CM Punk FIRED from AEW; Returns to WWE

[Reality Check]

This is true, and I definitely see your point of view here, but regarding HHH, that buck stopped with Vince.

I mean, wrestler's court existed too, so you're not wrong.

I think it's two things with AEW that set it apart. First, the buck doesn't seem to stop with TK. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Vince fired Punk, you'd know it was Vince making the final call. TK is a weak leader, so people assume that Danielson is (part of) making that final call, not TK.

Second, Danielson is in an official position here working with legal. I guess the closest is having wrestlers on the booking committee in WCW and WWF, but WCW and WWF didn't have dudes huddling with actual legal execs to make personnel decisions.

...though that's if this is true. Sapp is a credulous clown, after all. However, if it's true, I do think those are two differences from the norm of having wrestlers in positions of command in the past.

Snowman didn't grow up in the business, and is a billionaire dweeb to put it nicely. The best thing for Snowman to do honestly is have someone else with wrestling background run the company for him and be there to sign off on things. The problem Snowman has is he has his mark goggles on at all times, and it allows people to take advantage of him.

 

[jerniebert]

This is true, and I definitely see your point of view here, but regarding HHH, that buck stopped with Vince.

I mean, wrestler's court existed too, so you're not wrong.

I think it's two things with AEW that set it apart. First, the buck doesn't seem to stop with TK. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Vince fired Punk, you'd know it was Vince making the final call. TK is a weak leader, so people assume that Danielson is (part of) making that final call, not TK.

Second, Danielson is in an official position here working with legal. I guess the closest is having wrestlers on the booking committee in WCW and WWF, but WCW and WWF didn't have dudes huddling with actual legal execs to make personnel decisions.

...though that's if this is true. Sapp is a credulous clown, after all. However, if it's true, I do think those are two differences from the norm of having wrestlers in positions of command in the past.

I understand your point of view, but according to this article HHH was involved in some capacity.

CM Punk was fired from WWE on his wedding day | Sporting News

Punk says he never quit the company and was terminated -- and the choice of day was not a mistake.

www.sportingnews.com

Plus wasn't John Cena involved in getting Alex Riley and someone else fired.

This isn't the last time something like this will happen. WWE has been doing this for years and they're doing just fine.

 

[MenacingMonk]

What? You said creative control isn’t the same as employment. I never said anything about the 2 being related. I just brought up how different Punk is compared to others. (how much power he was given compared to others considered his “peers.”)

 

[Jmare007]

Pat Patterson was like 46 when he became Vince's right hand man

Baba and Inoki were the bosses and top stars of their respective companies.

JCP/WCW is a good example of active wrestlers having management roles and ending up in disaster.

WWE then had La Nariz.

This thing with AEW ain't new. You can disagree with the decision of having Danielson in that position, I think it's a valid criticism, but no one can act like this is AEW doing something we haven't seen before or some shyt.

Besides, y'all focusing on Punk but Dragon also a big reason why we haven't had to endure Jungle Boy anymore

"That kid is a menace Tony, suspend him "

 

[KFBF]

Pretty hilarious that you have the Stooge World Order goofing on Snowman allowing Danielson to have a say when Vince McMahon often consulted with wrestlers (including HHH/HBK for the Montreal Screwjob) during the attitude era.

Bad idea then as well.

 

[jerniebert]

 

[Reality Check]

Besides, y'all focusing on Punk but Dragon also a big reason why we haven't had to endure Jungle Boy anymore

"That kid is a menace Tony, suspend him "

Dude fukked himself over and deserves every receipt he has coming to him for what he did at All In.

 

[MushroomX]

Besides, y'all focusing on Punk but Dragon also a big reason why we haven't had to endure Jungle Boy anymore

I think some TSC'ers just a bit shocked that Bryan was REALLY about that life, and put out the Green Light.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Imagine Hunter or Nick Khan placing AJ Styles as the head of “disciplinary commission” for the entire company

This the type of shyt TK is doing with his company lmao.

You get off TK's back. Punk lunged at him with a chainsaw. He could have died that night trying to defend himself against that animal Brooks......can't even say his name.

You think he wants this? It just happ-ened!

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

This is true, and I definitely see your point of view here, but regarding HHH, that buck stopped with Vince.

I mean, wrestler's court existed too, so you're not wrong.

I think it's two things with AEW that set it apart. First, the buck doesn't seem to stop with TK. Maybe I'm wrong, but if Vince fired Punk, you'd know it was Vince making the final call. TK is a weak leader, so people assume that Danielson is (part of) making that final call, not TK.

Second, Danielson is in an official position here working with legal. I guess the closest is having wrestlers on the booking committee in WCW and WWF, but WCW and WWF didn't have dudes huddling with actual legal execs to make personnel decisions.

...though that's if this is true. Sapp is a credulous clown, after all. However, if it's true, I do think those are two differences from the norm of having wrestlers in positions of command in the past.

TK said himself on national TV when it was announced that the final decision to fire Punk was his and his alone. The disciplinary committee just recommended it.

 

[Cattle Mutilation]

I understand your point of view, but according to this article HHH was involved in some capacity.

CM Punk was fired from WWE on his wedding day | Sporting News

Punk says he never quit the company and was terminated -- and the choice of day was not a mistake.

www.sportingnews.com

Plus wasn't John Cena involved in getting Alex Riley and someone else fired.

This isn't the last time something like this will happen. WWE has been doing this for years and they're doing just fine.

I mean in the pro sports your top players are going to have a say on who comes in and who goes out.

You think someone like LeBron doesn’t have some input on who the Lakers cut from the roster in the preseason to get it down to size or who gets traded?

 

[Boondox Black]

 

[AMcV'88]

imagine finding out a vegan with CTE who's supposed to be your pal had a say in whether you should be fired or not

 

[King Sun]

So WWE heads on here was saying Punk should leave because of the elite are mad because he was fired from AEW

 

[EzekelRAGE]

So WWE heads on here was saying Punk should leave because of the elite are mad because he was fired from AEW

Is that a statement or question