Court in El Salvador sentenced 3 youths to 5 years in prison and put 5 more on probation last Thursday after video making gang signs in school dropped

[Trajan]

You need a ruthless goon to deal with goons


Civil liberties are obviously very important but security is paramount. A 70% drop in homocide is an amazing stat (if true).

What's the point of ppl having all those rights if they can't leave their house due to out of control gangs?

Some of the tweets and statements I've seen from him sounds like dogwhistles to American far right tho

 

[CourtesyFlush]

Proof America is hell

How is this proof that America is hell lol

 

[Hawaiian Punch]

That’s my leftist dictator


In the case of El Salvador there was no other option but the extreme one. May not work everywhere in the world but it appears to work there. Personally I would like to see across the board prosecution and jail to all violent gangs and criminals, both corporate and street. Treat embezzlement and murder as the same thing.

 

[UncleTomFord15]

You love to see it. This needs to come to Jamaica .

 

[Mike Nasty]

I doubt they went through all that trouble to eliminate gang violence and go from the highest murder rate in the world, just to sit back and let the next generation of shyt heads to grow up and take their place. Be smarter, he's made it very clear he ain't playing with gangs.

 

[newarkhiphop]

Is this effective?

It is, frozen in time how they did this should be studied. Everything from conception to implementation, I'm 100 % convinced we helped them do this but can't take credit it for it.

Now the problem, when and if him and his party have any political opposition will the same techniques used to suppress the gangs and bad guys be used on his political enemies? Latin America history tells us yes.

But wait and see approach, I for one think every place south of the border should be doing this.

 

[Diunx]

 

[Pull Up the Roots]

To the people okay with this: Are you comfortable celebrating authoritarianism that sacrifices civil rights and detains innocent people for the sake of short-term order? Would you accept the mass arrests, abuses, and a total disregard for due process, happening in your own community, especially given this country's history?

 

[KingTut]

What are gangs doing? I ask this and do not agree with teenagers being jailed for throwing gang signs.

Around 2% of the American population is in a gang. In black areas this can fluctuate up to around 4%. Do you really think that local police departments and “law and order” state governments would be vigilant so as to not arrest and charge innocent black men? Would it be worth it to get all gang members off the street if it also meant sacrificing thousands of innocent black men, yourself included?

 

[BandOfGypsys]

Perfectly said, he improved the lives of Millions of his people which what a leader is supposed to do, he may not be perfect but nobody outside of his Country should criticize him if his people love him. If some gang members have to get sacrificed so rest of the population can live in peace it's worth it 100%!

I doubt they went through all that trouble to eliminate gang violence and go from the highest murder rate in the world, just to sit back and let the next generation of shyt heads to grow up and take their place. Be smarter, he's made it very clear he ain't playing with gangs.

I agree with this, that's the only reason I would be against it in America. But if we had our own Country we would have to purge ourselves of nikka for goooood! By any means necessary. It's ashame poor working class Black people in America have to be terrorized by a minority of violent nikkas!

This can only work in countries with astronomical homicide rates like El Salvador.

While it’s honestly a great deterrent it would have a completely different result in somewhere like America. It’d decimate communities and negatively impact black people the most. Imagine what red state governments would consider gang signs.

NEVER QUOTE OP

 

[#BOTHSIDES]

SAN SALVADOR (AP) — A court in El Salvador on Thursday sentenced three youths to five years in prison and put five more on probation after they were arrested last year following the public release of a video of them making gang signs inside a school.

Seven other young people, who were also being prosecuted for alleged links to gangs, were acquitted by the court in the country's capital San Salvador.

The youths, aged 12 to 15, were detained after a video shared on the social media platform TikTok showed them flashing signs connected with the Mara Salvatrucha (MS-13) gang, according to police.

It comes amid a harsh gang crackdown by El Salvador President Nayib Bukele.

Following a wave of gang violence in 2022, Bukele declared a temporary state of emergency in the Central American country and waved key constitutional rights. The government has arrested 84,000 people – more than one per cent of the country's population – the vast majority of whom remain in prison without a court sentence.

The government has said it has freed 8,000 people it deemed innocent.

While the crackdown has fuelled waves of human rights criticisms, it also prompted a sharp decline in crime and homicide rates, causing Bukele's popularity to soar.

The Thursday sentences also underscore the convoluted toll that the crackdown has had on the country's youth, particularly those in poorer areas, who for decades have been preyed upon and recruited by gangs.

When the young people were arrested, the government reported that more than 1,000 youths had been convicted with sentences ranging up to 20 years in prison for alleged ties to gangs.

El Salvador's penal code carries sentences between 20 to 40 years for gang membership, and 60 years for ring leaders. A 2023 reform by Bukele set prison sentences for children under the age of 12 at 10 years, and up to 20 years for those over 16 years old.

Of the seven who were exonerated this week, the San Salvador judge said that they had proved that they had no links of any kind to gangs, and that the case would set a precedent for children being prosecuted.

Get those THUGS off the street early and show them it’s not a game

Sounds like you’re calling for a crime bill?

 

[Dzali OG]

I'm not big on these sort of authoritarian tactics.


But Jamaica is so far gone that it may also need this heavy hand approach

I think the "not big on authoritarian tactics" is a major problem with black people and a big part of why we are now.

Some people, actually many people must be handled in an authoritative manner. It's just that our history with slavery makes us afraid to even consider.

 

[Dzali OG]

This is dangerous bc you end up with cases of guilt by proximity.

They should at least alloe them chance to get out if they behave

Yes there will be some guilt by association...until people learn to not even associate with the element.

 

[Dr. Acula]

Anyone who is a fan of this better not have been on this board talking about "THE CRIME BILL" shyt.

 

[Dzali OG]

This can only work in countries with astronomical homicide rates like El Salvador.

While it’s honestly a great deterrent it would have a completely different result in somewhere like America. It’d decimate communities and negatively impact black people the most. Imagine what red state governments would consider gang signs.

It would decimate the communities of the detrimental element? Addition by subtraction.