COZY: BLM leader (Deray) lives in home owned by Soros’ Open Society board member

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civil rights are mostly ineffective, lobbying groups are effective, the effectiveness you see does not come from begging it comes from the money being spread

i would put peta and gay rights groups in the same category as the NRA and AIPAC

money is what makes the difference not emotion and begging

lmao. Continue to preach about money and power while branding efforts to protect individual freedom from social and legislative discrimination by people with money and power, as ineffective and begging brehs

yeah, what is the the contradiction?
are you equating money from soros with black economic power?
The contradiction is your generic calls for power and money, while ignoring the current lack of interest to replace the coins of a billionaire that's funding a group that's fighting against one plight of your community

Black economic power doesn't materialize just because of your skin color, you need to motivate the masses by action and information
A good start would be to at least start funding efforts that support your community


its not BLM's goal that should focus on economics, its black people, BLM could do whatever the hell it wants
my point about the BLM is asking whose idea and when did we agree that we should be trying to "focus the nation's attention on the plight of the black community"
that framing is a white liberal framing and people that get funded by white liberals like deray will push it on black people
Riiigggghhhhtttt the idea to shed light on a cause inorder to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits was the brainchild of the liberal mastermind Soros cause no black person, religious person, gay person, or animal advocate would consider doing such a thing. smh



definitely agree with that, all black people should be striving for goals without undermining each other
how does pointing out the pernicious nature of white supremacist liberals funding black groups undermine black people?
i am helping black people as far as i am concerned
White supremacist liberal and blatant racist funding of black education, employment, insurance etc is nothing new and will continue to happen

You're not the first or the last to point out the possible dangers of manipulation from outside money, while ignoring where the lack of money is coming from

Ideally, I would've hoped once black folks utilize the resources funded by white supremacist liberals and blatant racist, then they would overwhelmingly fund orgs/individuals who are following an unapologetic black agenda, history and thecoli tells me that cycle doesn't happen


good, i just wanted a clarification and on the record that your position is that you think we should ignore that a white supremacist liberal is funding BLM
i rest my case
ok. You call it ignoring, I call it maintaining perspective
 

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lmao. Continue to preach about money and power while branding efforts to protect individual freedom from social and legislative discrimination by people with money and power, as ineffective and begging brehs

yeah i will


The contradiction is your generic calls for power and money, while ignoring the current lack of interest to replace the coins of a billionaire that's funding a group that's fighting against one plight of your community

what does a white supremacist liberal funding blm have to do with black power and black money? im not following

Black economic power doesn't materialize just because of your skin color, you need to motivate the masses by action and information
A good start would be to at least start funding efforts that support your community

no it doesnt, black economic power does not arise from social action, that is the flaw in the blm and the civil rights movement



Riiigggghhhhtttt the idea to shed light on a cause inorder to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits was the brainchild of the liberal mastermind Soros cause no black person, religious person, gay person, or animal advocate would consider doing such a thing. smh

first of all i dont care what any religious, gay or animal advocate is doing

we are discussing black people, this whole effort to put black issues along those other issues aka intersectionalism is another dumb white liberal idea being pushed by blm and civil rights relics

if an individual or org wants to "shed light on a cause in order to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits" thats on them but like i said that is actually an archaic civil rights mentality, and the futility would have been obvious if not for it being pushed by white liberals


White supremacist liberal and blatant racist funding of black education, employment, insurance etc is nothing new and will continue to happen

yeah that is why black people should stop wasting time trying to "shed light on a cause in order to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits" or "focus attention on the plight of the black community" and focus on black economics

You're not the first or the last to point out the possible dangers of manipulation from outside money, while ignoring where the lack of money is coming from

i dont understand, so you are saying there is a danger of manipulation but i should ignore it or i shouldnt ignore it???

Ideally, I would've hoped once black folks utilize the resources funded by white supremacist liberals and blatant racist, then they would overwhelmingly fund orgs/individuals who are following an unapologetic black agenda, history and thecoli tells me that cycle doesn't happen

black people shouldnt waste their time with social organizations, black people should focus on money and power, banks and real estate

black people need to form corporations not organizations

ok. You call it ignoring, I call it maintaining perspective

doesnt matter what its called, the point is you are defending taking money from a white supremacist liberal

the bottom line is that you are here pushing an archaic civil rights construct where poor black folk are led by enlightened white liberals, BLM is archaic and deray is a clown looking for attention and money
 
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Now I understand some of you. You're not just interested in destroying the white power structure. You want to replace it with one where we're the oppressor. I don't agree with that. I mean, this may be naive or idealistic, but I believe our fight should first be for equity and then equality.
DING DING DING

And now you see why people who believe in such things actually harm the efforts of equality because white people will always use the worst of us to describe ALL of us.

It's not naive or idealistic at all
 

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black people need to focus on money and power and destroying our enemies

You have it right up until the bold. To focus on destruction is to focus our oh-so-precious energy in the wrong direction.

We should use our energy to BUILD.
 

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:salute: to you too. I wish more people here could debate civilly instead of calling 'c00n' or claiming someone ain't Black



perhaps the problem not so much the money..its the liberal agenda tied to it..the blind trust in liberals and their programs have resulted in so much damage and their solution is always " maybe it needs more funding..never saying..hmm maybe this was a mistake lets stop and try something else

I agree with this 100%. Why the hell we can't raise our own damn money to try things still is one of my biggest peeves. It has been 50 years since the War on Poverty and 30 since the War on Drugs and we still have the same problems :wow:

Also, though I am a bit liberal myself I feel we lost a lot getting tied into that one party having to always support what they do, BS and all. Tony Brown had it right when he said we should play each against the other for our own benefit. The only shift we ever did was jumping from 90%+ Republican to 90%+ Democrat :deadmanny:
 

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From a realtors website..not sure how accurate it is but they say its a $600,000 house....


..many have sold for their souls for less :demonic:

Hey Soros, private message me bruh!
 
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yeah i will
what does a white supremacist liberal funding blm have to do with black power and black money? im not following
no it doesnt, black economic power does not arise from social action, that is the flaw in the blm and the civil rights movement
Name any group you claim to have money and power, that doesn't have civil rights.
How are you finna get black folks to build a black economy, if you can't get them to fund their own efforts on a smaller scale?

Action and information motivates. If it didn't, then you wouldn't be on a forum debating anonymous folks with misleading information in order to motivate for a specific action

There's no connection between black economics and white liberal funding, thus why it's ridiculous that you're constantly referencing Soros then followup with black should be focusing on black economics. You said you were going to be an adult


first of all i dont care what any religious, gay or animal advocate is doing
we are discussing black people, this whole effort to put black issues along those other issues aka intersectionalism is another dumb white liberal idea being pushed by blm and civil rights relics
if an individual or org wants to "shed light on a cause in order to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits" thats on them but like i said that is actually an archaic civil rights mentality, and the futility would have been obvious if not for it being pushed by white liberals
whattah failed deflection attempt. To bring up other types of people with varing interest, proves that certain concepts transcend labels. Like civil rights


yeah that is why black people should stop wasting time trying to "shed light on a cause in order to capitalize on the media coverage in order to gain social and legislative benefits" or "focus attention on the plight of the black community" and focus on black economics
lol. Again. Let us be adults and recognize that goals could be strived for/achieved simultaneously without undermining each other. Stop with the poor attempts at correlating white funding to the inability for self funding


i dont understand, so you are saying there is a danger of manipulation but i should ignore it or i shouldnt ignore it???
This is becoming repetitive
Remove Black folks, Soros, and Jews from the discussion. Any person investing time and money into another person, group, or ideology, they are expecting some kind of return, in the form of more money, endorphin, , enlightenment, karma, poosay, stronger network connection

Just because folks are not as dismissive as you are towards BLM due to Soros' position, doesn't mean they don't understand the possible consequences of manipulation via a long term agenda
Not all facts are equally pertinent at every moment of analysis




black people shouldnt waste their time with social organizations, black people should focus on money and power, banks and real estate
black people need to form corporations not organizations
doesnt matter what its called, the point is you are defending taking money from a white supremacist liberal
the bottom line is that you are here pushing an archaic civil rights construct where poor black folk are led by enlightened white liberals, BLM is archaic and deray is a clown looking for attention and money

placing the prefix-black on terms and concepts doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment

talmbowt a racist and white liberal is funding a project/effort that benefits black folks, while not providing either alternate org or money, doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment
 

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Name any group you claim to have money and power, that doesn't have civil rights.

i would ask the inverse, name agroup that has gotten civil rights without having money and power

How are you finna get black folks to build a black economy, if you can't get them to fund their own efforts on a smaller scale?

you build a black economy the same way any economy is built, by establish corporations, banks and trading networks


Action and information motivates. If it didn't, then you wouldn't be on a forum debating anonymous folks with misleading information in order to motivate for a specific action

yeah if its actions toward establishing corporations, banks and trading networks its effective action

if its protesting in the street about civil rights rights and social justice, its a waste of time


There's no connection between black economics and white liberal funding, thus why it's ridiculous that you're constantly referencing Soros then followup with black should be focusing on black economics. You said you were going to be an adult

i agree 100% there is no connection between black economics and white liberal funding and lets keep it that way



whattah failed deflection attempt. To bring up other types of people with varing interest, proves that certain concepts transcend labels. Like civil rights

im not deflecting anything, im simply stating that i do not believe in intersectionilism, its a stupid white liberal idea that black people need to reject


lol. Again. Let us be adults and recognize that goals could be strived for/achieved simultaneously without undermining each other. Stop with the poor attempts at correlating white funding to the inability for self funding

the point of bring up white funding is that the white people have certain expections of their money and that can influence what the funded entity does

im not sure why that is so hard to understand or why you think black people should make an exception for white liberal funding




This is becoming repetitive

placing the prefix-black on terms and concepts doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment

talmbowt a racist and white liberal is funding a project/effort that benefits black folks, while not providing either alternate org or money, doesn't motivate action and sustain commitment

i never agreed that BLM or any other so called black organization funded by white liberals are beneficial too blacks, the most i can say is that they have mixed record

if white liberals stopped funding these organizations that would be a good thing
 

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yeah, I don't
because his actions are public
we can judge him on those, not on spurious and empty insinuations
notice that nothing you've written in the statement above is incriminating or indicting of his character
come back when you have something
so far you sound like a crazy person, or worse...
how the hell do I know you ain't cointell trying to sabotage a movement?

i am judging him and them by their actions

blm and civil rights relics have convinced and are leading black people in white liberal ideology that says black people need to integrate and march on the streets, that is a lie, no black person in their right mind should pay attention to anything Deray says

black people need to focus on building an economy first, not building your twitter followers and asking white people to be nicer to black people
 
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