Court in El Salvador sentenced 3 youths to 5 years in prison and put 5 more on probation last Thursday after video making gang signs in school dropped

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To the people okay with this: Are you comfortable celebrating authoritarianism that sacrifices civil rights and detains innocent people for the sake of short-term order? Would you accept the mass arrests, abuses, and a total disregard for due process, happening in your own community, especially given this country's history?

As a younger man I was against this because I was still with the fukkery.

As an older man I understand this is the only answer.
 

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Around 2% of the American population is in a gang. In black areas this can fluctuate up to around 4%. Do you really think that local police departments and “law and order” state governments would be vigilant so as to not arrest and charge innocent black men? Would it be worth it to get all gang members off the street if it also meant sacrificing thousands of innocent black men, yourself included?

What it would possibly do is, stop innocent people from half ass emulating the gang element. Because that's why innocent people would get caught up in it.

Brehs who carry themselves as if they're gang gang. Have the dress, the demeanor, everything copied. But if police approach them they throw up the "Wait...I'm not a gangsta, I work at Wells Fargo. I just look like this."

I know because I've walked that line.
 

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1) USA AINT El Salvador


2) The amount of innocent black men (we already do more time for less, AND are the most convicted to later be deemed innocents)


If you are black and support this I hope when your nephew, brother, Cousin, or Son get rounded up in the neighborhood " Gang raids" you keep that same energy.


LOL @ anyone black trusting "JUSTICE" within this system :russ:


But if this gets us closer to the collapse and restart then so be it :yeshrug:
 
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As a younger man I was against this because I was still with the fukkery.

As an older man I understand this is the only answer.
I'm in my 50s. This is not the way. I've lived through the days before and after the "tough-on-crime" era, and the lock 'em all up directive simply does not work. The only way to reduce this problem is by addressing the issues that push people into committing crime/joining gangs in the first place (poverty, lack of opportunities, broken systems, and so on). We're not getting out of this by giving up our rights and accepting mass, indiscriminate detention. It might bring short-term results, but it doesn't fix the underlying issues. It will only create more problems, which will eventually lead to something much worse.

People shouldn't be celebrating this or asking for it to come here, because there's no such thing as benevolent authoritarianism.
 

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1) USA AINT El Salvador


2) The amount of innocent black men (we already do more time for less, AND are the most convicted to later be deemed innocents)


If you are black and support this I hope when your nephew, brother, Cousin, or Son get rounded up in the neighborhood " Gang raids" you keep that same energy.


LOL @ anyone black trusting "JUSTICE" within this system :russ:


But if this gets us closer to the collapse and restart then so be it :yeshrug:

This.

We’re always the one who suffers first and the most. fukk this.
 

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More culture wars.

Lock up people for prayer hands and the sign of the cross. Christians are the biggest gangs, taking over countries and eliminating whole tribes.
 

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Is this effective?

El Savador was the murder capital of the world, now its now amongst the Safest in the world

 
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El Savador was the murder capital of the world, now its now amongst the Safest in the world

Did you the entire article?

I'll ask:
To the people okay with this: Are you comfortable celebrating authoritarianism that sacrifices civil rights and detains innocent people for the sake of short-term order? Would you accept the mass arrests, abuses, and a total disregard for due process, happening in your own community, especially given this country's history?
 

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To the people okay with this: Are you comfortable celebrating authoritarianism that sacrifices civil rights and detains innocent people for the sake of short-term order? Would you accept the mass arrests, abuses, and a total disregard for due process, happening in your own community, especially given this country's history?


You can call it whatever you like, but Hard working people are tired and fed up with criminals. Kids can't play outside, older folks

When folks get tired, no amount of liberal talking points will change their mind.
 

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Around 2% of the American population is in a gang. In black areas this can fluctuate up to around 4%. Do you really think that local police departments and “law and order” state governments would be vigilant so as to not arrest and charge innocent black men? Would it be worth it to get all gang members off the street if it also meant sacrificing thousands of innocent black men, yourself included?

How exactly will innocent black men be included?

Matching a description is one possible way, but what other ways are there?
 
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You can call it whatever you like, but Hard working people are tired and fed up with criminals. Kids can't play outside, older folks

When folks get tired, no amount of liberal talking points will change their mind.
I'm calling it exactly what it is. Don't try to whitewash how this is happening and what the consequences would be if this were to happen here. Are you fine with that?


 
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