BlueHeffner
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Because thats how you win games
Randle scored 3tds in one half this past season, so miss me with that poor qb play. You're just a Darren Mcfadden apologist
Countdown to Elliot: Dallas Cowboys 2016 Offseason Thread
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Randle scored 3tds in one half this past season, so miss me with that poor qb play. You're just a Darren Mcfadden apologist
They called Struggle Cuts the next Adrian Peterson and LaDainian Tomlinson as well. 
Mel Kiper: Marshawn Lynch with speed.
Jon Gruden: He can pass protect and catch balls out the backfield
Mel Kiper: He doesn't fumble
This sounds like a recording of the 2016 draft.
Mel Kiper: Marshawn Lynch with speed.
Jon Gruden: He can pass protect and catch balls out the backfield
Mel Kiper: He doesn't fumble
This sounds like a recording of the 2016 draft.
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Dwight Howard
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Because thats how you win games
Randle scored 3tds in one half this past season, so miss me with that poor qb play. You're just a Darren Mcfadden apologist
not even a fan of dude like that. Im just saying if McFadden can be a top 5 rusher in the league, im sure plenty others can. it doesn't take a special back to get Td's, Jeremy Hill and D'angelo Williams lead the league in td's for crying out loud. McFadden's lack of Td's isn't a valid criticism when the team is ranked in the bottom of the league in red zone attempts. you dudes cant take any type of criticism about the team smh. Its not like im even shytting on zeke, im shytting on the allocation of resources.
Dwight Howard
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pretty much sums up my thoughts
Kevin Sherrington: As you said, you don't want to give them a grade. Let me just ask you this. First of all, we know that you felt like with the first pick, you certainly liked Zeke Elliot as a running back but probably would have leaned towards Jalen Ramsey instead?
Bob Sturm: My perfect solution to this draft, I was asked a million times, what are you doing when it comes to No. 4? I did not imagine Jalen Ramsey was going to be available before everyone started making trades for quarterbacks. But once those trades happened, the Cowboys had a chance to take the best defensive player in the draft or maybe the best player in the draft, although quarterbacks always turn the market on its ear. So I thought the chance to get a blue-chip difference maker at corner or safety was a really great idea. But then, honestly, what governs my decision-making process at No. 4 is partly I would never take a running back that high, unless I was absolutely positive that player was Adrian Peterson or something similar. And I think with each passing year and each passing generation, running back is becoming less and less important. The Cowboys are trying, I think, by kind of using their 1990s philosophy. In 2014 it was pretty convincing, but the rest of the NFL doesn't really believe that 1990s football works. They believe it's a passing league. And we know this. We can look at any Cowboys game in the last couple of years. Where the game is in doubt if the Cowboys are tied or behind, pretty much every play they call is going to be a pass. So in that situation, if you're tied or behind, late in a game the game's on the line you obviously pay your quarterback what you do because he now decides the outcome of the game. They had DeMarco Murray in 2014. DeMarco Murray helped ice away a few games. But when they needed rallies, heck when they were trying to rally against Detroit in the playoffs or Green Bay in the playoffs they weren't running the ball in the fourth quarter. They weren't running the ball at all. So to put all of that in a running back seems crazy.
Barry Horn: What about this? What if they had taken Ramsey with the first pick and if they wanted a running back taken Derrick Henry with the second pick? Would you have liked that better?
Sturm: Oh my gosh yes. I think Derrick Henry with this team would have absolutely destroyed teams. And that's not at all me saying Ezekiel Elliot is not a really good player. I will stop short of saying he has Adrian Peterson or Todd Gurley traits, but I still think far and away he is the best RB in this market. That said, with the Dallas Cowboys specific situation of having so much talent on their offensive line and so much success running the ball with replacement level running backs like Darren McFadden, it seems foolish to me to take your biggest asset and fix something that's not broken. So basically, if you could get a top college running back, maybe not the best one, but the second or third or fourth best running back, later on in this draft, kind of using the same theory with Dak Prescott, we like the kid, but there' a price where its too expensive so let's wait, that's what I wish they would have done at running back. That, I think would have been the better way to skin the cat. That said, if the object of the game is to leave the draft with elite talent you didn't already have, to get Ezekiel Elliot and Jaylon Smith assuming thy have medial information that gives them the likelihood Jaylon Smith will be Jaylon Smith again really soon within 12 months, that's still a pretty good day. I know everyone wants an A+ or an F grade on every single draft. I'm just not that type of guy. I think we require a little nuance here. I think they did okay. I think they could done better. But I realize every Cowboy fan is so excited that Ezekiel Elliot is Emmitt Smith so I don't want to rain on the parade. I just think they could have spent slightly differently.
Kevin Sherrington: As you said, you don't want to give them a grade. Let me just ask you this. First of all, we know that you felt like with the first pick, you certainly liked Zeke Elliot as a running back but probably would have leaned towards Jalen Ramsey instead?
Bob Sturm: My perfect solution to this draft, I was asked a million times, what are you doing when it comes to No. 4? I did not imagine Jalen Ramsey was going to be available before everyone started making trades for quarterbacks. But once those trades happened, the Cowboys had a chance to take the best defensive player in the draft or maybe the best player in the draft, although quarterbacks always turn the market on its ear. So I thought the chance to get a blue-chip difference maker at corner or safety was a really great idea. But then, honestly, what governs my decision-making process at No. 4 is partly I would never take a running back that high, unless I was absolutely positive that player was Adrian Peterson or something similar. And I think with each passing year and each passing generation, running back is becoming less and less important. The Cowboys are trying, I think, by kind of using their 1990s philosophy. In 2014 it was pretty convincing, but the rest of the NFL doesn't really believe that 1990s football works. They believe it's a passing league. And we know this. We can look at any Cowboys game in the last couple of years. Where the game is in doubt if the Cowboys are tied or behind, pretty much every play they call is going to be a pass. So in that situation, if you're tied or behind, late in a game the game's on the line you obviously pay your quarterback what you do because he now decides the outcome of the game. They had DeMarco Murray in 2014. DeMarco Murray helped ice away a few games. But when they needed rallies, heck when they were trying to rally against Detroit in the playoffs or Green Bay in the playoffs they weren't running the ball in the fourth quarter. They weren't running the ball at all. So to put all of that in a running back seems crazy.
Barry Horn: What about this? What if they had taken Ramsey with the first pick and if they wanted a running back taken Derrick Henry with the second pick? Would you have liked that better?
Sturm: Oh my gosh yes. I think Derrick Henry with this team would have absolutely destroyed teams. And that's not at all me saying Ezekiel Elliot is not a really good player. I will stop short of saying he has Adrian Peterson or Todd Gurley traits, but I still think far and away he is the best RB in this market. That said, with the Dallas Cowboys specific situation of having so much talent on their offensive line and so much success running the ball with replacement level running backs like Darren McFadden, it seems foolish to me to take your biggest asset and fix something that's not broken. So basically, if you could get a top college running back, maybe not the best one, but the second or third or fourth best running back, later on in this draft, kind of using the same theory with Dak Prescott, we like the kid, but there' a price where its too expensive so let's wait, that's what I wish they would have done at running back. That, I think would have been the better way to skin the cat. That said, if the object of the game is to leave the draft with elite talent you didn't already have, to get Ezekiel Elliot and Jaylon Smith assuming thy have medial information that gives them the likelihood Jaylon Smith will be Jaylon Smith again really soon within 12 months, that's still a pretty good day. I know everyone wants an A+ or an F grade on every single draft. I'm just not that type of guy. I think we require a little nuance here. I think they did okay. I think they could done better. But I realize every Cowboy fan is so excited that Ezekiel Elliot is Emmitt Smith so I don't want to rain on the parade. I just think they could have spent slightly differently.
for now.
Spade
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Cats in here still crying over spilled milk
NO bullshyt.
Dwight Howard
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Its a duscussion thread. Training camp hasnt even started, nikkas have a right to be critical about the team.Cats in here still crying over spilled milk
BlueHeffner
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Jaylon and Zeke the future brehs
WAATBA
Broad Street Bully
Sick & Tide Sixers/Phillies/Cowboys fan smh
nikkas is unbearableCats in here still crying over spilled milk
And you know they gonna be secretly rooting for the bro to fail just so they can up posts and say I told you so on some fakkit shyt