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Yeah I remember

Police corruption and racial profiling should be first on the list.

That shyt has ruined thousands of lives..

Nah, gotta make sure those gays feel comfortable by knowing their "struggle" is equivalent to ours. :beli:

This nikka is still pandering to gays in his on day on of his second term. Why? He doesn't have to campaign anymore. Where the fukk is the Escobar season y'all been promising for two years?
 

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Nah, gotta make sure those gays feel comfortable by knowing their "struggle" is equivalent to ours. :beli:

This nikka is still pandering to gays in his on day on of his second term. Why? He doesn't have to campaign anymore. Where the fukk is the Escobar season y'all been promising for two years?

All true, but no need to put "struggle" in quotation marks. Homosexuals suffer very real systemic discrimination. Statistically, they are much more likely to suffer economic and healthcare-related discrimination than the average American, not to mention actual violence. In fact, last year, there were more violent hate crimes against homosexuals than against members of all religions combined. If you calculate the hate crime rate per population, what you find is that last year, LGBT people suffered 11.5 hate crimes per every 100,000 people, while Black folks suffered 6.5 hate crimes per every 100,000 people.

The point of putting Black issues back on the agenda isn't to marginalize homosexuals, but to give Black issues their proper standing. Ideally, there should be coalitions forming that can address them together and with more force than individual groups, because there is a lot of shared ground between issues that concern Black people and homosexuals (poverty, education, healthcare.)
 

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Nah, gotta make sure those gays feel comfortable by knowing their "struggle" is equivalent to ours. :beli:

This nikka is still pandering to gays in his on day on of his second term. Why? He doesn't have to campaign anymore. Where the fukk is the Escobar season y'all been promising for two years?

SCUST



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Yeah, I'm sure MLK's Bible was just the closest one laying around within easy reach and they just used it out of convenience... :rudy:

I see the inauguration has the bamboozelement factor at high levels. West's points were completely clear and accessible. Yall can call him a hater, but I'd like to see someone dispute anything he said here.

Completely agree man. Its a damn shame how they pimped mlk like that yesterday. Disgusting.

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Yeah, I'm sure MLK's Bible was just the closest one laying around within easy reach and they just used it out of convenience... :rudy:

I see the inauguration has the bamboozelement factor at high levels. West's points were completely clear and accessible. Yall can call him a hater, but I'd like to see someone dispute anything he said here.

Well said friend.

That stunt was completely disrespectful to MLK's legacy and Dr. West was once again spot on.
 

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What does any of that have to do with the fact that Obamacare has helped plenty of black people?

Is that all Obama should be about though? Helping black people? Was mlk only concerned with helping black people? Its zombies like you that make me sick.

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Is that all Obama should be about though? Helping black people? Was mlk only concerned with helping black people? Its zombies like you that make me sick.

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For real.

Dr. King probably got killed because he went real hard against Capitalism, wealthy interests, Military Industrial Complex and kept hammering points about poverty and worker's rights. They probably feared a socialist movement taking hold like the African American Civil Rights movement, and they probably feared Dr. King was going to be the one leading it.

Don't believe me, here's Dr. King's own words about what he really stood for:

Since I am a preacher by trade, I suppose it is not surprising that I have seven major reasons for bringing Vietnam into the field of my moral vision. There is at the outset a very obvious and almost facile connection between the war in Vietnam and the struggle, and others, have been waging in America. A few years ago there was a shining moment in that struggle. It seemed as if there was a real promise of hope for the poor - both black and white - through the Poverty Program. Then came the build-up in Vietnam, and I watched the program broken and eviscerated as if it were some idle political play thing of a society gone mad on war, and I knew that America would never invest the necessary funds or energies in rehabilitation of its poor so long as Vietnam continued to draw men and skills and money like some demonic, destructive suction tube. So I was increasingly compelled to see the war as an enemy of the poor and to attack it as such.

Beyond Vietnam: A Time to Break Silence - Dr. Martin Luther King Jr

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So if the Republicans passed that plan in the 90s, like they wanted to, they would have been helping Black people and honoring Dr. King's legacy?

Yes, why not? Dr. Kings legacy is equality and economic/social opportunity for all. If the Republican Party made steps torward that goal they would be helping black people and honoring his legacy.

What y'all forget is that Dr king supported politicians when he was here. JFK didn't stand for everything that dr king stood for, and he damn sure didn't enact it all. Dr. King wasn't concerned with politics and who said what, he was concerned with results. A lot of black people have lost sight of this approach. We are so busy looking to fight, or point out negativities that we miss out on what's actually important or what can actually benefit us.
 

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Is that all Obama should be about though? Helping black people? Was mlk only concerned with helping black people? Its zombies like you that make me sick.

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No. I didn't say any of that. A question was posed to me "what has Obama done in regards to civil rights or helping black people" and I answered.

You dudes are so preoccupied with attacking Obama, that you can't read or think logically.
 

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what is different between the "black" "struggle" and that of homosexuals?

A moped and an S600 are both vehicles, right? What's the difference? :comeon:

To address one of The Real's points; Obama has marginalized black issues in favor of gay issues. The dude can lecture about gay rights but was quick to back down in that Gates situation. He can address gay rights in his inaugural address but made sure to let us know he isn't, "the president of black America." Gee thanks for telling us how the government works Mr. Obama. :aicmon:

I don't think it's totally unreasonable to expect a black man to understand and specifically address black issues and prosecution. Especially a guy who has pandered to pretty much every other demographic out there.
 

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A moped and an S600 are both vehicles, right? What's the difference? :comeon:

To address one of The Real's points; Obama has marginalized black issues in favor of gay issues. The dude can lecture about gay rights but was quick to back down in that Gates situation. He can address gay rights in his inaugural address but made sure to let us know he isn't, "the president of black America." Gee thanks for telling us how the government works Mr. Obama. :aicmon:

I don't think it's totally unreasonable to expect a black man to understand and specifically address black issues and prosecution. Especially a guy who has pandered to pretty much every other demographic out there.

I agree. He has definitely marginalized Black issues in favor of gay issues. My only point was that giving Black issues the priority they deserve doesn't and shouldn't include marginalizing gay issues as if those people don't also have a very real struggle of their own. Ideally, there should be collaboration and coalition since many of the issues that affect Black people are also issues that affect gay people.
 

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maybe it's the media's fault, but Cornel is becoming a 'one trick pony'. I think he's doing a disservice to his legacy by letting himself becoming the token Obama hater
 
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