Collision May Have Formed the Moon in Mere Hours, Simulations Reveal

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Billions of years ago, a version of our Earth that looks very different than the one we live on today was hit by an object about the size of Mars, called Theia – and out of that collision the Moon was formed. How exactly that formation occurred is a scientific puzzle researchers have studied for decades, without a conclusive answer.

Most theories claim the Moon formed out of the debris of this collision, coalescing in orbit over months or years. A new simulation puts forth a different theory – the Moon may have formed immediately, in a matter of hours, when material from the Earth and Theia was launched directly into orbit after the impact.

“This opens up a whole new range of possible starting places for the Moon’s evolution,” said Jacob Kegerreis, a postdoctoral researcher at NASA’s Ames Research Center in California’s Silicon Valley, and lead author of the paper on these results published in The Astrophysical Journal Letters. “We went into this project not knowing exactly what the outcomes of these high-resolution simulations would be. So, on top of the big eye-opener that standard resolutions can give you misleading answers, it was extra exciting that the new results could include a tantalisingly Moon-like satellite in orbit."

The simulations used in this research are some of the most detailed of their kind, operating at the highest resolution of any simulation run to study the Moon’s origins or other giant impacts. This extra computational power showed that lower-resolution simulations can miss out on important aspects of these kinds of collisions, allowing researchers to see new behaviors emerge in a way previous studies just couldn’t see.

A Puzzle of Planetary History


Understanding the Moon’s origins requires using what we know about the Moon – our knowledge of its mass, orbit, and the precise analysis of lunar rock samples – and coming up with scenarios that could lead to what we see today.

Previously prevailing theories could explain some aspects of the Moon’s properties quite well, such as its mass and orbit, but with some major caveats. One outstanding mystery has been why the composition of the Moon is so similar to Earth's. Scientists can study the composition of a material based on its isotopic signature, a chemical clue to how and where an object was created. The lunar samples scientists have been able to study in labs show very similar isotopic signatures to rocks from Earth, unlike rocks from Mars or elsewhere in the solar system. This makes it likely that much of the material that makes up the Moon originally came from Earth.

In previous scenarios where Theia sprayed out into orbit and mixed with only a little material from Earth, it’s less likely we’d see such strong similarities – unless Theia was also isotopically similar to Earth, an unlikely coincidence. In this theory, more Earth material is used to create the Moon, particularly its outer layers, which could help to explain this similarity in composition.

There have been other theories proposed to explain these similarities in composition, such as the synestia model – where the Moon is formed inside a swirl of vaporized rock from the collision – but these arguably struggle to explain the Moon’s current orbit.

This faster, single-stage formation theory offers a cleaner and more elegant explanation for both these outstanding issues. It could also give new ways to find answers for other unsolved mysteries. This scenario can put the Moon into a wide orbit with an interior that isn't fully molten, potentially explaining properties like the Moon's tilted orbit and thin crust – making it one of the most enticing explanations for the Moon’s origins yet.

Getting closer to confirming which of these theories is correct will require analysis of future lunar samples brought back to Earth for study from NASA’s future Artemis missions. As scientists gain access to samples from other parts of the Moon and from deeper beneath the Moon’s surface, they will be able to compare how real-world data matches up to these simulated scenarios, and what they indicate about how the Moon has evolved over its billions of years of history.

A Shared Origin

Beyond simply learning more about the Moon, these studies can bring us closer to understanding how our own Earth became the life-harboring world it is today.

“The more we learn about how the Moon came to be, the more we discover about the evolution of our own Earth,”
said Vincent Eke, a researcher at Durham University and a co-author on the paper. “Their histories are intertwined – and could be echoed in the stories of other planets changed by similar or very different collisions.”

The cosmos is filled with collisions – impacts are an essential part of how planetary bodies form and evolve. On Earth, we know that the impact with Theia and other changes throughout its history are part of how it was able to gather the materials necessary for life. The better scientists can simulate and analyze what’s at play in these collisions, the more prepared we are to understand how a planet could evolve to be habitable like our own Earth.



Collision May Have Formed the Moon in Mere Hours, Simulations Reveal
 
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Yep. It's been known for a while that the moon came from the earth. I disagree with this theory of how it happened, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see NASA finally admitting the moon's origin.
 

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Yep. It's been known for a while that the moon came from the earth. I disagree with this theory of how it happened, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see NASA finally admitting the moon's origin.

It's interesting and exciting news.
 
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the moon came FROM the earth???:wtf:

Scientists are basically investigating The Ejected Ring Theory - one of a few theories of how the moon formed. With the new simulation, researchers are saying it is likely the moon was created from the amalgamation of debris from Theia and Earth. The most notable information is regarding the time frame. The thought that it may have formed in hours is mind blowing.
 
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Makes sense since Earth only has one moon orbiting but all the others have multiple except Venus and Mercury because of proximity to the sun.
 

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Yep. It's been known for a while that the moon came from the earth. I disagree with this theory of how it happened, but I'm pleasantly surprised to see NASA finally admitting the moon's origin.


Finally? This has been the working assumption for as long as I've been paying attention.


NASA-based page dated 2001 giving the theory and stating that it is widely accepted:

 

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Finally? This has been the working assumption for as long as I've been paying attention.


NASA-based page dated 2001 giving the theory and stating that it is widely accepted:


I think what he meant is that NASA has finally taken a major step towards testing the accuracy of the most accepted theory (Giant Impact/Ejected Ring Theory), through the high-powered simulation. It’s important because of talks of The Multiple-Impact Hypothesis, as well as other models (Co-Formation/Re-Collision and Collision Chain), which casts doubt on NASA’s long-standing view. The Synestia Model was briefly addressed in the article, showing their attempt to lend credence to their theory.
 
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Its such a coincidence how all these rare events took place for life to be formed but yet the idea of God existing is silly.
 

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Its such a coincidence how all these rare events took place for life to be formed but yet the idea of God existing is silly.

I can sense your tension about the disregard of religion, yet the acceptance of science.

It is important to know that science is rooted in theory/testing/re-testing/rejection of an idea, based on evidence. If you notice, I did not say proof.

Science and religion have opposing views on creation and just about everything else but are strangely similar. Science helps us to understand the world around us, while religion tells us why these things have come about. Both move beyond to a “source” to show where all things emanate from.

Dr. Duncan MacDougall set out to “prove” the existence of a soul within the human body, in the 21 grams experiment. One of the fundamentals of science is that nothing can truly be proven. Of course, his findings were not accepted by the scientific community and no basis for his theory was found.

It is perfectly fine to believe in the existence of God (if you choose), just as it is believed that the sun will rise tomorrow. Neither can be proven, but most would say that it is assumed and likely based on “evidence”.
 
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I can sense your tension about the disregard of religion, yet the acceptance of science.

It is important to know that science is rooted in theory/testing/re-testing/rejection of an idea, based on evidence. If you notice, I did not say proof.

Science and religion have opposing views on creation and just about everything else but are strangely similar. Science helps us to understand the world around us, while religion tells us why these things have come about. Both move beyond to a “source” to show where all things emanate from.

Dr. Duncan MacDougall set out to “prove” the existence of a soul within the human body, in the 21 grams experiment. One of the fundamentals of science is that nothing can truly be proven. Of course, his findings were not accepted by the scientific community and no basis for his theory was found.

It is perfectly fine to believe in the existence of God (if you choose), just as it is believed that the sun will rise tomorrow. Neither can be proven, but most would say that it is assumed and likely based on “evidence”.
I have no tention at all. I believe in both science and God. But i think its funny how the realm of possibilities at play factor in for God being real as impossible or not likely and not the creation thru science. The theoritical outcome thru science is wayyyyy more skeptical then a supreme being existing. Thats all im saying
 
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I have no tention at all. I believe in both science and God. But i think its funny how the realm of possibilities at play factor in for God being real as impossible or not likely and not the creation thru science. The theoritical outcome thru science is wayyyyy more skeptical then a supreme being existing. Thats all im saying

I understand where you are coming from.

We need both God and science to be aware and fulfilled in this world.
 
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