Civil War | Discussion Thread | A24 (4/24/2024, Dir/Writer. Alex Garland, starring Kirsten Dunst)

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the elastic said:
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From the Jerrod Carmichael "Rothaniel" thread....



You wanna be emotionally retched by personal issues :stopitslime:

I understand your distaste now
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You are impressed by shallow surface level "themes" that aspire to be more resinous than they actually are in practice... I understand your jubilation... A lot of Marvel fans feel the same way about all of their films :francis:
 
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Left.A1 said:
You are impressed by shallow surface level "themes" that aspire to be more resinous than they actually are in practice... I understand your jubilation... A lot of Marvel fans feel the same way about all of their films :francis:
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Saw this in IMAX and I’m surprised at how much I enjoyed this. Read some of the reviews where the film doesn’t really lean into the politics and reasons behind the civil war and was worried, but I ended up liking it for that reason.

Not sure if it’s just in IMAX but the sound quality and design was crazy and the camera work was really immersive.
 
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the elastic said:
This is just wrong. Him being the president in itself tells us that's he's important. And he himself IS the main plot.
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It really doesn't... You could have done this movie and not ever shown his face or given him any speaking roles and nothing would have changed because his character isn't needed or important ...I'm talking about about him as a character in a scripted movie not his title which we all understand and know the definition of

Also I thought you said the plot was about the horror of war or whatever campy stuff you were talking about earlier now it's about him? Do I have you right?
the elastic said:
Why do we need to know his blood type and dog's name to csre about him?
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This is how good films actually build stakes... You develop characters... why would anyone care if the president lives or dies or goes to the moon when you don't know shyt about him? There's no buy in OR disdain developed so why would anyone care about his arch... He's essentially like one of those fleshbags in a Jason film....no development and paper thin :mjlol:
the elastic said:
He's in the predicament because he split the country up and went into civil war! :mjtf:
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According to who and how? This is you having to fill in the blanks due to lack of a fleshed out plot...Lol you have to create this backstory because it is only sparsely offered in the film. Nowhere does it detail why the US is divided or over what...the closest thing you get is a slight sidebar about him being 3rd term but we don't even know what happened to place him in that position.. You're doing the job of the writers which is a indication of a pretty weak script.
the elastic said:
It's meant to be ambiguous to an extent, but they feed us enough information to get the gist.
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This is the mark of laziness or fear of backlash in the writing room... "it's meant to be ambiguous regarding world building and character development because we were afraid of political backlash"....yikes ...that's wild bruh
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The President can only be an NPC to the viewer if you go your way to dismiss the character because you're not happy with the information (or lack of) given to you.
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The president doesn't even have a paragraph worth of dialogue he's unimportant because the film tells us so...didn't you just say the film isn't even about the war or how we got here (the thing that he would have direct impact over and the thing that would make him a more relevant and important character in the film if they actually fleshed this aspect out) but it's about the dread that war brings? You don't need him in this film to tell that story which is why he's unimportant..
the elastic said:
The stakes for the audience are that we don't know if they will make it to him before the WF kills him and we're curious about what he will say in his final interview
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:picard: how unambitious and shallow... From "it's a tale of the horrors of war" to "what if they don't get the money shot for Instagram" lol.... Those aren't stakes bro...whats on the line if this doesn't happen? They aren't as famous? I'm glad you said this actually becuse it speaks to the dull vapid nature of the lead character/'s like I've been saying
 
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Micky Mikey said:
Yes, and war journalism was the perfect lens to tell the story especially if they didn't want to stir too much controversy by delving into the political side of things. Plus good war journalists have to be a bit impartial to do their job.
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there was a ton of obvious allegory regarding freedom of press and LITERALLY protecting the press and pulling them out of harms way. Only one side in this film did that. The only other info we got said that journalists would get killed just for being in DC.
 
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