How the Quran was formed. (Historical Breakdown)

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Ignore him. He’s just trying to derail the thread topic and possibly get it closed so he can protect Islam
You want to avoid what the religion says and post some weird fantasy shyt in an effort to protect your innovated jesus worship . . . This shut your thread down:

Doesn't the Quran clearly and explicitly state that "Muhammad worship" is a sin/against the Law?

Stop misleading people and go and do some reading clown
 

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I reside with your mother you worthless sack of shyt :dead:

"Lihyot ‘am chofshi be’artzenu, ’Eretz Tziyon v'Yerushalayim" don't write zionist threats to me shyt bag

Edit - you know I was trying to recall when I've conversed with you before - looking at the Iran thread, now I remember- you were threatening to blow up mosques in the US :heh:

Let me get onto homeland you fukking terrorist
My mother isn’t a pre-teen British white girl I don’t think you would like her.
 

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Doesn't the Quran clearly and explicitly state that "Muhammad worship" is a sin/against the Law?

Muhammad said “Im nothing but a Warner” but Muslims proceed to deify him through outrageous legends, bed time stories, tall tales and mythology passed down for generations

I once asked a very smart Rabbi during a lecture “b-b-but what about MUHAMMAD ” when discussing “Abrahamic faiths”



He laughed and said why do you want to hear about him? Muhammad from ISLAM likely didn’t exist and the Quran is a “comic book” :banderas:
 

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You want to avoid what the religion says and post some weird fantasy shyt in an effort to protect your innovated jesus worship . . . This shut your thread down:



Stop misleading people and go and do some reading clown

Question: why don’t you make your own thread exposing Christianity? :jbhmm:

Try it. Let’s see if you can make an intelligent argument without spewing insults
 

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Question: why don’t you make your own thread exposing Christianity? :jbhmm:

Try it. Let’s see if you can make an intelligent argument without spewing insults
Your thread is debunked as an insult to Muslims, made up of nonsense. There is literally nothing intelligent in this thread. I have asked you a very basic question repeatedly about which Bible you read and you cannot answer. Within this thread you've even mentioned never read the Quran, you only watch videos from people who hate the religion. You've as much as have shared videos in here from extreme right wing anti Muslim organisations as your evidence in here.

Look at your last post speaking to your imaginary Rabbi . . You should've asked him if he was permitted to pray in your church or a mosque :mjgrin: . Utter fairytales you're resorting too while constantly attacking another religion :skip:

Do you think you deserve any respect?

Kindly, stop spreading misinformation and get a life.
 

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i think it’s time for you to stop derailing this thread :manny:
The derail can stop sure - just explain your comment? Sounds like a hate crime to me . .. Does it correlate to when you threatened to blow up mosques in North America? What should we do about it?
 
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The detail can stop sure - just explain your comment? Sounds like a hate crime to me . .. Does it correlate to when you threatened to blow up mosques in North America? What should we do about it?
You’re proving the OPs point. Islam is less religion but more of an ethno-nationalist movement. It’s why Muslims treat and correlate critiques of Islam with racism. It’s not a matter of ideological underpinnings but a racial and nationalistic one. It’s why Islam struggles to co-exist with other denominations without conflict unless in a dominate position and Muslims struggle to adapt to western laissez-faire societies. Furthermore, it’s why Baathist Arab nationalism was able to garner such wide support and why hatred of Jewish nationalism is so fierce.

It really was a revelation when I found out the Quran is only supposed to be recited in Arabic and is no longer holy if recited in another language.

Thus why you react irrationally and violently to this thread. You believe it’s an assault on your very being and blood line instead of how a Christian would debate the points raised but ultimately live and let live. :ehh:


@DoubleClutch let me know where I’m wrong
 

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You’re proving the OPs point. Islam is less religion but more of an ethno-nationalist movement. It’s why Muslims treat and correlate critiques of Islam with racism. It’s not a matter of ideological underpinnings but a racial and nationalistic one. It’s why Islam struggles to co-exist with other denominations without conflict unless in a dominate position and Muslims struggle to adapt to western laissez-faire societies. Furthermore, it’s why Baathist Arab nationalism was able to garner such wide support and why hatred of Jewish nationalism is so fierce.

It really was a revelation when I found out the Quran is only supposed to be recited in Arabic and is no longer holy if recited in another language.

Thus why you react irrationally and violently to this thread. You believe it’s an assault on your very being and blood line instead of how a Christian would debate the points raised but ultimately live and let live. :ehh:


@DoubleClutch let me know where I’m wrong
Why have you posted this waffle and avoided explaining your hate comment? Kindly explain your comment and avoid changing the topic
 

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Why have you posted this waffle and avoided explaining your hate comment? Kindly explain your comment and avoid changing the topic
Breh, all you do is change the topic and deflect. You take no accountability for anything in the Quran or that’s taught in Islam.

You know you can’t defend your religion so you say “WHATABOUT ___________ *insert random Bible scripture (you Muslims dont even believe in anyway)

It’s annoying breh :beli:

This isn’t a debate or competition. It’s just exposing a lie you’ve been fed.

Just open your eyes leave Arab Supremacy & “Muhammadism” and come to Jesus since you already claim to believe in him…. you are halfway there.

Plus you’re not an Arab so why are you going so hard for Muslims? Assuming you are black, would’ve enslaved you back in Muhammad’s day just like they are doing in Libya right now



This could be you. It’s not impossible to change your life
 

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Breh, all you do is change the topic and deflect. You take no accountability for anything in the Quran or that’s taught in Islam.

You know you can’t defend your religion so you say “WHATABOUT ___________ *insert random Bible scripture (you Muslims dont even believe in anyway)

It’s annoying breh :beli:

This isn’t a debate or competition. It’s just exposing a lie you’ve been fed.

Just open your eyes leave Arab Supremacy & “Muhammadism” and come to Jesus since you already claim to believe in him…. you are halfway there.

Plus you’re not an Arab so why are you going so hard for Muslims? Assuming you are black, would’ve enslaved you back in Muhammad’s day just like they are doing in Libya right now



This could be you. It’s not impossible to change your life

Brother, you are an idiot. The first responses to you were to let you know that Muslims dont muhammad worship - That is literally against the religion, and also ends your thread. You do not accept that and continue with nonsense made up lies, and share far right white extremist terrorist content as your "evidence" - it's actually pathetic.

You seem to be on some effort to convert me to your idol worship (this is how Judaism views you btw), so when I ask you which version of the bible to read to get the "truth", you cannot tell me. Can you not understand why that is troublesome, when there are probably hundreds of versions in circulation? You cant even defend your own religion, the only way for you to attempt to, is by trying to throw shade at Muslims. It's pathetic :dead:
 

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Brother, you are an idiot. The first responses to you were to let you know that Muslims dont muhammad worship - That is literally against the religion, and also ends your thread. You do not accept that and continue with nonsense made up lies, and share far right white extremist terrorist content as your "evidence" - it's actually pathetic.

You seem to be on some effort to convert me to your idol worship (this is how Judaism views you btw), so when I ask you which version of the bible to read to get the "truth", you cannot tell me. Can you not understand why that is troublesome, when there are probably hundreds of versions in circulation? You cant even defend your own religion, the only way for you to attempt to, is by trying to throw shade at Muslims. It's pathetic :dead:



From my perspective praying to Muhammad 5x a day is akin to “worship” or deification

Also Muslims associate Muhammad with Allah because they must mention him ONLY and ONLY HIM in the Shahada which is your declaration of FAITH

I bear witness that there is no God but God (Allah – i.e. there is none worthy of worship but Allah), and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah

It’s pretty straightforward breh,

Christians pray to Jesus and their salvation depends on believing in him because in Christianity JESUS IS GOD
MUSLIMS APPLY THE SAME ATTRIBUTES TO MUHAMMAD INCORRECTLY

Muhammad can’t save you.

Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

You follow Muhammad just a regular man who claimed to get a “revelation” and his mission was to WARN the people of his tribe or the Arabs about “judgement day”

You can just open up the Bible and read what Jesus says or even John the Baptist who also claimed to be a WARNER.

Actually most Jewish prophets of GOD warned his people of Gods wrath/judgement

Now think about it……. Did Muhammad claim to be from the tribe of Israel?

Was he a “Jewish Prophet”?

What GOD was he working for?

Was he WARNING the Jews, Jewish Christians or Gentile believers who were “grafted in Israel”?

NO. Because they already knew the Bible & Injeel

He was “warning” random tribes of people who he convinced to believe themselves to be ISHMAELITES and/or ARABS who were literally Pagans.

He thinks they are OWED something simply because they “came from Ishmael or Hagar”.

But if they actually read the TORAH, they’d know Hagar was a SLAVE not the WIFE and the PROMISE was to ISSAC and his lineage

So breh, are you an ISHMAELITE or an ARAB PAGAN?

Why do you need Muhammad? :jbhmm:

You are just willingly accepting a b*stard child identity and inheriting the fate of a cursed people

Genesis 12:1-3 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you. "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

You can be part of Israel or you can continue cursing Gods people because your Imams tell you to.

Put down the Quran. Go pick up a Bible read it to understand Gods plan and he will reveal its message through the Holy Spirit

THEN go read the Quran if you want to understand Islam and Muhammad.
 

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From my perspective praying to Muhammad 5x a day is akin to “worship” or deification

Also Muslims associate Muhammad with Allah because they must mention him ONLY and ONLY HIM in the Shahada which is your declaration of FAITH

I bear witness that there is no God but God (Allah – i.e. there is none worthy of worship but Allah), and Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah

It’s pretty straightforward breh,

Christians pray to Jesus and their salvation depends on believing in him because in Christianity JESUS IS GOD
MUSLIMS APPLY THE SAME ATTRIBUTES TO MUHAMMAD INCORRECTLY

Muhammad can’t save you.

Say, "I am not something original among the messengers, nor do I know what will be done with me or with you. I only follow that which is revealed to me, and I am not but a clear warner."

You follow Muhammad just a regular man who claimed to get a “revelation” and his mission was to WARN the people of his tribe or the Arabs about “judgement day”

You can just open up the Bible and read what Jesus says or even John the Baptist who also claimed to be a WARNER.

Actually most Jewish prophets of GOD warned his people of Gods wrath/judgement

Now think about it……. Did Muhammad claim to be from the tribe of Israel?

Was he a “Jewish Prophet”?

What GOD was he working for?

Was he WARNING the Jews, Jewish Christians or Gentile believers who were “grafted in Israel”?

NO. Because they already knew the Bible & Injeel

He was “warning” random tribes of people who he convinced to believe themselves to be ISHMAELITES and/or ARABS who were literally Pagans.

He thinks they are OWED something simply because they “came from Ishmael or Hagar”.

But if they actually read the TORAH, they’d know Hagar was a SLAVE not the WIFE and the PROMISE was to ISSAC and his lineage

So breh, are you an ISHMAELITE or an ARAB PAGAN?

Why do you need Muhammad? :jbhmm:

You are just willingly accepting a b*stard child identity and inheriting the fate of a cursed people

Genesis 12:1-3 The LORD had said to Abram, "Leave your country, your people and your father's household and go to the land I will show you. "I will make you into a great nation and I will bless you; I will make your name great, and you will be a blessing. I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

You can be part of Israel or you can continue cursing Gods people because your Imams tell you to.

Put down the Quran. Go pick up a Bible read it to understand Gods plan and he will reveal its message through the Holy Spirit

THEN go read the Quran if you want to understand Islam and Muhammad.

Again, Muslims do not worship Mohammad (as much as you incorrectly want to keep repeating it. . . ). It's clear you keep saying this as a deflection to Christian idol worship which you partake in, after changing the Bible a million times and ascribing weird practises never preached by Jesus :mjgrin:

I really do want to believe you though, so please tell me which version of the Bible I should read to learn this truth you talk about :mjgrin:. (Going to make a wild guess, crickets again??)
 
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