CashmereThoughts
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If he did what they say he did he deserved it.
CLIVE DAVIS speaks on MICHAEL JACKSON confronting JERMAINE JACKSON over diss song "WORD TO THE BADD"
- Thread starter KENNY DA COOKER
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The_King_of_Everything
Yeah.
Your becoming my favorite poster breh
This is my first time hearing this and got damn Jermaine went IN
this is more vulgar than most hip hop diss tracks
If this was "softened" and "changed the focus", the OG version was probably
thephatmack
Pro
The most interesting thing to me here is that Jermaine says he changed his skin..
Yet he said on national tv that he had a skin condition so had to do it.
Not saying this is conclusive but if you connect the dots properly somebody wasn't the goodie two shoes portrayed.
Yet he said on national tv that he had a skin condition so had to do it.
Not saying this is conclusive but if you connect the dots properly somebody wasn't the goodie two shoes portrayed.
Prior to 1984's "VICTORY TOUR" ....the infamous touring and talent super agent Norby Walters wanted in on the 1981 jackson's Triumph tour..
so use to having his way since he was considered the man who had his way at MCA RECORDS representing everyone from Eric B and Rakim to PATTI LABELLE and STEELY DAN ...he usually "got what he wanted"//
but he didn't do it diplomaticaly according to a federal indictment handed down years later in 1988 how Norby Walters employed his "muscle" Micheal Franceze of the COLUMBO FAMILY to "intimidate" the Jackson's manager at the time into handing over booking privileges to Walters, the same way he "convinced" other artists such as Dionne Warwick and the numerous college athletes he extorted following thier signing to pro teams:
Micheal Franceze of the Columbo Family
The indictment further states that in 1981, Walters enlisted Franzese to intimidate the manager of the Jackson 5 into giving Walters the booking contract for the group's tour that year. Walters never did get the contract. Although Franzese has been accused of having had at least one enemy beaten, he says he never threatened anyone on behalf of Walters or Bloom. If someone invoked his name to accomplish the same thing. Franzese says, he can't help it.
The FBI investigation began in March 1987, shortly after a rival sports agent in Illinois, who had signed athletes previously under contract to Walters and Bloom, was beaten and slashed in her office by a masked assailant. Ironically, there have been no arrests in that case, and it was not mentioned in the indictment. http://si.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1067699/2/index.htm
After not being able to land the 81 "Triumph" tour, Norby Walters refused to miss out on this "meal" (the jacksons) particularly when the Jacksons were preparing to start what was considered at the time the biggest pop music tour of all time...the 1984 Victory Tour.
The Jacksons didn't forget Walter's previous aggressive attempt, so they fought "fire with fire" when Michael Jackson hired Frank Dileo whom happened to be a former keyperson from Epic Records the home of the jacksons as his manager and also tour manager...
It didn't hurt either that Frank was a Mob affiliate as well....a good friend of Joe Isrgo of the GAMBIONO Family.
Norby Walters and his COLUMBO friend Micheal Franceze didn't want those problems
.Frank Dileo played up to his "mafia look well" along with his signuature pony tail and cigar always in tact...he later was hired to play a role in the Martin Scorcese film "GOODFELLAS" as the figure who "whacks" joe pesci's character in the movie...
Still the VICTORY money was just too much for the Columbo family to pass up...they wanted in....Frank Dileo who wasn't a made man but had the respect of all 5 mafia families found a suitable "role" for the Columbo family as long as it didn't have Norby Walters or Michael Franceze and his goons dealing directly with the Jacksons...so as a result Irving Azoff the chariman of MCA records and associate of Walters and Franceze , was made "tour consultant"
Don't think it was some patsy little ghost job....it came with the benifit of Azoff being director of merchandising which allowed the Columbo family to eat well off of many of the products i.e (tshirts, items) associated witht the tour.
Azoff if you recall is the "poison dwarf" who help start ticketmaster and is one of the OG's of LIVE NATION.
Buh Buh Buh wait it gets worst....
Everybody wanted to EAT off this tour...next thing you know you got various black promoters upset that the JACKSONS an urban iconic group is not utilzing any black booking agencies and promoters.
so Al Sharpton tries to PLAY the role of advocate for the black promoters and threatens to have boycotts of the tour in all the major cities it hits......
Azoff is pissed and wanted AL TAKEN CARE OF
Because this isn't the first time Azoff and MCA records had to deal with Sharpton, they were fully aware of Sharpton mob ties and "federal informant" job as well.....Azoff just wanted to "shake" Sharpton up by sending MCA RECORDS record promoter/mob enforcer to the job .but it didn't go so well as planned
"Pisello had once told an unnamed executive of MCA Records that he could "take care" of the Reverend Al Sharpton, a New York civil rights leader who had threatened to boycott certain record companies and rock concerts.
Pisello, whom Rudnick referred to as "a Mafia enforcer," may even have threatened to kill Sharpton. In a January 20, 1988 interview with Newsday, Sharpton, who was working as an FBI informant, said that after he threatened to boycott Michael Jackson concerts, "one of these nice mobsters threatened to kill me. Sal Posillo (sic) . . .
"They got a guy to sit on a meeting with me and let him threaten me on behalf of one of the biggest record company presidents in the business."
The March 24, 1988 issue of Rolling Stone magazine reported that Azoff, who had a financial interest in the Michael Jackson (VICTORY) tour, admitted to having been the executive whom Pisello approached with an offer to "take care" of Sharpton. Pisello's alleged threat against Sharpton is still under investigation, but to date has not been supported by other witnesses. http://www.moldea.com/MCAMusic.html
Upon hearing of this conflict Dileo ever the diplomat and not wanting to bring anymore negative press to the tour, sat down with Sharpton , despite the fact that no deal was giving to black promtoers to do business with the tour..Al Sharpton was giving the job of "Community Relations Director"........
So basically the VICTORY TOUR was one big ass meal that EREBODY WANTED A PIECE OF....
and it validates what MICHAEL JACKSON states IT DON'T MATTER IF YOU BLACK OR WHITE...
CAUSE PEOPLE AIN'T SHYT PERIOD!!
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Young/Nacho\Drawz
...come on let's picture the possibility...
What do you mean by shadow side of the industry?That's when the shadow side of the industry went intomode on Mike.Plotted on ways to destroy his image.
SuikodenII
Where's Suikoden VI??????
I literally just 
listening to this......talking about changing his shade
listening to this......talking about changing his shade 
International S.
"He never had the makings of a varsity athlete"
mike walked down the stairs slowly..." So your lil greasy face ass is making diss songs " let bubbles off the leash... bubbles jumped on jermaine's lap and hissed at him, nikka was mad shook
MVike28
right around the ACC
no talking to the media....no replying back on wax....not even a phonecall....MJ went DOLO peter pan style up in his grill
just imagine Mike coming thru that window.... like..."is their a problem breh?"
he had Jermaine heartbeat sounding like sashquatch feet..thundering shaking the concrete
i can't brehs..im crying in the office..
iceberg_is_on_fire
Honolulu Blue Ski Mask Way
he lying...... Clive Davis is the one who said Mike was looking for his a$$
"Michael said that Jermaine was avoiding him and he couldn’t find him anywhere."
then he got word from Clive that Jermaine was at his parents house
that's why Mike came thru that window...catch him off guard right at his mama house..on some WHUSSUP NOW NIKKA?!?!?? type of shyt
Jermaine couldn't hide....he was on some "Don't take it personal" type of shyt...
but MIKE wasn't hearing that .......
and got what he wanted to lyrics changed to the song on the official release......
can't front Jermaine came hard on that original version...
but MIKE pulled a boss move that many of these supergoon rappers wouldn't even pull
when these rappers get dissed on a personal tip ...they go to "war" on TWITTER
sheeeeeeeeeit MIKE came by his gottdamn self without the rent a crips and the zombies from THRILLER
REAL NICCAS CLIMB THRU WINDOWS ON SUNDAY FAMILY DINNER
I'm legit in tears here.
@ Jermaine getting hoed by his little brother
That's the part of Mike that people don't give enough props to.
Joe Jackson was a real nikka from Chicago.He knew how the music business worked because he was a musician himself.He schooled Mike on the history of black musicians and how they got shytted on by the industry.He knew how much was stolen from artist like Little Richard and Muddy Waters.
Mike came at them snakes like a wolf in sheep's clothing.Peter Pan on the surface, but searing with revenge beneath the surface, on some Shaka Zulu shyt.
He pissed off them powers when he one upped Paul Mccartney and took control of the Beatles Catalog.
Called up Little Richard and just gave him back his catalog(valued at 4 million dollars).....NO CHARGE...on strictly some respect for the pioneers shyt..Lil Richard had to beto see lil ol demure Mike stomping on giants like that.Mike looking
on the surface, internally scowling at the industry
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Unlike Jay, he really was paying them back for what they did to the Cold Crush.
That's when the shadow side of the industry went into
"So they say he loves children, huh?"
In terms enormity of enemies, Mike was going against some Juggernauts.Ain't no rap nikkaz seeing them kind of biblical creatures Mike had on his back.They'd be paralyzed by fear.Only rapper that came close to having that kind of heart was Pac.
I didn't know he did that shyt for Little Richard. Mike was the realest nikka ever (besides the nose jobs). I do believe the Vitilago shyt too.
Whole thread has me in tears...
Whitty Hutton
these posters are TRASH
this leather faced nikka here...