20/20 though.

 

[jay211]

No way we draft Surtain in the top-5. They would take Rousseau or Parsons

We will be number 3. Because we're going to lose to the Bengals.

 

[Bboystyle]

@BlueHeffner what did i tell ya about MM breh


No way does Jerruh keep him next season as well

 

[Codeine Bryant]

McCarthy is not going anywhere

Jerry not going to pay him to sit at home and collect checks the next 4 years. Plus Dak getting hurt made this season a free pass.

 

[BlueHeffner]

Trade Rayne to the Bears for their first rounder.

At 4 take Wilson and at 12 take Farley or Surtain. Use the money you saved on not having to pay Dak to sign Dalvin Tomlinson and Justin Simmons.

Now you have your two starting corners, a stud at Safety, a stud at DT, and a young QB with upside

 

[lightskin jermaine]

Saleh would be an instant upgrade over boring McCarthy.

 

[dtownreppin214]

Saleh would be an instant upgrade over boring McCarthy.

Meanwhile, we lose one backup DT and everything falls apart.

 

[duckbutta]

Zeke's contract was worth it at the time...he just isn't nearly the same player he was...burst is gone...top end speed doesn't exist...now the question that should be asked is how come the Cowboys didn't anticipate this...cause at the time that is the reason why you wouldn't have paid zeke...

Just like how once we paid him we got an OC who clearly prefers to throw the ball than run it...then you go get a top flight receiving core and that becomes the strength of your team...how come somebody in the front office didn't see this starting to happen and then have those things be the reason why you don't pay Zeke...

Maybe they figured his fall off would happen when his contract was up...but that would be thinking ahead...which is something this front office has proven time and again they can't do.