COZY: BLM leader (Deray) lives in home owned by Soros’ Open Society board member

[theworldismine13]

You have it right up until the bold. To focus on destruction is to focus our oh-so-precious energy in the wrong direction.

We should use our energy to BUILD.

if you build something you have to be able to defend it, unless you want a repeat of black wall street, rosewood etc

if it makes you feel better, you dont actually have to destroy people, you just need a strategic deterrence, in other words you just have to have the ability destroy people and convince people that you are willing to push the button, that is enough

 

[FluffyCorleone]

 

[tmonster]

i am judging him and them by their actions

blm and civil rights relics have convinced and are leading black people in white liberal ideology that says black people need to integrate and march on the streets, that is a lie, no black person in their right mind should pay attention to anything Deray says

black people need to focus on building an economy first, not building your twitter followers and asking white people to be nicer to black people

prove any of the bullshyt you just wrote

 

[tmonster]

I check out as soon as the advice necessitates taking down to black people
usually it's this cat

 

[OsO]

if it makes you feel better, you dont actually have to destroy people, you just need a strategic deterrence, in other words you just have to have the ability destroy people and convince people that you are willing to push the button, that is enough

I agree 100%

 

[theworldismine13]

prove any of the bullshyt you just wrote

just look up any story about deray

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Truth bruh

 

[tmonster]

I ain't lookin' up shyt and

just look up any story about deray

you can't prove shyt
start your own movement for all the shyt you tambout and stop harassing them for doing them

 

[theworldismine13]

I ain't lookin' up shyt and

you can't prove shyt
start your own movement for all the shyt you tambout and stop harassing them for doing them

 

[tmonster]

good job

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

i would ask the inverse, name agroup that has gotten civil rights without having money and power

Inverse? smh.

So it's clear that you're arguing just to argue at this point. You can't answer the question, so your ego has you trying to save face with the inverse question

However, the answer to your question is Black People via the same movement you deem unnecessary lol
Now, answer my question.

For a person that speaks about white liberals money and black folks shouldn't be begging white folks for jobs,
and in the other thread, you mention how black engineers shouldn't be begging white folks too, but you posted a Microsoft Educational opportunity. So isn't that white liberal money?

you build a black economy the same way any economy is built, by establish corporations, banks and trading networks
yeah if its actions toward establishing corporations, banks and trading networks its effective action

Building an economic structure, entrepreneurship, group economics, and black owned banks are default goals that any reasonable person that examines the blueprint followed by "successful" communities will note the significance of these concepts


Your type doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment in people because you repeat generic terms, whether prefixed with black or not, to preach what the goals of the black community should be, while ignoring what should be done in the meantime


Dismissing the importance of addressing social issues like police brutality is counter productive to any type of community building. You telling black folks to build an economic structure, we say...ok understood, but what should be done now in the mean time? and then you repeat...black economics?, that will turn folks away from you and your cause

Thus why I told you about being an adult, goals could be achieved simultaneously

if its protesting in the street about civil rights rights and social justice, its a waste of time
i agree 100% there is no connection between black economics and white liberal funding and lets keep it that way

Again. Who finna be motivated and committed to a cause by you, while you're ignoring black folks getting killed by both cops and other black folks?

im not deflecting anything, im simply stating that i do not believe in intersectionilism, its a stupid white liberal idea that black people need to reject
the point of bring up white funding is that the white people have certain expections of their money and that can influence what the funded entity does
im not sure why that is so hard to understand or why you think black people should make an exception for white liberal funding

More generic terms, mixed with misleading information just to argue. Now intersectionalism is similar to addressing police brutality

Despite posting twice about common sense understanding of the dangers of any person investing time and money into something, you still repeating the same white liberal manipulation chatter

i never agreed that BLM or any other so called black organization funded by white liberals are beneficial too blacks, the most i can say is that they have mixed record
if white liberals stopped funding these organizations that would be a good thing

Show me where I mentioned you claimed black orgs to be beneficial? so why even mention that? oh ok, to just ot have something to say

If white liberals stopped funding it would be a good thing, but in the mean time, what are you suggesting to do about black organizations?

 

[theworldismine13]

Inverse? smh.

So it's clear that you're arguing just to argue at this point. You can't answer the question, so your ego has you trying to save face with the inverse question

i dont have an answer to your question because i 1000 percent dispute the premise of your question

the premise of what im saying is that economics comes first and political power or civil rights comes second,

However, the answer to your question is Black People via the same movement you deem unnecessary lol

im disputing that, economic or miltiary power comes first, then political rights

Now, answer my question.

the answer to your question is that there are no groups that have gotten civil rights or other rights without having an economy first or having military power

For a person that speaks about white liberals money and black folks shouldn't be begging white folks for jobs,
and in the other thread, you mention how black engineers shouldn't be begging white folks too, but you posted a Microsoft Educational opportunity. So isn't that white liberal money?

i posted a job to help people increase their knowledge which will then enable them to work for a corporation, that isnt begging thats simply a mutually beneficial contract

and eventually that knowledge will give said black person the ability to form their own corporation

so the ultimate goal of my post is not a job, its increasing knowledge and the formation of black corporations that compete with Microsoft

white liberal ideas like Affirmative action and diversity programs is begging tho

Building an economic structure, entrepreneurship, group economics, and black owned banks are default goals that any reasonable person that examines the blueprint followed by "successful" communities will note the significance of these concepts

ok and?

you asked me a question and i answered

what does BLM have to do with "Building an economic structure, entrepreneurship, group economics, and black owned banks"

ill answer for you, nothing, that's why BLM is a waste of time

Your type doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment in people because you repeat generic terms, whether prefixed with black or not, to preach what the goals of the black community should be, while ignoring what should be done in the meantime

focusing on economics is what should be done in the meantime, what part of that is it that you dont understand?

Dismissing the importance of addressing social issues like police brutality is counter productive to any type of community building. You telling black folks to build an economic structure, we say...ok understood, but what should be done now in the mean time? and then you repeat...black economics?, that will turn folks away from you and your cause

im not dismissing the importance of police brutality

im dismissing the notion that marching in the streets like blm is a real solution, the answer is in developing our own economy to be able to punish those who brutalize us, economically and politically or militarily

Thus why I told you about being an adult, goals could be achieved simultaneously

but you have to have priorities, economics and money comes first, that has to be the primary goal, politics come second

Again. Who finna be motivated and committed to a cause by you, while you're ignoring black folks getting killed by both cops and other black folks?

im not ignoring cops killing people, i have no idea where you are getting that notion from

im ignoring BLM and its tactics

More generic terms, mixed with misleading information just to argue. Now intersectionalism is similar to addressing police brutality

Despite posting twice about common sense understanding of the dangers of any person investing time and money into something, you still repeating the same white liberal manipulation chatter

yeah and ill post 3 times about

black people should not follow the lead and directions from white liberals

BLM, diversity, intersectionalism and affirmative action is all white liberal gibberish

Show me where I mentioned you claimed black orgs to be beneficial? so why even mention that? oh ok, to just ot have something to say

If white liberals stopped funding it would be a good thing, but in the mean time, what are you suggesting to do about black organizations?

i must of missed something, i thought you were saying that BM was useful and important to black people, but if you agree that BLM is a waste of time and that white liberals should stop funding them then we dont have anything to argue about

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

i dont have an answer to your question because i 1000 percent dispute the premise of your question
the premise of what im saying is that economics comes first and political power or civil rights comes second,
im disputing that, economic or miltiary power comes first, then political rights
the answer to your question is that there are no groups that have gotten civil rights or other rights without having an economy first or having military power

You could depute all day and claim your interpretation of the question, but the facts are that there's a social and judicial penalty when you're violating someone's civil rights

Black folks and women had no military or economic power, so you're wrong

i posted a job to help people increase their knowledge which will then enable them to work for a corporation, that isnt begging thats simply a mutually beneficial contract
and eventually that knowledge will give said black person the ability to form their own corporation
so the ultimate goal of my post is not a job, its increasing knowledge and the formation of black corporations that compete with Microsoft
white liberal ideas like Affirmative action and diversity programs is begging tho

So basically, white liberal funding, which has been around the Black community's education, employment, and politics, could be viewed differently dependent on what message you're trying to convey

Also, such "mutual beneficial contract" could be and has been viewed as diversity initiatives, that folks like yourself, will label as begging the whiteman

ok and?
you asked me a question and i answered
what does BLM have to do with "Building an economic structure, entrepreneurship, group economics, and black owned banks"
ill answer for you, nothing, that's why BLM is a waste of time
focusing on economics is what should be done in the meantime, what part of that is it that you dont understand?

That sentence is to show you that your suggestions are not new and your reasoning lacks the detailed sinew to make your suggestion pragmatic

im not dismissing the importance of police brutality
im dismissing the notion that marching in the streets like blm is not the answer, the answer is in developing our own economy to be able to punish those who brutalize us, economically and politically or militarily

Using generic term as a blanket solution to various problem is dismissing the police brutality. You might as well say, the solution is we need more millionares and billionares

but you have to have priorities, economics and money comes first, that has to be the primary goal, politics come second
im not ignoring cops killing people, i have no idea where you are getting that notion from
im ignoring BLM and its tactics

You contradicted yourself, earlier, you claimed to agree with being an adult and realizing that problems could be addressed without solutions undermining each other, now you talmbot priorities. Which is coded language for ignoring, dismissing, and cheery picking what problems to address

Police killings and police accountability that BLM is tackling has nothing to do with building an economic structure, but you're constantly trying to force a correlation

yeah and ill post 3 times about
black people should not follow the lead and directions from white liberals
BLM, diversity, intersectionalism and affirmative action is all white liberal gibberish

lol. Using the term white liberal selectively, but not with the microsoft job opportunity and education, exposes your self serving tactices
You shouldn't be apart of white liberal structure, but only when it comes to education, employment, politics, and entertainment lol

i must of missed something, i thought you were saying that BM was useful and important to black people, but if you agree that BLM is a waste of time and that white liberals should stop funding them then we dont have anything to argue about

Again. Can't answer direct questions, but instead try poor deflection attempts

 

[theworldismine13]

You could depute all day and claim your interpretation of the question, but the facts are that there's a social and judicial penalty when you're violating someone's civil rights

i never said there wasnt a social and judicial penalty, what i am saying is that we have to develop an economic and military penalty

Black folks and women had no military or economic power, so you're wrong

exactly and that is why black people need to focus on developing military and economic power, hence BLM led by white liberals is a waste of time an energy

So basically, white liberal funding, which has been around the Black community's education, employment, and politics, could be viewed differently dependent on what message you're trying to convey

im not following, so you are saying that a contract with a microsoft corporation is white liberal funding???

Also, such "mutual beneficial contract" could be and has been viewed as diversity initiatives, that folks like yourself, will label as begging the whiteman

you can look at it however you want, but if microsoft is hiring black people as part of a diversity and affirmative action initiative then its begging

That sentence is to show you that your suggestions are not new and your reasoning lacks the detailed sinew to make your suggestion pragmatic

i never said they were new, in fact they go back to marcus garvey, who during his time, as a historical note was beefing with NAACP a white liberal funded organization

what i am saying is that BLM is following the lead of of white liberals instead of focusing on economics as directed by garvey

Using generic term as a blanket solution to various problem is dismissing the police brutality. You might as well say, the solution is we need more millionares and billionares

you asked me a generic question so i gave you a generic answer

and the solution is to have more millionaires and billionaire, that should be the number one goal of black people

developing our economy is the key to gaining the power to punish people that do anything against us

You contradicted yourself, earlier, you claimed to agree with being an adult and realizing that problems could be addressed without solutions undermining each other, now you talmbot priorities. Which is coded language for ignoring, dismissing, and cheery picking what problems to address

i have no idea where you are seeing a contradiction, things can be address simultaneously me but you have to have priorities

by following white liberals and blm black people are not setting priorities properly

Police killings and police accountability that BLM is tackling has nothing to do with building an economic structure, but you're constantly trying to force a correlation

police killings and police accountability are directly related to economics, that is the fundamental thing white liberals and blm lackeys do not understand

social and judicial penalties are not enough

lol. Using the term white liberal selectively, but not with the microsoft job opportunity and education, exposes your self serving tactics

again, im not following how you are connecting a job at microsoft with white liberal funding

You shouldn't be apart of white liberal structure, but only when it comes to education, employment, politics, and entertainment lol

so everything in education, employment, politics and entertainment is ran by white liberals?

Again. Can't answer direct questions, but instead try poor deflection attempts

ive answered all questions, line by line, what is the question that im not answering?

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

i never said there wasnt a social and judicial penalty, what i am saying is that we have to develop an economic and military penalty

"no groups that have gotten civil rights or other rights without having an economy first or having military power"
How does this mean social and judicial penalty?
You already said nobody has civil rights, but now talmbowt bu bu you didn't say....stop it

exactly and that is why black people need to focus on developing military and economic power, hence BLM led by white liberals is a waste of time an energy

You can't agree now, before admitting you were wrong. smh

im not following, so you are saying that a contract with a microsoft corporation is white liberal funding???
you can look at it however you want, but if microsoft is hiring black people as part of a diversity and affirmative action initiative then its begging

It is.
You could spin any funding by a white organization to educate folks to fit a narrative, such as white liberal funding, begging the white man, diversity initiative or conspiracy to manipulate. Which is what you're doing. It's not accurately conveying the situation,you're just on an ego trip

i never said they were new, in fact they go back to marcus garvey, who during his time, as a historical note was beefing with NAACP a white liberal funded organization
what i am saying is that BLM is following the lead of of white liberals instead of focusing on economics as directed by garvey

Stop it. Garvey beef started with Du bios, who worked with the NAACP
Once again, NAACP is not the Urban League. Stop trying to force an agenda on an organization with an already established agenda

you asked me a generic question so i gave you a generic answer
and the solution is to have more millionaires and billionaire, that should be the number one goal of black people
developing out economy is the key to gaining the power to punish people that do anything against us

No. Generic would be asking for solutions to Black folks problem. I specified a problem and you gave a generic answer...again, you should just say we need black billionares

i have no idea where you are seeing a contradiction, things can be address simultaneously me but you ave to have priorities
police killings and police accountability are directly related to economics, that is the fundamental thing white liberals and blm lackeys do not understand

Economics could be tied in with all things, thus why it's a generic answer to a specific question...remove the word economics and put "black billionare" and you will still get the same sense of the answer

again, im not following how you are connecting a job at microsoft with white liberal funding

Any efforts by a white company could be skewed into "begging the whiteman," "white liberal funding" or any other play on racial tensions and egos. You have done so in this thread and the black engineering thread

so everything in education, employment, politics and entertainment is ran by white liberals?

No. But they have large representations of white liberal efforts that your kind will try to dismiss or minimize it, while not providing alternate solutions or funding

ive answered all questions, line by line, what is the question that im not answering?

If white liberals stopped funding it would be a good thing, but in the mean time, what are you suggesting to do about black organizations?