Coretta Scott King was against illegal immigration because she saw it hurt black labor

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

To not understand illegal immigration is to not understand basic capitalism.

To spend your whole life in a capitalist country and not understand basic capitalism is you failing you. You can't blame anyone else for that. Competition is not going to disappear if illegals do because it's the nature of capitalism.

Then y'all let the Napoleon collective rabblerouse you guys by pretending they give a fukk about black issues showing a bunch of people whose parents hopped a fence decades ago who are in the same boat as 21 Savage.

Who will you guys blame for your failure to understand capitalism when they start putting robots to work instead of Mexicans?

What did Obama and Bernie Sanders understand in 2015 that they didn't in 2005?

 

[panopticon]

Illegals/Undocumented workers hurt labor movements in general.

This is why the rich want them in the first place, to undermine benefits and fair wages. It still doesn't absolve undocumenteds for their complicity in this arrangement. We can't build a strong working class anywhere if there's a group of people willing to undermine certain just standards and values just so they can survive.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Notice how many working/poor people take on the mindset of supercaptalists? They are willing to undermine worker protections and the entire concept of organized labor just so they can get their little dollars with the delusion that they are some type of businessman or capitalist. They'll be in threads like this laughing at people who can't compete with undocumented workers doing menial labor when it was not too long ago that people who looked like them/us (if not our very folks) were forced into those positions.

There is dignity in work. We should have a right to it and a livable income no matter what we do. We can't have any of this with "workers", especially imported workers, who don't even understand this concept or somehow think they are going to be the next Jeff Bezos.

This was Bernie Sanders ENTIRE argument. He was all about worker solidarity and all that...but he was against illegal immigrants because he knew that bringing in unskilled undocumented labor would directly compete with the very people he was trying to help domestically...

Sanders and immigration? It's complicated

This was in fukking July 2015...then he switched up to run for president

Bernie Sanders Against Open Borders: "Would Substantially Lower Wages In This Country"







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[panopticon]

Just gonna quote what I wrote earlier.

I really don't get it breh. To me it's such a clear-cut case of advancing our economic and political interests. The vast majority of black people in this country are poor or working class at best. Putting the most vulnerable members of our community in head-to-head competition for employment, housing, education, and basic services with desperate immigrants makes absolutely no sense.

Part of the problem is likely the messenger (Trump). A lot of folks just can't get past his antics and nonsense and admit that he may actually have a few decent arguments when it comes to immigration.

Another part of the problem is the concerted effort by both political parties (prior to Trump's election) to suppress constructive debate on the economic and social impact of immigration. On the left, people concerned with immigration have been derided as racists and xenophobes. On the right, prior to Trump, those concerned with immigration were vilified as economic protectionists (the business wing of the Republican party has always been pro-immigration to crush labor costs and increase aggregate demand for their products and services).

Something everyone in this debate needs to grapple with is the reality that everyone isn't able to vault themselves into the upper-middle class. That goes for both the black community and Americans more broadly. Everyone doesn't have what it takes to become a 6-figure earner, and that's no knock on them - and nothing to be ashamed of.

We either build a country where people willing to work - no matter their level of education or sophistication - are able to live lives with dignity and purpose, or we don't. Sustained high levels of legal and illegal immigration make it impossible to achieve that.

 

[The Amerikkkan Idol]

Normally i don't respond to shytty posters in the red but since you want it.

Ask yourself why would it hurt blacks? A mexican with no english or history hopping a fence and being able to take a spot from you says more about you than them. After all these years you just a worker and not a boss.

Harsh realities

It says that it's a lot cheaper to hire them than it is us?

It's a lot more racist to assume illegal immigrants are all idiots who hae no skills than it is to recognize how they drive down wages for Blacks, Latinos, poor Whites.

Plus, rich CACs will hire somebody who speaks Spanish just to communicate with the illegals.

There's a heavy illegal presence in construction for this reason.

Illegals/Undocumented workers hurt labor movements in general.

This is why the rich want them in the first place, to undermine benefits and fair wages. It still doesn't absolve undocumenteds for their complicity in this arrangement. We can't build a strong working class anywhere if there's a group of people willing to undermine certain just standards and values just so they can survive.

This

And you said the key word "POOR"

Why do black people have over a trillion dollars leaving the neighborhoods and are "POOR"? It's because we aren't invested in ourselves.

Because the system is designed to keep us poor.

Black people being steered into criminal subprime mortgages by bankers has nothing to do with us being "irresponsible".

Redlining has nothing to do with us being irresponsible.

Those would be the LEGAL immigrants that nobody is concerned about But will have a heart attack if Hector gets to come over here and cut grass and sugarcane

You're an idiot if you only think illegal immigrants cut grass.

They work forestry & in construction and in every other job too.

Its not just progressives. I'm not pushing a conservative argument.

"Progressives" used to be against illegal immigration

You know that guy Bernie Sanders?

Bernie Sanders said illegal immigrants hurt domestic workers his whole career until he wanted to run for president: Sanders and immigration? It's complicated



How about that guy Barack Obama in 2005?


Obama’s 2005 remarks reflect strong stance on controlling immigration

Sen Barack Obama Illegal Immigration | User Clip | C-SPAN.org FULL CLIP:
Sen. Barack Obama on Illegal Immigration | C-SPAN.org



How about democrat representative Barbara Jordan in 1995?

Yes, the key words " used to be".

YOur party, including the CBC are the main ones marching and crying about those kids on the border now.

Talking about America has gotta be "all inclusive".

They even forced Bernie Sanders to back off that shyt, which is why I don't support his ass.

 

[Hardest Since MC Ren]

Thats why you bring in LEGAL workers.

And even temporary worker or seasonal visas are DOCUMENTED immigration. They're counted, regulated, and monitored. H-2B Temporary Non-Agricultural Workers

Temp visas are adjusted annually. For example in 2019 they didn't expand the program! Domestic labor needs change AND the government reacts to whatever trends are occurring! Thats what LEGAL immigration is supposed to do! Visa rules create shortage of seasonal workers

You seem to not understand this.

We're talking about people who LITERALLY DO. NOT. EXIST. ON. PAPER.

Undocumented immigrants literally have NO paperwork. And theres an estimated 15-20 million of them. You don't even know because they're UNDOCUMENTED.




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You're an idiot breh

Legal immigration hurt Americans more than illegal immigration
Speak on that...immigrant

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

You're an idiot breh

Legal immigration hurt Americans more than illegal immigration
Speak on that...immigrant

Not black labor, which is the poorest and least skilled...

You sure you wanna do this? :rockwtfusay:

I got the data...


Illegal Immigration: The Impact on Wages and Employment of Black Workers:



Opportunities of Black Workers A Briefing Before The United States Commission on Civil Rights Held in Washington, DC:




Your move :letmesee:


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[Astroslik]

Notice how many working/poor people take on the mindset of supercaptalists? They are willing to undermine worker protections and the entire concept of organized labor just so they can get their little dollars with the delusion that they are some type of businessman or capitalist.

That’s the ironic thing about this

A lot of these dudes aren’t even middle class (let alone upper middle class), they’re one legislation away from having Juan or Pedro compromise their livelihoods

Not to mention these same dudes have younger relatives that are affected substantially from illegal immigration (black youth are hurt the most due to entry level “starter jobs” and temp agencies phasing them out)

Look at what’s going on in Los Angeles and Chicago

 

[The Fade]

It is known that Hispanics box blacks out of work and try to get people fired. If they are in charge of hiring thy go even harder

Had a story here too about how one of these brehitos was kissing up to all his white superiors but was being a little cut up to his black superior(a black coli poster)

I don’t give a fukk about any of them or their plight

 

[the bossman]

We can't build a strong working class anywhere if there's a group of people willing to undermine certain just standards and values just so they can survive.

Congress been pushing tax code for decades that further transfers damn near ALL the wealth in this country to the top 0.1% year after year. Literally wiping out the entire middle class before our very eyes. But yet yall worried about Hector and José working some temp jobs. As if it would make a difference in the grand scheme of things. After illegal immigrants are gone what's the next boogeyman gonna be - robots?

Yall get distracted by the most frivolous shyt I swear.

anyway we been back and forth on this, the immigrants ain't the issue.

the issue is the employers, but you love capitalism so you'll never have a strategy to solve this other than isolation.

To not understand illegal immigration is to not understand basic capitalism.

To spend your whole life in a capitalist country and not understand basic capitalism is you failing you. You can't blame anyone else for that. Competition is not going to disappear if illegals do because it's the nature of capitalism.

Then y'all let the Napoleon collective rabblerouse you guys by pretending they give a fukk about black issues showing a bunch of people whose parents hopped a fence decades ago who are in the same boat as 21 Savage.

Who will you guys blame for your failure to understand capitalism when they start putting robots to work instead of Mexicans?

nikkas think if illegal immigrants weren't around then there would be this strong working class utopia of labor unions with high wages for all

nikkas quiet as hell about the tax code further widening the racial wealth gap but want to rah rah over Juan Carlos

 

[EndDomination]

Do you know who Cesar Chavez was?

Who himself said illegal immigrants HURT poor American workers

Cesar Chavez's Complex History on Immigration

Did you actually read the article.
There is a firm awareness that its not the undocumented immigrants hurting American workers, its the companies willing to break federal law regarding wages that are hurting the workers.

His position also evolved over the years.

 

[Danktoker94]

nikkas really be dappin that space jam c00n nikkas a lame suburb nikka u can tell he dayroom

 

[EndDomination]

Goldman Sachs is a rich white guy frathouse. If a woman much less a non white woman climbed the ranks she did it on her back or knees.

Women can't be good at jobs?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

That’s the ironic thing about this

A lot of these dudes aren’t even middle class (let alone upper middle class), they’re one legislation away from having Juan or Pedro compromise their livelihoods

Not to mention these same dudes have younger relatives that are affected substantially from illegal immigration (black youth are hurt the most due to entry level “starter jobs” and temp agencies phasing them out)

Look at what’s going on in Los Angeles and Chicago

Good luck getting a entry level job in south Florida if you're black

Not only do you have discrimination based on race, but non-spanish speakers are assed out:

SLS Hotels to pay $2.5M for discrimination of Haitian workers in Miami

https://www.theroot.com/is-the-south-more-racist-than-other-parts-of-the-us-1820893655

www.sun-sentinel.com/news/sfl-lang2may13-story.html

Yes, Miami has language barriers, but what happened to ‘the customer is always right’?

Survey Indicates That Job Discrimination Is Getting Worse For Young African Americans | Florida Employment Lawyer

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Did you actually read the article.
There is a firm awareness that its not the undocumented immigrants hurting American workers, its the companies willing to break federal law regarding wages that are hurting the workers.

His position also evolved over the years.

yeah. clearly you didn't read coretta's letter either.

she wanted more penalties against republicans removing sanctions for employing illegals, effectively hurting black labor en masse.