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Coronavirus Thread: Worldwide Pandemic
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Rest In Power Kobe
is he a scumbag?
He tried to see his wife and kids.
IT was stupid, selfish and very American of him, but he not a scumbag.
It does work when you have a leader that can communicate.
When you don’t have a President that fully understands the function of government, the government will not function properly.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
this is what Trump is accounting for, remember that.Yeah we're fukked, infact we're worse than Italy people have been saying it for at least two weeks.trumps incompetence will cause10shundreds of thousands of deaths
We will probably lose millions of people to this, both who have it and those affected tangentially.
fukk that. Every four years we have to hold our breath and see if a Republican is elected president. That's not counting every Republican governor that's still ignoring this crisis and Fox News broadcasting uninterrupted propaganda every single second of the day.
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
This will lead to a civil war. (which is what Trump wants)
Also, those states are still gonna have heavy death tolls anyway because they have less of a base.
In 2017, Obama officials briefed Trump's team on dealing with a pandemic like the coronavirus. One Cabinet member reportedly fell asleep, and others didn't want to be there.
Ashley Collman
Mar 17, 2020, 7:58 AM
President Donald Trump.
Evan Vucci/AP
When President Donald Trump visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention earlier this month as coronavirus cases accelerated in the US, he said that "you can never really think" that something like this might happen.
But it turns out the Obama administration did think this was something Trump could face in office and took steps to brief his appointees on how to respond to an outbreak before he took over in 2017.
Politico reported on Monday that it obtained documents from that legally mandated training and spoke with more than a dozen attendees, from the Obama and Trump administration sides.
Obama officials, they said, explained what the Trump administration would have to do when faced with a pandemic. The model scenario was similar to the coronavirus outbreak: an outbreak that crops up in Asia, spreads to the US, and exposes problems like shortages of ventilators and antiviral drugs.
While most of the Trump administration officials paid attention, others tuned out and questioned why they had to be there, Politico's sources said.
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross was said to have dozed off at points during the three-hour training.
A senior Obama administration official said Ross and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos were "especially dismissive in conversations on the sidelines of the session."
(A representative for Ross denied that he fell asleep, saying he "found the meeting quite interesting and informative." DeVos' representative said that "this is nothing more than a hit piece with no basis in reality.")
"There were people who were there who said, 'This is really stupid and why do we need to be here,'" the senior Obama administration told Politico.
When asked whether any information from the session made its way to the president-elect, a former senior Trump administration official wasn't sure. But they told Politico that hypotheticals like that were not "the kind of thing that really interested the president very much."
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is said to have dozed off at points during the three-hour pandemic training in 2017.
Andrew Harnik/AP
"He was never interested in things that might happen. He's totally focused on the stock market, the economy, and always bashing his predecessor and giving him no credit," the source said. "The possibility things were things he didn't spend much time on or show much interest in."
The Trump administration has faced strong criticism for its handling of the outbreak, from a lack of testing kits to Trump's repeated misstatements at press conferences.
As Politico pointed out, one of the challenges of the training was that Trump's appointees largely did not have government experience.
"The problem is that they came in very arrogant and convinced that they knew more than the outgoing administration — full swagger," another former Obama administration official told Politico.
Another issue is that the administration's high turnover means that about two-thirds of the people who attended the training had left the White House by the time of the coronavirus outbreak.
Ashley Collman
Mar 17, 2020, 7:58 AM
President Donald Trump.
Evan Vucci/AP
- In the days before Donald Trump's inauguration, outgoing Obama administration officials trained his incoming administration on how to deal with a pandemic.
- Politico said it obtained documents from the meeting and spoke with more than a dozen people who attended the training, which was described as "weird" at best.
- One member of Trump's Cabinet, Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross, reportedly dozed off, and others questioned why they had to be there.
- Visit Business Insider's homepage for more stories.
When President Donald Trump visited the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention earlier this month as coronavirus cases accelerated in the US, he said that "you can never really think" that something like this might happen.
But it turns out the Obama administration did think this was something Trump could face in office and took steps to brief his appointees on how to respond to an outbreak before he took over in 2017.
Politico reported on Monday that it obtained documents from that legally mandated training and spoke with more than a dozen attendees, from the Obama and Trump administration sides.
Obama officials, they said, explained what the Trump administration would have to do when faced with a pandemic. The model scenario was similar to the coronavirus outbreak: an outbreak that crops up in Asia, spreads to the US, and exposes problems like shortages of ventilators and antiviral drugs.
While most of the Trump administration officials paid attention, others tuned out and questioned why they had to be there, Politico's sources said.
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross was said to have dozed off at points during the three-hour training.
A senior Obama administration official said Ross and Education Secretary Betsy DeVos were "especially dismissive in conversations on the sidelines of the session."
(A representative for Ross denied that he fell asleep, saying he "found the meeting quite interesting and informative." DeVos' representative said that "this is nothing more than a hit piece with no basis in reality.")
"There were people who were there who said, 'This is really stupid and why do we need to be here,'" the senior Obama administration told Politico.
When asked whether any information from the session made its way to the president-elect, a former senior Trump administration official wasn't sure. But they told Politico that hypotheticals like that were not "the kind of thing that really interested the president very much."
Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross is said to have dozed off at points during the three-hour pandemic training in 2017.
Andrew Harnik/AP
"He was never interested in things that might happen. He's totally focused on the stock market, the economy, and always bashing his predecessor and giving him no credit," the source said. "The possibility things were things he didn't spend much time on or show much interest in."
The Trump administration has faced strong criticism for its handling of the outbreak, from a lack of testing kits to Trump's repeated misstatements at press conferences.
As Politico pointed out, one of the challenges of the training was that Trump's appointees largely did not have government experience.
"The problem is that they came in very arrogant and convinced that they knew more than the outgoing administration — full swagger," another former Obama administration official told Politico.
Another issue is that the administration's high turnover means that about two-thirds of the people who attended the training had left the White House by the time of the coronavirus outbreak.
China Concealed Extent of Virus Outbreak, U.S. Intelligence Says
By
Nick Wadhams
and
Jennifer Jacobs
April 1, 2020, 11:15 AM EDT
- Report submitted to White House on China’s under-count
- U.S. has publicly reported more than twice as many cases
Airport employees wear full body protective suits at Pudong International Airport in Shanghai on March 28. Photographer: Qilai Shen/Bloomberg
China has concealed the extent of the coronavirus outbreak in its country, under-reporting both total cases and deaths it’s suffered from the disease, the U.S. intelligence community concluded in a classified report to the White House, according to three U.S. officials.
The officials asked not to be identified because the report is secret and declined to detail its contents. But the thrust, they said, is that China’s public reporting on cases and deaths is intentionally incomplete. Two of the officials said the report concludes that China’s numbers are fake.
The report was received by the White House last week, one of the officials said.
The outbreak began in China’s Hubei province in late 2019, but the country has publicly reported only about 82,000 cases and 3,300 deaths, according to data compiled by Johns Hopkins University. That compares to more than 189,000 cases and more than 4,000 deaths in the U.S., which has the largest publicly reported outbreak in the world.
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Communications staff at the White House and Chinese embassy in Washington didn’t immediately respond to requests for comment.
While China eventually imposed a strict lockdown beyond those of less autocratic nations, there has been considerable skepticism of China’s reported numbers, both outside and within the country. The Chinese government has repeatedly revised its methodology for counting cases, for weeks excluding people without symptoms entirely, and only on Tuesday added more than 1,500 asymptomatic cases to its total.
Stacks of thousands of urns outside funeral homes in Hubei province have driven public doubt in Beijing’s reporting.
Deborah Birx, the State Department immunologist advising the White House on its response to the outbreak, said Tuesday that China’s public reporting influenced assumptions elsewhere in the world about the nature of the virus.
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“The medical community made -- interpreted the Chinese data as: This was serious, but smaller than anyone expected,” she said at a news conference on Tuesday. “Because I think probably we were missing a significant amount of the data, now that what we see happened to Italy and see what happened to Spain.”
China is not the only country with suspect public reporting. Western officials have pointed to Iran, Russia, Indonesia and especially North Korea, which has not reported a single case of the disease, as probable under-counts. Others including Saudi Arabia and Egypt may also be playing down their numbers.
Read More: Mapping the Outbreak Across the World
U.S. Secretary of State Michael Pompeo has publicly urged China and other nations to be transparent about their outbreaks. He has repeatedly accused China of covering up the extent of the problem and being slow to share information, especially in the weeks after the virus first emerged, and blocking offers of help from American experts.
“This data set matters,” he said at a news conference in Washington on Tuesday. The development of medical therapies and public-health measures to combat the virus “so that we can save lives depends on the ability to have confidence and information about what has actually transpired,” he said.
“I would urge every nation: Do your best to collect the data. Do your best to share that information,” he said. “We’re doing that.”
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stop posting this conspiracy theorist dope.
Now they (baby sea turtles) have to make it back to the ocean and somewhere safe without getting eaten by birds, fish, sharks, whales, and every other creature that lives in the sea.....
He's not a conspiracy theorist. he's former NSA and functionally right about every thing. You could learn a thing or two from an actual IC expert, even if they're to the right of you (and me) politically
AZBeauty
Stop lyin' nicca.
This makes me angry. They blaming his lack of response on impeachment but whats their excuse for this? I dont think I've ever truly hated someone the way I hate him. Actually there is one other person I hate on the same level of him. I wish them both nothing but pain.
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