Curry is on track to surpass MJ, better than Lebron.

[BlueHeffner]

Claiming that Draymond wouldn't be able to start on most teams without Curry is nonsense. A defender of his caliber with 0 offensive skill would still start, and he often benefits his team offensively as well with his passing. Off the top of my head the Celtics, Heat, and Bucks are the only squads that might not have started him this year, depending on how they wanted to play.

Most of the rest of what you say is accurate, and it still adds up to a stacked team.

Steph was an MVP candidate
Wiggins was a legitimate all-star even if he was a weak all-star starter
Draymond was an all-star and DPOY candidate
Klay took time getting back and yet was still a 20ppg scorer and elite shooter
Poole did get hot and was near a 20ppg scorer himself


It wasn't like the Warriors ripped up the league all season, they only won 53 games. But at the end of the year, they had a stacked roster. And the lineups they ended up facing in the West were ass.

Denver with no Murray or MPJ
Memphis with no Ja
Dallas with no Porzingis or Hardaway


Give me a fukking break with that shyt. Golden State was favored by a mile in all three of those matchups.







Your team averaged 92ppg in your 4 Finals losses. That doesn't have jack shyt to do with Curry.

Your team shot 37% with 18 turnovers, 40% with 15 turnovers, 41% with 18 turnovers, and 42% with 22 turnovers in your 4 Finals losses. That doesn't have jack shyt to do with Curry.

Your star player was 24 for 76 (31%) from 2pt range for the series. From TWO-POINT range. That isn't Curry.


Warriors (especially Wiggins and Draymond) played great defense but y'all also screwed the pooch. Curry had a terrific Finals but if y'all hadn't played like ass on offense it would have been a different series.

Denver with no MPJ or Murray is exactly what they were, a 6th-seeded team that was overmatched by a 3-seed.

You would have more of a point if them nikkas were healthy all season and got hurt come playoff time. If they played all season, they wouldnt have been a 6-seed.

Yall nikkas with the juelzing kill me.

Warriors werent fukkin stacked at all. Their 2nd best player in the Finals was a career-bust that had played in 1 playoff series his entire career before he came to play with Steph. Foh

 

[fifth column]

I grew up before MJ was considered GOAT and I don't remember this Russell hype at all.

On the streets in the late 80s / early 90s young people called Magic the GOAT over Bird except for the occasional outlier who reached back for Wilt, Oscar, or Kareem. I'm sure there were people saying Russell too but they would have been old heads.


lol - did some research and managed to find this old-ass internet argument from 1986. It's just two guys but one says Kareem, the other says Wilt. Russell gets a mention too. Of course this is before Magic won his 3 MVPs or his 4th and 5th titles.

MVP (best alltime)

groups.google.com

Here's a reddit thread with a guy born in 1970 who says there was no consensus at all. He says Sports Illustrated in the 1980s used to argue between Magic and Larry, and that Wilt, Russell, and Kareem all got mentioned as the all-time best big but he would have had Kareem by a nose.





Another one of a guy watching '91 footage of Magic announcing AIDS and all the news coverage saying he was the greatest basketball player of all time:





Another saying it was debated between Magic and Bird, with Kareem, Wilt, or Russell all getting lesser consideration:

I agree, I remember Magic being the game’s best player ever before MJ. The goat hype is really an MJ thing and magnified with the rise of Lebron.

 

[Hathaway]

None of this will matter in a few years….. this about to be Zion era and he’ll be better than them all

nikka you don't even believe that shyt.

 

[Osmosis]

They literally ignoring Steph has taken 3 chips off their GOAT, 3

And Isaiah Thomas beat Jordan 3 times too. I guess he’s better than Mike

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Denver with no MPJ or Murray is exactly what they were, a 6th-seeded team that was overmatched by a 3-seed.

You would have more of a point if them nikkas were healthy all season and got hurt come playoff time. If they played all season, they wouldnt have been a 6-seed.

That was my whole point.

He was on here talking about preseason rankings and the Warriors surpassing expectations by beating these teams ranked above them. I pointed out that if their injuries/rosters had been known in the preseason they wouldn't have been ranked above them. No one would have been picking Denver if they knew Murray and MPJ weren't playing all season. No one would have been picking the Lakers if they knew that Bron, AD, and Nunn wouldn't even play 100 games between the three of them. No one had any Finals expectations for Memphis with no Ja, Blazers with no Dame, Pelicans with no Zion, Clippers with no Kawhi/PG13, or that mess of a Dallas roster they finished the season with.

 

[MyApps]

If Curry wins 70+ games and gets a ring that same year, I think he passes LeBron.

If this does occur, he will be the only player with a Unanimous MVP award AND the only player with two 70+ win seasons.

With the way the media is ignoring the warriors in favor of LeBron and KD, I can see it happening. Similar to 2016 warriors, only this time they finish what they started.

 

[Trojan 24]

And Isaiah Thomas beat Jordan 3 times too. I guess he’s better than Mike

Did Isiah win a Unanimous MVP, have 4 chips and make a Andrew Wiggins his Pippen?

 

[Don Homer]

That was my whole point.

He was on here talking about preseason rankings and the Warriors surpassing expectations by beating these teams ranked above them. I pointed out that if their injuries/rosters had been known in the preseason they wouldn't have been ranked above them. No one would have been picking Denver if they knew Murray and MPJ weren't playing all season. No one would have been picking the Lakers if they knew that Bron, AD, and Nunn wouldn't even play 100 games between the three of them. No one had any Finals expectations for Memphis with no Ja, Blazers with no Dame, Pelicans with no Zion, Clippers with no Kawhi/PG13, or that mess of a Dallas roster they finished the season with.

What youre saying STILL makes no sense. Because no matter what happened to other teams, the warriors weren't a stacked team this year. You're claim that steph has only won ONE playoff series without a stacked roster is dumb nikka talk. He just won 4 series without a stacked roster this season. Saying the 2014-15 roster was stacked is dumb nikka shyt also. That was the same roster as the '14 roster, only having Livingston and Barbosa playing significant minutes.

nikka take it up with the GM of the team and Steve Kerr, who both stated this wasnt a championship roster after the season ended

And players on other teams getting hurt doesnt make the warriors a stacked roster. that's fukking stupid.

You pointing out that MPJ and Jamal not playing, Ja getting hurt in the middle of the grizzles getting blown out in the playoffs, and the Mavs without Tim fukking Hardaway doesnt make the warriors a stacked roster. Thats a dumb nikka point

Denver with no MPJ or Murray is exactly what they were, a 6th-seeded team that was overmatched by a 3-seed.

You would have more of a point if them nikkas were healthy all season and got hurt come playoff time. If they played all season, they wouldnt have been a 6-seed.

Yall nikkas with the juelzing kill me.

Warriors werent fukkin stacked at all. Their 2nd best player in the Finals was a career-bust that had played in 1 playoff series his entire career before he came to play with Steph. Foh

@Rhakim making zero fukking sense. No one thinks the Warriors were a stacked roster. They had talent on the roster, but they werent stacked. Everyone agrees this is the least talented Warriors team to win a chip (but they are the most likeable group, and will prolly go down as a fan-favorite team). And if Kerr and the GM of the team are saying they don't think the roster was a championship one, then there's nothing more that needs to be said


Next time tell KD to work on his one-dimensional game. If he could play off the Ball, maybe he would win at least one game and score more efficiently. And if he could play off the ball more, maybe he wouldnt be the ONLY superstar to not have a 40pt game against boston. If he could playmake, maybe the Celtics wouldnt be so eager to double his dumb ass. If he wasnt so weak, maybe tatum, smart, Jaylen brown, and Grant fukking Williams wouldnt be able to easily knock him off his spot.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

And Isaiah Thomas beat Jordan 3 times too. I guess he’s better than Mike

Did Isiah win a Unanimous MVP, have 4 chips and make a Andrew Wiggins his Pippen?

Goddamn y'all too logically incoherent to realize when you sabatoge your own position.

If even an inferior player like Isiah can beat a GOAT like Jordan 3 times, then doesn't it follow that beating a GOAT says nothing regarding whether you're actually better than that GOAT?

 

[KidJSoul]

KAJ was the goat before Jordan.


So the answer is no?

Curry won’t be the goat regardless of rings

Not really

Most thought Russell, Wilt, bird,, magic, etc.

 

[ISO]

Goddamn y'all too logically incoherent to realize when you sabatoge your own position.

If even an inferior player like Isiah can beat a GOAT like Jordan 3 times, then doesn't it follow that beating a GOAT says nothing regarding whether you're actually better than that GOAT?

Yes, but Isiah Thomas was nowhere near Jordan as an individual player.

That is the difference.

 

[Don Homer]

@Rhakim the entire idea that "steph cant win without a stacked roster" is another tryhard attempt to take away from his legacy. Now that he got the FMVP, retard nikkas gotta move the goalpost to something else.

I'd understand if the Warriors had to keep making trades for big stars i'd at least get the argument. But holding it against steph for GSW drafting Poole at number 28 (a pick that NO ONE EVEN AGREED WITH), Draymond at 35 (a fukking 2nd round pick) and Klay at number 11 (toward the end of the lottery) is dumb. You're grasping at straws for anything to downplay steph's greatness. That's what front offices are supposed to do

Literally called "the worst pick in the draft"

 

[Edub]

Negged

 

[Trojan 24]

@Rhakim the entire idea that "steph cant win without a stacked roster" is another tryhard attempt to take away from his legacy. Now that he got the FMVP, retard nikkas gotta move the goalpost to something else.

I'd understand if the Warriors had to keep making trades for big stars i'd at least get the argument. But holding it against steph for GSW drafting Poole at number 28 (a pick that NO ONE EVEN AGREED WITH), Draymond at 35 (a fukking 2nd round pick) and Klay at number 11 (toward the end of the lottery) is dumb. You're grasping at straws for anything to downplay steph's greatness. That's what front offices are supposed to do

Literally called "the worst pick in the draft"

Bron woulda made Poole a Beige Boobie Gibson

 

[jaydawg08]

Bron woulda made Poole a Beige Boobie Gibson

A 3pt specialist who doesn't need alot of room and can work off the dribble? Yeah ok brah, I think that's enough ball talk for you