COZY: BLM leader (Deray) lives in home owned by Soros’ Open Society board member

[The Fukin Prophecy]

 

[theworldismine13]

"no groups that have gotten civil rights or other rights without having an economy first or having military power"
How does this mean social and judicial penalty?
You already said nobody has civil rights, but now talmbowt bu bu you didn't say....stop it

that isnt a contradiction, just because there are some social and judicial penalties doesnt mean you have real civil rights

and police brutality is the perfect example, just because there were some civil rights laws passed that imposed some penalties doesnt mean black people have actual civil rights

black people wont have real civil rights until black people have the mechanism to punish people economically and militarily

You can't agree now, before admitting you were wrong. smh

i never agreed that black people had economic power

trying to conflate social or judicial penalties with real economic power is exactly the kind of misguided notions spread by white liberals in the black community

im not contradicting anything ive said because i understand the difference between social penalties and real economic power

It is.
You could spin any funding by a white organization to educate folks to fit a narrative, such as white liberal funding, begging the white man, diversity initiative or conspiracy to manipulate. Which is what you're doing. It's not accurately conveying the situation,you're just on an ego trip

a job is just a contract, its not funding

if you want to spin and conflate a contract with funding thats you

Stop it. Garvey beef started with Du bios, who worked with the NAACP

i only deal with facts
25 Facts about Marcus Mosiah Garvey

16. Garvey had enemies, including J. Edgar Hoover, and, ironically, W.E.B. Du Bois. Du Bois was an integrationist who did not support a separate Black state and repatriation. Du Bois was also opposed to Garvey's association with the Ku Klux Klan, his criticism of "mulatto" leadership, and his belief in Black racial purity. DuBois along with other NAACP members organised the ‘Garvey Must Go' campaign and collude with the US government to have him deported.

Once again, NAACP is not the Urban League. Stop trying to force an agenda on an organization with an already established agenda

i never said the naacp was the urban league, i havent even mentioned the urban league, so i have no idea what you are babbling about

No. Generic would be asking for solutions to Black folks problem. I specified a problem and you gave a generic answer...again, you should just say we need black billionares

police brutality is not specific, police brutality is a general problem that black people have been facing for 400 years starting with the slave patrols

and the solution for it now is the same solution it was 400 years ago, black people have to develop their own economic and military power

Economics could be tied in with all things, thus why it's a generic answer to a specific question

yeah economics can be tied to all things butyou can look at it as one issue out of many, or you can look at it is the primary issue

the fact that i look at it as a primary issue doesnt mean im contradicting myself it just means im disagreeing with you and i have different perspective

this goes to the broader issue of your ridiculous debate method of using the fact that i disagree with you as evidence that im wrong

lets clarify something, you're a retard, you dont set any standards, your opinion is stupid and worthless

...remove the word economics and put "black billionare" and you will still get the same sense of the answer

i agree if you put black billionaire you would get the same sense, so let me repeat, creating black billionaires should be the primary goal of black people

Any efforts by a white company could be skewed into "begging the whiteman," "white liberal funding" or any other play on racial tensions and egos. You have done so in this thread and the black engineering thread

any efforts to hiring a few negroes comply with some social or judicial directive is begging

my post about microsft training is exactly what it is, a post about getting training, the knowledge they gain would put them into high demand and would allow to ener contract negotiations with corporations that want to use that knowledge, that's my POV, i dont consider that to be white liberal funding at all, i consider that to be the opposite

No. But they have large representations of white liberal efforts that your kind will try to dismiss or minimize it, while not providing alternate solutions or funding

exactly, the answer is no

so STFU and stop putting words in my mouth, your arguments are so weak that you have to resort to arguing against things that i may hypothetically say

If white liberals stopped funding it would be a good thing, but in the mean time, what are you suggesting to do about black organizations?

what black organizations are you referring to?

any so called black organization whose primary funding comes from white liberals should shrivel up and die IMO

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

that isnt a contradiction, just because there are some social and judicial penalties doesnt mean you have real civil rights
and police brutality is the perfect example, just because there were some civil rights laws passed that imposed some penalties doesnt mean black people have actual civil rights
black people wont have real civil rights until black people have the mechanism to punish people economically and militarily

So you went from saying "people have no civil rights",
to not being able to answer a question about who has money and power, but no civil rights
to finally, "black folks don't have 'real' civil rights"

All it takes is a few simple questions to expose ego driven nikkas, who hasn't fully thought out an idea, but finna act like they have all the answers

i never agreed that black people had economic power
trying to conflate social or judicial penalties with real economic power is exactly the kind of misguided notions spread by white liberals in the black community
im not contradicting anything ive said because i understand the difference between social penalties and real economic power

You agreed that black folks and women had no military or economic power. But yet they have civil rights. So that directly answers your question of who has civil rights, but not military / economic power. You are wrong.

History has shown that companies/individuals that are not faced with social and judicial penalties when violating civil rights and discriminating, will successfully undermine any efforts to build economical and social structures

So the moment you started to talk shyt about the Civil Rights movement, and the importance of having civil rights, while preaching about building a black economy, I knew you were full of shyt

a job is just a contract, its not funding

if you want to spin and conflate a contract with funding thats you

Nikkas like you have skewed job opportunities as begging to push a narrative
All I'm doing is pointing out how easy it is to skew a white own company's effort for a BS narrative, like you have

Microsoft have presented similar educational opportunities and separate job opportunities to NSBE chapters. Their motives could be viewed as
trying to fit a racial quota,
trying to recruit new talent,
trying to give opportunities to qualified candidates,
or all of the above, or something else

i only deal with facts
25 Facts about Marcus Mosiah Garvey

Facts? lol
You proved my point. How does this link take away from my proper framing of Garvey's issue with Du bois, instead of directly with the NAACP, that Du bois was working with?
More importantly, when examining Garvey's relationship with other organizations, it's misleading to not provide perspective of their difference because Garvey was in the wrong on some of his views too

You're in the wrong for suggesting NAACP being white funded, was the reason for the rift Garvey had with NAACP, while not mentioning Garvey's name calling, associations, ideologies, and other issues that Du bois and other black intellectuals had with Garvey

i never said the naacp was the urban league, i havent even mentioned the urban league, so i have no idea what you are babbling about

Riiiigggghhhhhtttt because BLM's goal should encompass efforts to address economics and not "focus the nation's attention on the plight of the black community"

This is the type of weak rhetoric that the koon Tara Setmayer was trying to use against and got destroyed by Dr. Dyson when he said

You're mad at the NAACP is not the urban league. They all have different reasons and raison d'etre for their existence.

Let us be adults and recognize that goals could be strived for/achieved simultaneously without undermining each other

police brutality is not specific, police brutality is a general problem that black people have been facing for 400 years starting with the slave patrols
and the solution for it now is the same solution it was 400 years ago, black people have to develop their own economic and military power

smh. now police brutality is not a specific Black community plight
Nikka still using generic goals, that has no timeline, no way of measuring success, thus no way of establishing accountability, just to keep arguing

yeah economics can be tied to all things butyou can look at it as one issue out of many, or you can look at it is the primary issue
the fact that i look at it as a primary issue doesnt mean im contradicting myself it just means im disagreeing with you and i have different perspective
this goes to the broader issue of your ridiculous debate method of using the fact that i disagree with you as evidence that im wrong
lets clarify something, you're a retard, you dont set any standards, your opinion is stupid and worthless

lol. Now your bytch azz is on some bu bu it's my opinion/perspective

It has nothing to do with you disagreeing with you, it has to do wit exposing your kind for the fake deep thinker you think you are

Using black-prefixed concepts with generic terms don't mean that you know what you're talmbowt

Decades of folks hearing from lazy fake deep thinkers like you dampens any kind of motivation and commitment because all you're doing is repeating misleading info with generic concepts, while not providing practical short term and long term goals

i agree if you put black billionaire you would get the same sense, so let me repeat, creating black billionaires should be the primary goal of black people

Smart dumb nikka shyt. You are not a black billionaire ,but yet you preaching we need more black billionaires

So imagine the look on a nikka's face when he ask you

what's best way to handle police brutality

awww nikka make more black billionares

any efforts to hiring a few negroes comply with some social or judicial directive is begging

my post about microsft training is exactly what it is, a post about getting training, the knowledge they gain would put them into high demand and would allow to ener contract negotiations with corporations that want to use that knowledge, that's my POV, i dont consider that to be white liberal funding at all, i consider that to be the opposite

I don't give a fawk about your POV, I'm pointing out how lames like you skew situations for a narrative

exactly, the answer is no

so STFU and stop putting words in my mouth, your arguments are so weak that you have to resort to arguing against things that i may hypothetically say

My "weak" arguments have exposed your lack of in-depth understanding with proper reasoning and ego driven rhetoric, while flawlessly mimicking your style of simplified racial summarizing and empty solutions

what black organizations are you referring to?
any so called black organization whose primary funding comes from white liberals should shrivel up and die IMO

More grandstanding and racial based rhetoric

 

[theworldismine13]

So you went from saying "people have no civil rights",

yeah ok

to not being able to answer a question about who has money and power, but no civil rights

i cant answer a question like that because that isnt my argument and its a false premise

my argument is that money and power comes first and then civil rights

to finally, "black folks don't have 'real' civil rights"

yeah, i said that, what is it that im contradicting?

All it takes is a few simple questions to expose ego driven nikkas, who hasn't fully thought out an idea, but finna act like they have all the answers

there is no contradiction in anything im saying, i think you are just confused, lack reading comprehension and are mildly retarded,

You agreed that black folks and women had no military or economic power. But yet they have civil rights.

but i never agreed that black people have civil rights, in fact ive said from the beginning that the civil rights movement was a failure

you are confused and lack reading comprehension

So that directly answers your question of who has civil rights, but not military / economic power. You are wrong.

black people dont have civil rights

History has shown that companies/individuals that are not faced with social and judicial penalties when violating civil rights and discriminating, will successfully undermine any efforts to build economical and social structures

actually history has shown that when companies and individuals are faced with social and judicial penalties violation of civil rights continues unabated

So the moment you started to talk shyt about the Civil Rights movement, and the importance of having civil rights, while preaching about building a black economy, I knew you were full of shyt

the moment you start suggesting that civil rights of black have stopped being violated because of some social and judicial penalities that is when i know you are full of shyt

Nikkas like you have skewed job opportunities as begging to push a narrative
All I'm doing is pointing out how easy it is to skew a white own company's effort for a BS narrative, like you have

all you are doing is trying to put words in my mouth, its the lowest form of argument, its the next to last resort from just pure lies, you arent even arguing about what i said, you are arguing about what you said i said, hypothetically

Microsoft have presented similar educational opportunities and separate job opportunities to NSBE chapters. Their motives could be viewed as
trying to fit a racial quota,
trying to recruit new talent,
trying to give opportunities to qualified candidates,
or all of the above, or something else

yeah and im saying its not important that microsoft present to NSBE chapters, and black people should not try to establish a relationship with microsoft based on social and judicial directives, and it should actually stop

black people should establish relationships with Microsoft that are simply individual, mutually beneficial contracts

Facts? lol

yep facts, the naacp, a white liberal funded "black" organization colluded with the us government to deport garvey

You proved my point.

no i didnt, i proved that the naacp was involved with the deportation of garvey not just du bois

How does this link take away from my proper framing of Garvey's issue with Du bois, instead of directly with the NAACP, that Du bois was working with?

because the link clearly states that is was not just dubois, do you know how to read?

More importantly, when examining Garvey's relationship with other organizations, it's misleading to not provide perspective of their difference because Garvey was in the wrong on some of his views too

that wasnt the subject of this thread, but i wasnt misleading anything, its just a historical fact that dubois and the naacp colluded with the us government ot deport garvey

You're in the wrong for suggesting NAACP being white funded, was the reason for the rift Garvey had with NAACP,

i never said that was the reason, i just stated it as an historical note

and its a simple fact, the naacp and dubois was funded by white people, just like deray

im just stating facts, im sure any intelligent person can put 2 and 2 together

while not mentioning Garvey's name calling, associations, ideologies, and other issues that Du bois and other black intellectuals had with Garvey

yeah so dubois and other black intellectuals who were funded by white liberals had problems with garvey who put black economics first

thats surprising

just like deray has problems with other black people that dont believe in intersectionalism and marching to beg white people to like black people and put economics first

its alll very shocking....and its hard to see the parallels......unless you dont know your history

smh. now police brutality is not a specific Black community plight

police brutality is another problem that arises from the fundamental problem of black people not having an economic base and lacking economic power, its a symptom not a root cause

Nikka still using generic goals, that has no timeline, no way of measuring success, thus no way of establishing accountability, just to keep arguing

yeah definitely its general,

my point of this thread was just stating that BLM is misleading black people by putting black economics as a secondary issue and social activism as primary

of course thats a broad statement

if you want specific answers you have to ask specific questions cuz thats probably another thread in itself

what specifically is it that you want to know about economics?

lol. Now your bytch azz is on some bu bu it's my opinion/perspective

yeah its my opinion, my point was that i am not contradicting myself

my statements have to be consistent with my statements, my statements do not have to consistent with your hypothetical words that you think i would say and they do not have to be consistent with your random thoughts

It has nothing to do with you disagreeing with you, it has to do wit exposing your kind for the fake deep thinker you think you are

i never claimed to be a deep thinker, i claimed to be the God Emperor

Using black-prefixed concepts with generic terms don't mean that you know what you're talmbowt

and speaking nonsensical gibberish means you are just an idiot

Decades of folks hearing from lazy fake deep thinkers like you dampens any kind of motivation and commitment because all you're doing is repeating misleading info with generic concepts, while not providing practical short term and long term goals

im explaining it very simply, black people should put economics first and social activism second

its white liberals and the blm lackeys who are misleading black people into putting social activism first and economics second

i have no idea what specifics you need, but if you want specifics you need to ask specific questions

Smart dumb nikka shyt. You are not a black billionaire ,but yet you preaching we need more black billionaires

im not understanding why i need to to be black billionaire to call for more black billionaires

So imagine the look on a nikka's face when he ask you

what's best way to handle police brutality

awww nikka make more black billionares

yeah pretty much, black people that are concerned about police brutality can march on the street for some emotional release but the real question they need to ask ask themselves is, what is their credit score, how many stocks they own, how much real estate do they own and how many business do they own and how many black business do you patronize, do they know who garvey is?

if people dont have good answers to those questions then they need to change and fix something before they go around following white liberals and their blm lackeys

because economics comes first, social activism is second

I don't give a fawk about your POV, I'm pointing out how lames like you skew situations for a narrative

ok, thanks for sharing your thoughts with me

My "weak" arguments have exposed your lack of in-depth understanding with proper reasoning and ego driven rhetoric, while flawlessly mimicking your style of simplified racial summarizing and empty solutions

your basic argument is that black people should ignore the fact that a white liberal is funding blm

lets marinate on that

More grandstanding and racial based rhetoric

im the God Emperor, thats what I do

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

yeah ok
i cant answer a question like that because that isnt my argument and its a false premise
my argument is that money and power comes first and then civil rights
yeah, i said that, what is it that im contradicting?
there is no contradiction in anything im saying, i think you are just confused, lack reading comprehension and are mildly retarded
but i never agreed that black people have civil rights, in fact ive said from the beginning that the civil rights movement was a failure
you are confused and lack reading comprehension
black people dont have civil rights

Claim other folks don't have reading comprehension and is retard while not applying the rules of periods, conjunction and proposition while reading brehs
After getting exposed for falsely claiming black folks don't have civil rights, now use open ended words like "real," to keep arguing brehs

You making moves, but you ain't making "real" moves
You fawking bytches, but you ain't fawking "real" bytches
You getting payed, but you ain't "really" getting payed

actually history has shown that when companies and individuals are faced with social and judicial penalties violation of civil rights continues unabated

Riiigggghhhhhttttt, because many companies and individual that actively violate civil rights and discriminates are getting more business

the moment you start suggesting that civil rights of black have stopped being violated because of some social and judicial penalities that is when i know you are full of shyt

Did I say this before or after defending BLM's efforts to address police killings, accountablity and violation of black folks civil rights?

all you are doing is trying to put words in my mouth, its the lowest form of argument, its the next to last resort from just pure lies, you arent even arguing about what i said, you are arguing about what you said i said, hypothetically

I'm exposing you for arbitrarily using racially prefixed terms and concepts without in dept understanding of history and current events

yeah and im saying its not important that microsoft present to NSBE chapters, and black people should not try to establish a relationship with microsoft based on social and judicial directives, and it should actually stop
black people should establish relationships with Microsoft that are simply individual, mutually beneficial contracts

What I'm pointing out to you is that your kind has / will continue to arbitrarily use racially tone words when it fits your narrative. Providing facts and proper context is not your motivation

yep facts, the naacp, a white liberal funded "black" organization colluded with the us government to deport garvey
no i didnt, i proved that the naacp was involved with the deportation of garvey not just du bois
because the link clearly states that is was not just dubois, do you know how to read?
that wasnt the subject of this thread, but i wasnt misleading anything, its just a historical fact that dubois and the naacp colluded with the us government ot deport garvey
i never said that was the reason, i just stated it as an historical note
and its a simple fact, the naacp and dubois was funded by white people, just like deray
im just stating facts, im sure any intelligent person can put 2 and 2 together
yeah so dubois and other black intellectuals who were funded by white liberals had problems with garvey who put black economics first
thats surprising
just like deray has problems with other black people that dont believe in intersectionalism and marching to beg white people to like black people and put economics first
its alll very shocking....and its hard to see the parallels......unless you dont know your history

A simple example of the Garvey and Du bois disagreement shows how important it is that folks do their own research and strive for facts to understand. Because their are agent-like members in the black community that are self serving and cares more about finding facts that fit their narrative, than providing facts for clarification and thorough understanding

Du bois - Garvey's relationship and their interpretation of the problems and solutions to the black plight, needs to be factored into the discussion because both considered themselves leaders with a solid plan.
Imagine if both men got along, then they spoke at an event, despite having their own interpretation of the best solutions for the black plight, the false narrative could be the NAACP and UNIA worked together to help black folks

The only reason you mentioned NAACP is because they were/are white liberal funded org, so any perceived manipulation could support your claims of BLM's being manipulated; again trying to use facts to fit a narrative

NAACP manipulated Du bois to go against Garvey. That could be absolutely correct Or absolutely wrong

"Members of an organization" doesn't equate to "board members, leadership, financiers"
Unless you could provide advertisements that had NAACP sponsored events that is Anti-Garvey, then it's irresponsible to try to implicitly claim that due to white liberal funding, the NAACP manipulated Du bois to have problems with Garvey

police brutality is another problem that arises from the fundamental problem of black people not having an economic base and lacking economic power, its a symptom not a root cause

Police brutality is a symptom of various things like white supremacy, lack of political clout, black folks' lack of courage, poor local community/police relationship or lack of economic power. So it's stupid to constantly use a generic concept as a blanket solution and to measure whether the "real" aspect of a goal has been achieved

yeah definitely its general,
my point of this thread was just stating that BLM is misleading black people by putting black economics as a secondary issue and social activism as primary
of course thats a broad statement
if you want specific answers you have to ask specific questions cuz thats probably another thread in itself
what specifically is it that you want to know about economics?

Proved my point again about using facts to fit your narrative

At no point has BLM mention that black folks should just focus on activism and disregard any other cause. That is your skewing of their agenda to fit your narrative
Like Dr. Dyson said, NAACP is not the Urban League. Two different agendas and two approaches, no need to undermine each other for each to succeed

So you should be in your own economic lane, but instead you need to shyt on another effort to prop your effort higher. That's why I keep asking you to be an adult, stop the childish ways and ego tripping

yeah its my opinion, my point was that i am not contradicting myself
my statements have to be consistent with my statements, my statements do not have to consistent with your hypothetical words that you think i would say and they do not have to be consistent with your random thoughts
i never claimed to be a deep thinker, i claimed to be the God Emperor
and speaking nonsensical gibberish means you are just an idiot

I expose you as just talking out your azz and trying to blindly support a narrative, which your newly found bu bu it's my opinion stance has proven

My "opinions" are totally based in facts about the Civil Rights movement, BLM efforts and funding, and the Black community's short term and long term goals

im explaining it very simply, black people should put economics first and social activism second
its white liberals and the blm lackeys who are misleading black people into putting social activism first and economics second
i have no idea what specifics you need, but if you want specifics you need to ask specific questions

NAACP is not the Urban League
Give us the lectures or agenda that mentions BLM actively putting economics last OR even mentioning economics?
Why aren't you creating a different movement without trying to rewrite another movement's agenda?

im not understanding why i need to to be black billionaire to call for more black billionaires

smh. Because the basic question is, if a black billionare is important, why aren't you a black billionare?
If health is so important, then why aren't you healthy?
if education is so important, then why are you educated?

in other words, actions and information inspires motivation and commitment. Not just empty words, with loose end goals and generic concepts

yeah pretty much, black people that are concerned about police brutality can march on the street for some emotional release but the real question they need to ask ask themselves is, what is their credit score, how many stocks they own, how much real estate do they own and how many business do they own and how many black business do you patronize, do they know who garvey is?
if people dont have good answers to those questions then they need to change and fix something before they go around following white liberals and their blm lackeys
because economics comes first, social activism is second
ok, thanks for sharing your thoughts with me

Every question you posted is what responsible and informed adult that are citizens will do, regardless of race
You could answer all those questions and support BLM. Trying to undermine other efforts to prop your own up is childish and ego tripping

Like knowing who Garvey is will suddenly spark motivation and commitment. His story has been around since the early 20th century breh

Prefixing the word black on concepts, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Having a good credit score, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Black skin, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Labeling with terms like "whiteman begging", "white liberal funding," doesn't spark motivation and commitment

your basic argument is that black people should ignore the fact that a white liberal is funding blm
lets marinate on that
im the God Emperor, thats what I do

Once again, this discussion is becoming repetitive

Remove Black folks, Soros, and Jews from the discussion. Any person investing time and money into another person, group, or ideology, they are expecting some kind of return, in the form of more money, endorphin, , enlightenment, karma, poosay, stronger network connection

Just because folks are not as dismissive as you are towards BLM due to Soros' position, doesn't mean they don't understand the possible consequences of manipulation via a long term agenda
Not all facts are equally pertinent at every moment of analysis

If you not offering alternate orgs or funding, then labeling with terms like "whiteman begging", "white liberal funding," doesn't spark motivation and commitment

Action and information sparks motivation and commitment

 

[theworldismine13]

Claim other folks don't have reading comprehension and is retard while not applying the rules of periods, conjunction and proposition while reading brehs
After getting exposed for falsely claiming black folks don't have civil rights, now use open ended words like "real," to keep arguing brehs

and i stand by my assertion that black people do not have civil rights, i have no idea where you exposed that that assertion is false, i must have missed it

You making moves, but you ain't making "real" moves
You fawking bytches, but you ain't fawking "real" bytches
You getting payed, but you ain't "really" getting payed

ok, sure

Riiigggghhhhhttttt, because many companies and individual that actively violate civil rights and discriminates are getting more business

dont know what that means

Did I say this before or after defending BLM's efforts to address police killings, accountablity and violation of black folks civil rights?

so you are saying that police are killing black people, and their rights are being violated but black people still have civil rights, is that what you are saying?

I'm exposing you for arbitrarily using racially prefixed terms and concepts without in dept understanding of history and current events

no you are not, you ran out of arguments so you had to make up words that i said

What I'm pointing out to you is that your kind has / will continue to arbitrarily use racially tone words when it fits your narrative. Providing facts and proper context is not your motivation

i have no idea what "arbitrarily use racially tone words when it fits your narrative" means

but lets say that is what im doing, so what?

A simple example of the Garvey and Du bois disagreement shows how important it is that folks do their own research and strive for facts to understand. Because their are agent-like members in the black community that are self serving and cares more about finding facts that fit their narrative, than providing facts for clarification and thorough understanding

Du bois - Garvey's relationship and their interpretation of the problems and solutions to the black plight, needs to be factored into the discussion because both considered themselves leaders with a solid plan.
Imagine if both men got along, then they spoke at an event, despite having their own interpretation of the best solutions for the black plight, the false narrative could be the NAACP and UNIA worked together to help black folks

The only reason you mentioned NAACP is because they were/are white liberal funded org, so any perceived manipulation could support your claims of BLM's being manipulated; again trying to use facts to fit a narrative

NAACP manipulated Du bois to go against Garvey. That could be absolutely correct Or absolutely wrong

"Members of an organization" doesn't equate to "board members, leadership, financiers"
Unless you could provide advertisements that had NAACP sponsored events that is Anti-Garvey, then it's irresponsible to try to implicitly claim that due to white liberal funding, the NAACP manipulated Du bois to have problems with Garvey

none of this gibberish you wrote retorts a well known historical fact, dubois and the NAACP who were funded by white liberals colluded with the government to deport the Honorable Marcus Garvey

and yes i use facts to fit my narrative


im weird like that, im not like you. i dont put words in people's mouths and then try to argue with made up arguments, i only use facts

Police brutality is a symptom of various things like white supremacy, lack of political clout, black folks' lack of courage, poor local community/police relationship or lack of economic power. So it's stupid to constantly use a generic concept as a blanket solution and to measure whether the "real" aspect of a goal has been achieved

the foundation of white supremacy is the white/european economy, if not for that white supremacy wouldnt matter and nobody would care if white people thought they were superior

the lack of political clout comes from not having the economic base to manipulate politics

the lack of courage comes from black people being dependent on the white economy and to afraid to lose their jobs and other crumbs

poor local community/police relationship is because the police get paid by the white economy and not by black people, the police serve their pay masters not the community they are policing

so in the end its all about economics

Proved my point again about using facts to fit your narrative

yes i use facts to fit my narrative

At no point has BLM mention that black folks should just focus on activism and disregard any other cause.

i didnt say that blm tells black people to disregard other causes, i said blm priorities are wrong because their priorities are set by white liberals

That is your skewing of their agenda to fit your narrative

this is you just making up shyt and arguing against the shyt you made up

Like Dr. Dyson said, NAACP is not the Urban League. Two different agendas and two approaches, no need to undermine each other for each to succeed

if they are funded by white liberals then it does need to be undermined

So you should be in your own economic lane, but instead you need to shyt on another effort to prop your effort higher. That's why I keep asking you to be an adult, stop the childish ways and ego tripping

im being an adult, and im aware of people using distractions to mislead black people

I expose you as just talking out your azz and trying to blindly support a narrative, which your newly found bu bu it's my opinion stance has proven

my statements have not been contradictory and they are all based on facts

dera and blm is funded by white liberals
blm puts social activism above economics
dubois and the naacp who were funded by white liberals colluded with the us government to deport garvey who put economics first
you are attacking the God Emperor aka the Humble African for putting economics first and saying we should ignore white liberal funding

ill let the illustrious posters of this message board put 2 and 2 together, i dont gotta say no more

My "opinions" are totally based in facts about the Civil Rights movement, BLM efforts and funding, and the Black community's short term and long term goals

your opinion is that black people should ignore the fact that blm is funded by white liberals just like we ignored that white liberals were funding dubois and the naacp to collude with the us government to deport the honorable Marcus Garvey

lets marinate on this

NAACP is not the Urban League

ok, that's nice but who is funding the urban league?

Give us the lectures or agenda that mentions BLM actively putting economics last OR even mentioning economics?

this is the typical attitude from white funded blm people





like you he plays down economics and focuses on social activism and begging white people to stop hating people

Why aren't you creating a different movement without trying to rewrite another movement's agenda?

i dont need to create another movement, i follow the garvey movement, we still outchea even though you and your white liberal friends tried to stop us

smh. Because the basic question is, if a black billionare is important, why aren't you a black billionare?

im trying, trying is what is important

If health is so important, then why aren't you healthy?
if education is so important, then why are you educated?

as long as you are trying to get healthy and educated its all good

in other words, actions and information inspires motivation and commitment. Not just empty words, with loose end goals and generic concepts

marcus garvey inspired a lot of people and still does, and he did not have loose end goals or generics concepts

Every question you posted is what responsible and informed adult that are citizens will do, regardless of race

and?

You could answer all those questions and support BLM. Trying to undermine other efforts to prop your own up is childish and ego tripping

yeah i didnt say you couldnt, what i said its important to get your economics straight first and then go march in the street, economics comes first social activism second

Like knowing who Garvey is will suddenly spark motivation and commitment. His story has been around since the early 20th century breh

yeah knowing about garvey will motivate people, a lot of people dont know about garvey

Prefixing the word black on concepts, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Having a good credit score, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Black skin, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Labeling with terms like "whiteman begging", "white liberal funding," doesn't spark motivation and commitment

ok

Once again, this discussion is becoming repetitive

it is and let me repeat again, your argument is that we should ignore the white liberal funding of blm just like we ignored the white liberal funding of dubois and the naacp that colluded with the us government to deport garvey

and we need to analyze your motivations that make you so adamant that we need to ignore soros funding blm and write essays about how much we need him and how the world will come to an end without white liberal money

why are you so adamant about white liberal money? inquiring minds would like to know

If you not offering alternate orgs or funding, then labeling with terms like "whiteman begging", "white liberal funding," doesn't spark motivation and commitment

Action and information sparks motivation and commitment

i have alternate orgs and funding, they are called Deez Nuts

 

[Isaiah Bradley]

and i stand by my assertion that black people do not have civil rights, i have no idea where you exposed that that assertion is false, i must have missed it
ok, sure
dont know what that means

And for the last time, you're wrong. Black folks have civil rights

Go use the "real" rhetoric for someone who doesn't think for self

so you are saying that police are killing black people, and their rights are being violated but black people still have civil rights, is that what you are saying?

wow, I didn't realize I would need to explain this
Actively protesting rights infringement, doesn't mean you don't have the right

Protesting gun ownership infringement, doesn't mean you don't have the right to own guns
Protesting freedom of speech infringement, doesn't mean you don't have the right to freedom of speech
Protesting freedom of the press, doesn't mean that the press doesn't have have the freedom to report what they want

no you are not, you ran out of arguments so you had to make up words that i said
i have no idea what "arbitrarily use racially tone words when it fits your narrative" means
but lets say that is what im doing, so what?

All it means is that you're manipulative for the sole purpose of pushing a narrative
Such a person nobody could trust or build with because you use racial tensions and blind ignorance as your means to push a narrative, not to solve a problem

none of this gibberish you wrote retorts a well known historical fact, dubois and the NAACP who were funded by white liberals colluded with the government to deport the Honorable Marcus Garvey

and yes i use facts to fit my narrative


im weird like that, im not like you. i dont put words in people's mouths and then try to argue with made up arguments, i only use facts
the foundation of white supremacy is the white/european economy, if not for that white supremacy wouldnt matter and nobody would care if white people thought they were superior
the lack of political clout comes from not having the economic base to manipulate politics
the lack of courage comes from black people being dependent on the white economy and to afraid to lose their jobs and other crumbs
poor local community/police relationship is because the police get paid by the white economy and not by black people, the police serve their pay masters not the community they are policing
so in the end its all about economics

"members of the NAACP" now means the entire NAACP?
They could've just said the NAACP, but they specified members to distinguish from the organization

So the actions of members of an organization, regardless of their role and activitiy within the org, represent the entire organization

I guess the BLM shot those cops too then
So a member of the electric union murks his fam, it was the union that did it
Cop kills someone, it was the entire police department that killed that person

Lol. So the police is paid by a white economy that consist of both whites and non-whites, called tax payers

Suggestion for you, use your racial rhetoric against a lazy thinker to inaccurately portray something

yes i use facts to fit my narrative

You finally admits it. You're pushing a narrative
I finna use facts to provide proper context, clarity and understanding, that empowers an individual to think for self

i didnt say that blm tells black people to disregard other causes, i said blm priorities are wrong because their priorities are set by white liberals
this is you just making up shyt and arguing against the shyt you made up
if they are funded by white liberals then it does need to be undermined
im being an adult, and im aware of people using distractions to mislead black people

Again, you should be in your own economic lane, but instead you need to shyt on another effort to prop your effort higher
That's why I keep asking you to be an adult, stop the childish ways and ego tripping

You have no facts whether the Soros' provided BLM an agenda
OR
whether BLM provided the financiers with an agenda
Your entire argument is based on purely assumptions, speculations, and stereotype

A few BLM spokesmen are already gay themselves, it only makes sense that they are also active in gay matters too

This is why you constantly use racial terms because you think you're talking with someone that blindly follows assumptions/stereotypes based on labels. The same labeling tactic you're using, is the same tactic used by too many non-black folks against blacks folks

try again

my statements have not been contradictory and they are all based on facts
dera and blm is funded by white liberals
blm puts social activism above economics
dubois and the naacp who were funded by white liberals colluded with the us government to deport garvey who put economics first
you are attacking the God Emperor aka the Humble African for putting economics first and saying we should ignore white liberal funding
ill let the illustrious posters of this message board put 2 and 2 together, i dont gotta say no more

Repeating something doesn't mean you're correct
Arbitrarily using racial labels to evoke a pattern of thinking based on stereotypes and assumptions, doesn't mean you're correct
Misrepresenting my stance, doesn't mean you're correct
Clearly, an independent thinker is your kryptonite

your opinion is that black people should ignore the fact that blm is funded by white liberals just like we ignored that white liberals were funding dubois and the naacp to collude with the us government to deport the honorable Marcus Garvey

lets marinate on this

lets marinate on your need to misrepresent my stance and history, after admitting to trying to encourage a certain narrative

ok, that's nice but who is funding the urban league?

deflection fail. That's not even the point. How many times do I have to repeat the meaning of the quote for you to understand?

this is the typical attitude from white funded blm people


like you he plays down economics and focuses on social activism and begging white people to stop hating people

lol. you just ether yourself
In a seperate discussion, a rich black person will be considered a target too under white supremacy

He admitted the importance of wealth building and specified the lack of an economic component within BLM
So again, why are you trying to add on to their agenda instead of doing your own thang, everyone has their own lane

Why is that so difficult for you to understand

i dont need to create another movement, i follow the garvey movement, we still outchea even though you and your white liberal friends tried to stop us

You can't be doing much cause you're busy trying to shyt on a movement that has to do with you
While these BLM are on the front line, you stay at home plotting your loose end goals

im trying, trying is what is important
as long as you are trying to get healthy and educated its all good
marcus garvey inspired a lot of people and still does, and he did not have loose end goals or generics concepts

Trying to mislead and misrepresent is all you're doing
Save all that moral victory BS with "bu bu I'm trying"

Nikkas are fed up of hearing from your kind about the "whiteman" and speeches about "the dangers of white liberals" that's not complimented by actions, achievements, and practical short/long term goals
Telling a nikka to go make a billionare to combat police brutality, you just permanently lost soldier

and?
yeah i didnt say you couldnt, what i said its important to get your economics straight first and then go march in the street, economics comes first social activism second
yeah knowing about garvey will motivate people, a lot of people dont know about garvey
ok

And your need to change the agenda of an organization is unnecesaary
And getting your economics right, regardless of protesting or not, is what responsible citizens do, regardless of color
And don't get it twisted, Marcus Garvey was a great man, leader and I'm a strong believer in his efforts and philosophies towards uprooting white supremacy. But knowing his history doesn't spark motivation and commitment because of the realities of folks' lives now

Mariante on these realities...
Black history has been available, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Black struggle has been portrayed, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Prefixing the word black on concepts, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Having a good credit score, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Black skin, doesn't spark motivation and commitment
Labeling with terms like "whiteman begging", "white liberal funding," doesn't spark motivation and commitment

it is and let me repeat again, your argument is that we should ignore the white liberal funding of blm just like we ignored the white liberal funding of dubois and the naacp that colluded with the us government to deport garvey
and we need to analyze your motivations that make you so adamant that we need to ignore soros funding blm and write essays about how much we need him and how the world will come to an end without white liberal money

why are you so adamant about white liberal money? inquiring minds would like to know

whattahfail

i have alternate orgs and funding, they are called Deez Nuts

no alternate orgs to suggest + no funding to offer + racial labels = stereotypical black militant

 

[EndDomination]

Fixed for accuracy

Like?

 

[EndDomination]

I rented out a house last semester that was owned by the millionaire children of an old railroad baron here in Ohio.
I guess that makes me part of the old US Capitalist regime, eh?
nikkas really are that shocked that a rich guy on a board with other rich people, owns a house

 

[EndDomination]

the dude who turned in his very own people to the nazis is now gonna dap it up and put a fist in the air with Negros and save us all

wow.... even the brothers grimm couldnt dream up that fairytale

Be lazy with history brehs.

 

[EndDomination]

Not surprising

How do you think a group of hash tagtivists got meetings with the POTUS, Attorney General, etc after only a couple years on the scene?

The same way most small-time activists get to meet with major political leaders here in the US, you gain traction, mass-media support, including acknowledgment from all over the world, you commit to a solid plan, etc.
shyt, me and a bunch of other 17 year olds met with a bunch of Congresspeople when we were trying to run some weak "clean-water initiative" with a few teachers from Western Reserve Academy.
What the fukk did most of y'all do in high school and college where this seems far-fetched.

 

[ⒶⓁⒾⒶⓈ]

Be lazy with history brehs.

*Irony*

I posted the FULL interview where he spoke on that and the TRANSCRIPT in this very thread.....but you just glossed over them

who is the lazy one again

 

[ill]

Be lazy with history brehs.

He's not lazy with history. Soros sold out his own Jews to get ahead. Soros himself stated in a 60 minutes interview that when he was 14 years old, he pretended to be a Christian so the Nazi's wouldn't get him. He proceeded to confiscate property from his fellow Jews. He was a Nazi collaborator of the worst kind.

 

[ill]

@Thomas You can try to find the youtube but heres the transcript from that interview.

Spoiler: Soros is scum

This is the relevant portion of the transcript (from the 20 December 1998 broadcast of 60 Minutes):

Quote:
KROFT: (Voiceover) To understand the complexities and contradictions in his personality, you have to go back to the very beginning: to Budapest, where George Soros was born 68 years ago to parents who were wealthy, well-educated and Jewish.

When the Nazis occupied Budapest in 1944, George Soros' father was a successful lawyer. He lived on an island in the Danube and liked to commute to work in a rowboat. But knowing there were problems ahead for the Jews, he decided to split his family up. He bought them forged papers and he bribed a government official to take 14-year-old George Soros in and swear that he was his Christian godson. But survival carried a heavy price tag. While hundreds of thousands of Hungarian Jews were being shipped off to the death camps, George Soros accompanied his phony godfather on his appointed rounds, confiscating property from the Jews.

(Vintage footage of Jews walking in line; man dragging little boy in line)

KROFT: (Voiceover) These are pictures from 1944 of what happened to George Soros' friends and neighbors.

(Vintage footage of women and men with bags over their shoulders walking; crowd by a train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) You're a Hungarian Jew...

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

KROFT: (Voiceover) ...who escaped the Holocaust...

(Vintage footage of women walking by train)

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Mm-hmm.

(Vintage footage of people getting on train)

KROFT: (Voiceover) ... by -- by posing as a Christian.

Mr. SOROS: (Voiceover) Right.

(Vintage footage of women helping each other get on train; train door closing with people in boxcar)

KROFT: (Voiceover) And you watched lots of people get shipped off to the death camps.

Mr. SOROS: Right. I was 14 years old. And I would say that that's when my character was made.

KROFT: In what way?

Mr. SOROS: That one should think ahead. One should understand and -- and anticipate events and when -- when one is threatened. It was a tremendous threat of evil. I mean, it was a -- a very personal experience of evil.

KROFT: My understanding is that you went out with this protector of yours who swore that you were his adopted godson.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. Yes.

KROFT: Went out, in fact, and helped in the confiscation of property from the Jews.

Mr. SOROS: Yes. That's right. Yes.

KROFT: I mean, that's -- that sounds like an experience that would send lots of people to the psychiatric couch for many, many years. Was it difficult?

Mr. SOROS: Not -- not at all. Not at all. Maybe as a child you don't -- you don't see the connection. But it was -- it created no -- no problem at all.

KROFT: No feeling of guilt?

Mr. SOROS: No.

KROFT: For example that, 'I'm Jewish and here I am, watching these people go. I could just as easily be there. I should be there.' None of that?

Mr. SOROS: Well, of course I c -- I could be on the other side or I could be the one from whom the thing is being taken away. But there was no sense that I shouldn't be there, because that was -- well, actually, in a funny way, it's just like in markets -- that if I weren't there -- of course, I wasn't doing it, but somebody else would -- would -- would be taking it away anyhow. And it was the -- whether I was there or not, I was only a spectator, the property was being taken away. So the -- I had no role in taking away that property. So I had no sense of guilt.

 

[FAH1223]

The same way most small-time activists get to meet with major political leaders here in the US, you gain traction, mass-media support, including acknowledgment from all over the world, you commit to a solid plan, etc.
shyt, me and a bunch of other 17 year olds met with a bunch of Congresspeople when we were trying to run some weak "clean-water initiative" with a few teachers from Western Reserve Academy.
What the fukk did most of y'all do in high school and college where this seems far-fetched.

Meeting with people in Congress is one thing

But POTUS? That quickly?

Nah G

There's Soros cash involved