Coronavirus can survive high temperatures, so might not abate this summer: study

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And what I said had everything to do with how long the virus survived on the diamond princess...certains places it thrives. ...

Yeah well tell someone else. I'm not having that discussion. Don't @ me about it.

I said nothing about heat effects. I am not discussing heat effects. I've had my fill of discussing complex issues with :wtf:.

e-grows always want to argue. I made no assertions whatsoever.

Look up assertions e-grow and don't @ me with your non-sequiturs.
 

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You're not concerned that they were doing this 5 years ago? That people were making efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine.

You're not concerned the govt told us they STOPPED doing this kind of thing 5 years ago?

You're not concerned the govt gave 4M dollar grant so that studies could continue in CHina sidestepping their own ruling?

Breh, what you're saying has nothing to do with what I said. You posted a link to an article about something from 5 years ago....which seems to suggest you think it's COVID-19 related....but the same link, after it was updated, says it has nothing to do with COVID-19.

So I'm just confused as to why you'd post that link, or what you think it implies.

As far as being concerned....I'm more concerned with the PPP running out of money, than the government potentially funding/creating/looking the other way when a new virus is being created. They been doing shyt like that before either of us were born. Yes it's alarming but it's par for the course.

Fred.
 

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It's pretty much the one u can't defend against without a Hazmat suit on...a mask won't protect ur eyes and ears.

Exactly.

You can have a n95 mask, but if you walk through a mist thats hanging in the air, it'll still get into your eyes.

This needs to be kept in mind, while figuring out how to reopen the country..
 

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Exactly.

You can have a n95 mask, but if you walk through a mist thats hanging in the air, it'll still get into your eyes.

This needs to be kept in mind, while figuring out how to reopen the country..


Think the first goal would be to prevent the spread of virus on objects and in close contact areas.
 

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Exactly.

You can have a n95 mask, but if you walk through a mist thats hanging in the air, it'll still get into your eyes.

This needs to be kept in mind, while figuring out how to reopen the country..

:ehh:

That's why a breh bought these ...

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And I wear glasses anyway - they are OTG
 

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Breh, what you're saying has nothing to do with what I said. You posted a link to an article about something from 5 years ago....which seems to suggest you think it's COVID-19 related....but the same link, after it was updated, says it has nothing to do with COVID-19.

So I'm just confused as to why you'd post that link, or what you think it implies.

As far as being concerned....I'm more concerned with the PPP running out of money, than the government potentially funding/creating/looking the other way when a new virus is being created. They been doing shyt like that before either of us were born. Yes it's alarming but it's par for the course.

Fred.

Breh non of the below concerns you? Ok. Thats cool. I think myself and many others are legit concerned by it though. So let us cook.

Ralph Baric, an infectious-disease researcher at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, last week (November 9) published a study on his team’s efforts to engineer a virus with the surface protein of the SHC014 coronavirus, found in horseshoe bats in China, and the backbone of one that causes human-like severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) in mice. The hybrid virus could infect human airway cells and caused disease in mice, according to the team’s results, which were published in Nature Medicine.


In October 2013, the US government put a stop to all federal funding for gain-of-function studies, with particular concern rising about influenza, SARS, and Middle East respiratory syndrome (MERS). “NIH [National Institutes of Health] has funded such studies because they help define the fundamental nature of human-pathogen interactions, enable the assessment of the pandemic potential of emerging infectious agents, and inform public health and preparedness efforts,” NIH Director Francis Collins said in a statement at the time. “These studies, however, also entail biosafety and biosecurity risks, which need to be understood better.”


Baric’s study on the SHC014-chimeric coronavirus began before the moratorium was announced, and the NIH allowed it to proceed during a review process, which eventually led to the conclusion that the work did not fall under the new restrictions, Baric told Nature. But some researchers, like Wain-Hobson, disagree with that decision.

The debate comes down to how informative the results are. “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk,” Richard Ebright, a molecular biologist and biodefence expert at Rutgers University, told Nature.

But Baric and others argued the study’s importance. “[The results] move this virus from a candidate emerging pathogen to a clear and present danger,” Peter Daszak, president of the EcoHealth Alliance, which samples viruses from animals and people in emerging-diseases hotspots across the globe, told Nature.
 

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All this proves we don't know enough if anything about this virus.

I've read where even some scientist are not excluding creation in a lab. Not saying it's 100% and there's evidence, but then again, why would someone leave evidence?
 
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Breh, what you're saying has nothing to do with what I said. You posted a link to an article about something from 5 years ago....which seems to suggest you think it's COVID-19 related....but the same link, after it was updated, says it has nothing to do with COVID-19.

So I'm just confused as to why you'd post that link, or what you think it implies.

As far as being concerned....I'm more concerned with the PPP running out of money, than the government potentially funding/creating/looking the other way when a new virus is being created. They been doing shyt like that before either of us were born. Yes it's alarming but it's par for the course.

Fred.

My G, why would someone update the paper unless it was being looked at as proof of the Virus verbatim. It's called damage control.
 

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Either this is a super megatron virus or these scientists/specialists don't know anything about it

"You don't need masks" - "Nevermind you do need masks"
"It can't be transmitted passed 6ft" - "Nevermind it can be passed just by breathing particles in the air"
"You cannot be reinfected" - "Nevermind we have cases of reinfection"
"You have to quarantine for 14 days" - "Nevermind it takes longer than 14 days"
"It only lasts on surafces for 9 hours" - "Nevermind it can last on surfaces for days"
"Heat will kill it" - "Nevermind it survives high heat"

I am tired of all this. At this point if I get it, then I get it. :yeshrug:
 

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This is a good time as any to say that there is not an identified strategy to handle this situation that America can actually implement and see sustainable long term positive results. Social distancing works, but it's not going to work for America.

Say there's a virus that causes severe disease in the obese. A 500 pound morbidly obese man named Sam who uses a hoverround for mobility has this disease. He's in BAD shape. BUT, there is a solution; proper rest and exercise will stimulate the immune response to fight off the virus. The problem is Sam can rest with the best, but he is not mobile enough to do the rigorous exercise needed to stimulate the immune system. He tries anyway and ends up falling down the stairs. Now he is in a coma.

Sam's obesity made him vulnerable to the virus and at the same time made it impossible for him to do what was needed to get the disease under control. The science behind the solution is sound. Sam's own poor health habits have put this solution out of his reach.

Sam is America. The system, society and culture we have in place has obviously made us extremely vulnerable to an infectious disease. These same factors and their consequences make it impossible to effectively manage this situation using social distancing. All we've done so far is isolate a large number of the population. That's slowed the spread, but the actual guidelines, regulations, precautions and steps to function as a society while practicing social distancing in the coming months aren't there. Proper testing. Not there in both the actual tests and chemical components and capacity to process the tests rapidly. Competent healthcare system. Not there. Competent leadership. Not there. Adequate stimulus. Not there.

The system and society we have in place and accepted as adequate by most Americans isn't designed for social distancing and all of the other post lockdown requirements experts like to rattle off.

When I see yet another study that has identified yet ANOTHER Coronavirus superpower and I see the well worn STAY HOME warning I just wonder if they know that if their dreams of an unprecedented supervirus come true we are just going to have to take it on the chin?

And this isn't to scare anyone. There's no point in being scared. I think people just need to be more realistic about the situation we're in. If this virus doesn't slow down during the summer people are going to realize we can't just social distance this away in America.

I mean I'm sure these guidelines will remain in place because the alternative is survival of the fittest. But the economy will suffer and people will get sick and die. It's going to happen no matter what we do really and people should be more mentally prepared for it. It's definitely not the end of the world though. This is just different because a disease hasn't given us one on the chin in awhile. It's just one to grow on.

Oh, and studies show Coronavirus can increase the incidence of long rambling posts by at least 20%. Of that 20%, 178% will die.
 

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This is a good time as any to say that there is not an identified strategy to handle this situation that America can actually implement and see sustainable long term positive results. Social distancing works, but it's not going to work for America.

Say there's a virus that causes severe disease in the obese. A 500 pound morbidly obese man named Sam who uses a hoverround for mobility has this disease. He's in BAD shape. BUT, there is a solution; proper rest and exercise will stimulate the immune response to fight off the virus. The problem is Sam can rest with the best, but he is not mobile enough to do the rigorous exercise needed to stimulate the immune system. He tries anyway and ends up falling down the stairs. Now he is in a coma.

Sam's obesity made him vulnerable to the virus and at the same time made it impossible for him to do what was needed to get the disease under control. The science behind the solution is sound. Sam's own poor health habits have put this solution out of his reach.

Sam is America. The system, society and culture we have in place has obviously made us extremely vulnerable to an infectious disease. These same factors and their consequences make it impossible to effectively manage this situation using social distancing. All we've done so far is isolate a large number of the population. That's slowed the spread, but the actual guidelines, regulations, precautions and steps to function as a society while practicing social distancing in the coming months aren't there. Proper testing. Not there in both the actual tests and chemical components and capacity to process the tests rapidly. Competent healthcare system. Not there. Competent leadership. Not there. Adequate stimulus. Not there.

The system and society we have in place and accepted as adequate by most Americans isn't designed for social distancing and all of the other post lockdown requirements experts like to rattle off.

When I see yet another study that has identified yet ANOTHER Coronavirus superpower and I see the well worn STAY HOME warning I just wonder if they know that if their dreams of an unprecedented supervirus come true we are just going to have to take it on the chin?

And this isn't to scare anyone. There's no point in being scared. I think people just need to be more realistic about the situation we're in. If this virus doesn't slow down during the summer people are going to realize we can't just social distance this away in America.

I mean I'm sure these guidelines will remain in place because the alternative is survival of the fittest. But the economy will suffer and people will get sick and die. It's going to happen no matter what we do really and people should be more mentally prepared for it. It's definitely not the end of the world though. This is just different because a disease hasn't given us one on the chin in awhile. It's just one to grow on.

Oh, and studies show Coronavirus can increase the incidence of long rambling posts by at least 20%. Of that 20%, 178% will die.

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1. Its man made


2. They're probably saying that to stretch out the "stay in home" order/"quarantine"/martial law to implement whatever new thing they wanted to put place.

3. Hope yall are waking up.
 
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