Court in El Salvador sentenced 3 youths to 5 years in prison and put 5 more on probation last Thursday after video making gang signs in school dropped

[FaTaL]

El Savador was the murder capital of the world, now its now amongst the Safest in the world

El Salvador named one of the world's safest countries in 2023: At what cost? - Latin America Reports

Once known as the murder capital of the world, El Salvador was named one of the safest countries in 2023 by Gallup, a US-based global analytics and advisory firm. As the only Latin American country included in the top 10 safest countries, 88% of Salvadoran survey respondents answered that they...

www.latinamericareports.com

authoritarian governments dont release negative or honest stats

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I'm calling it exactly what it is. Don't try to whitewash how this is happening and what the consequences would be if this were to happen here. Are you fine with that?

How often are innocent black men imprisoned and under what circumstances?


If crime reform isn't the answer what do you suggest? Innocent black folks and kids are being terrorized everyday, so what do you suggest?

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

How exactly will innocent black men be included?

Matching a description is one possible way, but what other ways are there?

The same way innocent Salvadorans are being caught up, through profiling, false accusations, coerced confessions, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. We're already disproportionately targeted by racial profiling and over-policing, so what the hell do you think would happen under a system like this? This country's history of stop-and-frisk policies, wrongful arrests, and surveillance already shows how this could play out.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

The same way innocent Salvadorans are being caught up, through profiling, false accusations, coerced confessions, or being in the wrong place at the wrong time. We're already disproportionately targeted by racial profiling and over-policing, so what the hell do you think would happen under a system like this? This country's history of stop-and-frisk policies, wrongful arrests, and surveillance already shows how this could play out.

I mean what else do you suggest to solve the problem in low income neighborhoods? You can't trust whites to fix it.

Innocent black people are getting fed up especially the ones with dead parents, siblings, and friends due to gangs. It wouldn't surprise me if crime reform was welcomed. When someone loses a loved one, it hits way harder than we think

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

How often are innocent black men imprisoned and under what circumstances?


If crime reform isn't the answer what do you suggest? Innocent black folks and kids are being terrorized everyday, so what do you suggest?

This dangerous authoritarian practice isn't crime reform. It would lead to a different kind of state sponsored terrorizing of innocent Black people.

And according to the National Registry of Exonerations, nearly half of exonerations involve Black people. And I already suggested a solution. Look up.

Do you want this to come here knowing what it entails?

 

[O.T.I.S.]

He said some real shyt here


fukk it then. His people wanted and needed this.

Trump trying to do a similar play, except he doesn’t really care if you are a criminal or not. Pulling up to schools, restaurants, etc.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

I mean what else do you suggest to solve the problem in low income neighborhoods? You can't trust whites to fix it.

Innocent black people are getting fed up especially the ones with dead parents, siblings, and friends due to gangs. It wouldn't surprise me if crime reform was welcomed. When someone loses a loved one, it hits way harder than we think

You keep repeating the same thing, but those innocent Black people wouldn't want this, just like they didn't want *just* the punitive policies of the '94 crime bill. They wanted investment in schools, jobs, housing, and resources to address the root causes of crime.

Opinion | Did Blacks Really Endorse the 1994 Crime Bill? (Published 2016)

African Americans wanted comprehensive action, not mass incarceration. But white politicians heard what they wanted to hear.

www.nytimes.com

When confronted about her husband’s pivotal support for the bill, Hillary Clinton argued, even as she admitted the legislation’s shortcomings, that the bill was a response to “great demand, not just from America writ large, but from the black community, to get tougher on crime.”

Yet the historical record reveals a different story. Instead of being the unintended consequence of the democratic process at work, punitive crime policy is a result of a process of selectively hearing black voices on the question of crime.

There’s no question that by the early 1990s, blacks wanted an immediate response to the crime, violence and drug markets in their communities. But even at the time, many were asking for something different from the crime bill. Calls for tough sentencing and police protection were paired with calls for full employment, quality education and drug treatment, and criticism of police brutality.

It’s not just that those demands were ignored completely. It’s that some elements were elevated and others were diminished — what we call selective hearing. Policy makers pointed to black support for greater punishment and surveillance, without recognizing accompanying demands to redirect power and economic resources to low-income minority communities. When blacks ask for better policing, legislators tend to hear more instead.

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

This dangerous authoritarian practice isn't crime reform. It would lead to a different kind of state sponsored terrorizing of innocent Black people.

And according to the National Registry of Exonerations, nearly half of exonerations involve Black people. And I already suggested a solution. Look up.

Do you want this to come here knowing what it entails?

I wish we could change.

I don't like reading about kids or anybody for that matter getting shot. My uncle's friend got robbed and shot in the eye by a 14 year old.

 

[El_Mero_Mero]

I think the "not big on authoritarian tactics" is a major problem with black people and a big part of why we are now.

Some people, actually many people must be handled in an authoritative manner. It's just that our history with slavery makes us afraid to even consider.

Best post in the thread. ^^^

When folks get tired, no amount of liberal talking points will change their mind

 

[Dzali OG]

I'm in my 50s. This is not the way. I've lived through the days before and after the "tough-on-crime" era, and the lock 'em all up directive simply does not work. The only way to reduce this problem is by addressing the issues that push people into committing crime/joining gangs in the first place (poverty, lack of opportunities, broken systems, and so on). We're not getting out of this by giving up our rights and accepting mass, indiscriminate detention. It might bring short-term results, but it doesn't fix the underlying issues. It will only create more problems, which will eventually lead to something much worse.

People shouldn't be celebrating this or asking for it to come here, because there's no such thing as benevolent authoritarianism.

Naw that "addressing the issues like poverty and lack of opportunity" rhetoric is dead now. Our youth have been volunteering to live a certain lifestyle by choice now!

We don't even have ghettos like we used too. These kids aren't growing up in squalor. They have parents who are RNs now, yet they still ganged out.

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

Naw that "addressing the issues like poverty and lack of opportunity" rhetoric is dead now. Our youth have been volunteering to live a certain lifestyle by choice now!

We don't even have ghettos like we used too. These kids aren't growing up in squalor. They have parents who are RNs now, yet they still ganged out.

How can something that's never been given a real chance be dead now? Addressing the contributing causes isn't "dead rhetoric," it's proven solutions for reducing crime that this country has never fully committed to. No offense, but this is extremely ignorant. I'm glad you have no real power over anything.

 

[MikelArteta]

For good!!!

 

[3rdWorld]

So sick of gangs..

 

[frush11]

So the plan is just to lock people up, or actually deal with the problem that cause it.

Because locking people up only works for so long. At some point if you really wanna stop this, you gotta address the root cause.

 

[Dzali OG]

How can something that's never been given a real chance be dead now? Addressing the contributing causes isn't "dead rhetoric," it's proven solutions for reducing crime that this country has never fully committed to. No offense, but this is extremely ignorant. I'm glad you have no real power over anything.

Thing is, this country doesn't want to invest in large populations of black youth. Ok, right or wrong this is what it has shown us. So what's next? Are we to keep losing generation after generation to gang life? Losing kids who really aren't even that poor, or in many situations, aren't poor at ALL. In many situations kids are leaving nice suburban neighborhoods to go be cool in the low income areas.

Gtfoh...time stop using that excuse, we've lost how many generations to that no longer relevant point.