How the Quran was formed. (Historical Breakdown)

[merklman]

“Yes, this discussion concerns types of forbidden sexual intercourse, the punishment for which (assuming all the criteria are met -- witnesses, warning, functioning Sanhedrin, Temple exists, etc.) is the death penalty. Those who are not "of age" for these particular crimes, who do manage to perform them, are thus spared the death penalty. Those above the specified age are liable to capital punishment. And so a dividing line is established -- 9 years and younger, free of capital liability; 9 years 1 day and older -- subject to the death penalty (assuming all the criteria are met).

So no, they are not discussing biology and they are not even discussing the sexuality of young children. It's a judicial-legal discussion of hypotheticals about perpetrators of different ages, for the sole purpose of establishing the age for potential capital liability, and it is all based on the interpretation of Biblical verses and phrases (primarily Lev. 20:13), not what the rabbis know about biology or have observed in real life.

All legal systems deal with questions like this. What is the definition of a minor? What is the legal culpability of a minor? When can a minor be tried as an adult? There is less going on here than meets the eye.”



You also think Jews are drinking baby blood?

Look at this Zionist scum Nazi condoning pedophilia

Sick fukk

At least 200 children and women rescued from Lev Tahor Jewish sect in Guatemala

Controversial sect accused of rape, human trafficking and forced marriage of children

www.independent.co.uk

You mustve got that visa to shytrael real quick after your trafficking pedo ring got busted

 

[merklman]

You see how this thread is about Islam but people (Muslims I assume) are trying to make it about Jews

“Whataboutisms”

Proves my point Islam isn’t even a religion but simply a means of legitimizing the attack on other religions

Muslims will never take a critical look inside their mosques/at the Quran itself or even in the mirror

God forbid (liberally) they actually look at actual Arab history during the period Muhammad lived and Islam was formed

That’s why Islam still hasn’t had a reformation

But it’s coming in due time

The irony . . A thread started by a "Christian" (who cannot confirm which Bible one should read) to attack Islam

How's the go fund me for your brain injury

Send me the link, I'll donate

 

[Mister Terrific]

You see how this thread is about Islam but people (Muslims I assume) are trying to make it about Jews

“Whataboutisms”

Proves my point Islam isn’t even a religion but simply a means of legitimizing the attack on other religions

Muslims will never take a critical look inside their mosques/at the Quran itself or even in the mirror

God forbid (liberally) they actually look at actual Arab history during the period Muhammad lived and Islam was formed

That’s why Islam still hasn’t had a reformation

But it’s coming in due time

The New Testament is just an overall more progressive and easier to amalgamate into existing paradigms religion than Islam. Christianity at its core is about the faithful existing under siege whilst being the minority. Jesus was a minor plebeian existing under Roman/pagan domination. It’s passive aggressive at best, and more about finding inner salvation in comparison to Islam which is about domination and if you aren’t subjugating the unbelievers you are in essence unfaithful to its core tenet. Muhammad of course being a warlord.

It’s why Islam can’t exist as a minority religion in most countries and once Muslims make up a sizable percentage of your population you start seeing social strife as the state in of itself not being Islamic is a sin. Christianity has never tied itself to the state and is why all over the world you will find Christian communities that have survived as minorities for centuries because whatever identity the state takes is not in opposition to the pillars of Christianity.


Furthermore Christianity is cosmopolitan in nature being spread by urbanite communities in Greece, Egypt, Aksum and the Levant and initially adopted by middle class Roman citizens. You see it in Asia and Africa. Wealthy urbanites were a lot more likely to convert to Christianity.

Where as Islam is a religion of the rough desert and a totem for those living a brutal existence. No wonder the steppe nomads adopted Islam in mass.

 

[Mister Terrific]

Look at this Zionist scum Nazi condoning pedophilia

Sick fukk

At least 200 children and women rescued from Lev Tahor Jewish sect in Guatemala

Controversial sect accused of rape, human trafficking and forced marriage of children

www.independent.co.uk

You mustve got that visa to shytrael real quick after your trafficking pedo ring got busted

Whose prophet consummated his marriage with a child again? Whose religion routinely condones child marriage?

Iraq: Parliament Poised to Legalize Child Marriage

Iraq’s parliament is moving forward an amendment to the country’s Personal Status Law that would allow Iraqi religious authorities, rather than state law, to govern marriage and inheritance matters at the expense of fundamental rights.

www.hrw.org

Why are you sharing details of your crew fakkit?

Lucky you escaped to Israel before they got to you pedo scum

I just figured you British Muslims ran in the same circles?

 

[merklman]

Whose prophet consummated his marriage with a child again? Whose religion routinely condones child marriage?

Iraq: Parliament Poised to Legalize Child Marriage

Iraq’s parliament is moving forward an amendment to the country’s Personal Status Law that would allow Iraqi religious authorities, rather than state law, to govern marriage and inheritance matters at the expense of fundamental rights.

www.hrw.org

I just figured you British Muslims ran in the same circles?

So you confirming you a zionist jew cac pedo fakkit

To answer your question - Judaism. It's been posted in this very thread how you like to fukk under 9yr old, and you yourself defending the right to do that

 

[DoubleClutch]

The New Testament is just an overall more progressive and easier to amalgamate into existing paradigms religion than Islam. Christianity at its core is about the faithful existing under siege whilst being the minority. Jesus was a minor plebeian existing under Roman/pagan domination. It’s passive aggressive at best, and more about finding inner salvation in comparison to Islam which is about domination and if you aren’t subjugating the unbelievers you are in essence unfaithful to its core tenet. Muhammad of course being a warlord.

It’s why Islam can’t exist as a minority religion in most countries and once Muslims make up a sizable percentage of your population you start seeing social strife as the state in of itself not being Islamic is a sin. Christianity has never tied itself to the state and is why all over the world you will find Christian communities that have survived as minorities for centuries because whatever identity the state takes is not in opposition to the pillars of Christianity.


Furthermore Christianity is cosmopolitan in nature being spread by urbanite communities in Greece, Egypt, Aksum and the Levant and initially adopted by middle class Roman citizens. You see it in Asia and Africa. Wealthy urbanites were a lot more likely to convert to Christianity.

Where as Islam is a religion of the rough desert and a totem for those living a brutal existence. No wonder the steppe nomads adopted Islam in mass.

To sum it up.

Christianity is a personal religion where individual believers (the church) make up an invisible spiritual kingdom which “conquers” evil by doing good deeds and spreading a good influence on the world

Christians can live in the world and blend in while not being “of the world”

Islam is a “group” based ideology not unlike a Gang set on world domination and earthly riches and pleasures through a theocratic type “kingdom” or caliphate

In order to survive or exist they need to be at opposition of all others and must be top of the totem pole because they must impose their way of life

They can’t assimilate or live in a society under other cultures because their lifestyle is “works” or tradition based

Islam is slavery to ALLAH or whoever makes the rules basically

So the leaders in Muslim countries operate as if they have authority by “GOD” to control, punish, tax or fight anyone who doesn’t “submit”.

This is Sharia Law which Muslims sees as best for all people to please God whether these people like it or not.

There’s no “free will” in Islam or even freedom

And there’s no compromising in a devout Muslims life which might make sense if we lived in a perfect world or could even achieve “perfection”

But the reality is most Muslims are hypocrites if they follow their own Quran and still the worst of sinners just like Muhammad was

 

[Mister Terrific]

So you confirming you a zionist jew cac pedo fakkit

To answer your question - Judaism. It's been posted in this very thread how you like to fukk under 9yr old, and you yourself defending the right to do that

مستند الإجماع:
1-قوله تعالى: {يَئِسْنَ مِنَ الْمَحِيضِ مِنْ نِسَائِكُمْ إِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَاثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَاللَّائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ} [الطلاق: 4]. وجه الدلالة: جعل اللَّه سبحانه وتعالى عدة اللائي لم يحضن ثلاثة أشهر، ولا تكون العدة ثلاثة أشهر إلا من طلاق في نكاح أو فسخ، فدل ذلك على أنها تزوج وتطلق، ولا إذن لها فيعتبر، وأن نكاحها قبل البلوغ جائز .
2- عن عائشة -رضي اللَّه عنها- قالت: تزوجني رسول اللَّه -صلى اللَّه عليه وسلم- لِسِتِّ سنين، وبنى بي وأنا بنت تسع سنين .
3- تزوج قدامة بن مظعون -رضي اللَّه عنه- ابنة الزبير حين نَفِسَتْ، فقيل له، فقال: ابنة الزبير إن مت ورثتني، وإن عشت كانت امرأتي .
4- زوج علي -رضي اللَّه عنه- أم كلثوم ابنته وهي صغيرة عمر بن الخطاب -رضي اللَّه عنه- . وجه الدلالة من هذه الأحاديث: أن عائشة، وابنة الزبير، وأم كلثوم بنت علي كنَّ صغيرات، وعندئذٍ لم يكنَّ في حال يعتبر إذنهن فيه
موسوعة الإجماع في الفقه الإسلامي، الطبعة الأولى 2012، المجلد الثالث من إعداد الدكتور ظافر بن حسن العمري، (3/ 147-144)​

1- Allah said: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated.” Quran 65:4

This verse says that the Iddah for those who haven’t menstruated is three months. And since that the Iddah is only prescribed in the case of divorce, this proves that:

A-She can marry and can get divorced.

B- Marrying her off before puberty is allowed.

C- Her consent is neglected.

2- Ayisha said: “Allah's Messenger married me when I was six years old, and consummated his marriage when I was nine”.

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3- Muhammad’s companion Qudamah Bin Math’un married the daughter of Al-Zubayr when she was born. He said: “If I die then the daughter of Al-Zubayr will inherit me. If I live then she will be my wife”

4- Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and the fourth caliph, married off his minor daughter Um Kulthum to Umar the second caliph.

These reports show that Ayisha, Al-Zubayr’s daughter and Ali’s daughter were minors which means their consent was unviable.
Mawsu’at Al-Ijma’ Fil-Fiqh Al-Islami, Volume 3 by professor Zafir Al-Amri, first edition 2012, published by Dar Al-Fadhilah, Al-Maktabah Al-Shamilah, vol.3 p.144-14

 

[merklman]

مستند الإجماع:
1-قوله تعالى: {يَئِسْنَ مِنَ الْمَحِيضِ مِنْ نِسَائِكُمْ إِنِ ارْتَبْتُمْ فَعِدَّتُهُنَّ ثَلَاثَةُ أَشْهُرٍ وَاللَّائِي لَمْ يَحِضْنَ} [الطلاق: 4]. وجه الدلالة: جعل اللَّه سبحانه وتعالى عدة اللائي لم يحضن ثلاثة أشهر، ولا تكون العدة ثلاثة أشهر إلا من طلاق في نكاح أو فسخ، فدل ذلك على أنها تزوج وتطلق، ولا إذن لها فيعتبر، وأن نكاحها قبل البلوغ جائز .
2- عن عائشة -رضي اللَّه عنها- قالت: تزوجني رسول اللَّه -صلى اللَّه عليه وسلم- لِسِتِّ سنين، وبنى بي وأنا بنت تسع سنين .
3- تزوج قدامة بن مظعون -رضي اللَّه عنه- ابنة الزبير حين نَفِسَتْ، فقيل له، فقال: ابنة الزبير إن مت ورثتني، وإن عشت كانت امرأتي .
4- زوج علي -رضي اللَّه عنه- أم كلثوم ابنته وهي صغيرة عمر بن الخطاب -رضي اللَّه عنه- . وجه الدلالة من هذه الأحاديث: أن عائشة، وابنة الزبير، وأم كلثوم بنت علي كنَّ صغيرات، وعندئذٍ لم يكنَّ في حال يعتبر إذنهن فيه
موسوعة الإجماع في الفقه الإسلامي، الطبعة الأولى 2012، المجلد الثالث من إعداد الدكتور ظافر بن حسن العمري، (3/ 147-144)​

1- Allah said: “And those who no longer expect menstruation among your women - if you doubt, then their period is three months, and [also for] those who have not menstruated.” Quran 65:4

This verse says that the Iddah for those who haven’t menstruated is three months. And since that the Iddah is only prescribed in the case of divorce, this proves that:

A-She can marry and can get divorced.

B- Marrying her off before puberty is allowed.

C- Her consent is neglected.

2- Ayisha said: “Allah's Messenger married me when I was six years old, and consummated his marriage when I was nine”.

QuranX.com The most complete Quran / Hadith / Tafsir collection available!

3- Muhammad’s companion Qudamah Bin Math’un married the daughter of Al-Zubayr when she was born. He said: “If I die then the daughter of Al-Zubayr will inherit me. If I live then she will be my wife”

4- Ali, Muhammad’s cousin and the fourth caliph, married off his minor daughter Um Kulthum to Umar the second caliph.

These reports show that Ayisha, Al-Zubayr’s daughter and Ali’s daughter were minors which means their consent was unviable.
Mawsu’at Al-Ijma’ Fil-Fiqh Al-Islami, Volume 3 by professor Zafir Al-Amri, first edition 2012, published by Dar Al-Fadhilah, Al-Maktabah Al-Shamilah, vol.3 p.144-14

Zionist jew cac - no one is reading your pedo defenses. . . Did your rabbi suck you off after getting circumcised? The Pedo'ing starts as early as possible for you sick demons

 

[Mister Terrific]

Zionist jew cac - no one is reading your pedo defenses. . . Did your rabbi suck you off after getting circumcised? The Pedo'ing starts as early as possible for you sick demons

I’m not Jewish and your behavior is really verging on UK hate crime law violation. Should we report it?

https://www.met.police.uk/true-vision-report-hate-crime

 

[merklman]

I’m not Jewish and your behavior is really verging on UK hate crime law violation. Should we report it?

https://www.met.police.uk/true-vision-report-hate-crime

Hate crime? For exposing you as a jewish pedophile defender? You anti muslim zionist fakkit pedophile piece of shyt who's been openly cheering Gazans getting massacred? off yourself you filthy scum. Maybe we should report you to child services and the police? Are children safe around you?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

There's plenty of Muslims on this site, let's ask how many of them "Mohammad worship " @FAH1223 do you?

Doesn't the Quran clearly and explicitly state that "Muhammad worship" is a sin/against the Law?

 

[merklman]

Doesn't the Quran clearly and explicitly state that "Muhammad worship" is a sin/against the Law?

Exactly . . Yet you have retarded OP innovating weird shyt about Muslims to deflect from telling us which version of the Bible is correct. That question is kryptonite for these clowns

 

[Mister Terrific]

Hate crime? For exposing you as a jewish pedophile defender? You anti muslim zionist fakkit pedophile piece of shyt who's been openly cheering Gazans getting massacred? off yourself you filthy scum. Maybe we should report you to child services and the police? Are children safe around you?

Have it your way. Let’s see what the MET has to say. You on a VPN? Do you reside in Huddersfield?

 

[merklman]

Have it your way. Let’s see what the MET has to say. You on a VPN? Do you reside in Huddersfield?

I reside with your mother you worthless sack of shyt

"Lihyot ‘am chofshi be’artzenu, ’Eretz Tziyon v'Yerushalayim" don't write zionist threats to me shyt bag

Edit - you know I was trying to recall when I've conversed with you before - looking at the Iran thread, now I remember- you were threatening to blow up mosques in the US

Let me get onto homeland you fukking terrorist

 

[DoubleClutch]

I’m not Jewish and your behavior is really verging on UK hate crime law violation. Should we report it?

https://www.met.police.uk/true-vision-report-hate-crime

Ignore him. He’s just trying to derail the thread topic and possibly get it closed so he can protect Islam