Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

[Johnny Kilroy]

Matthew 3:17, 17:5, Mark 7:9, Luke 3:22 and 9:35 ALL say there is no debate and when contrasted with Quran 6:101 proves they're not the same.​

Not really. 'Son' is a title, not a genealogical reference. If Allah is 'all-knowing' why didn't he know that?
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Most of them (95%+) have never read the Quran or hadith for themselves so what they agree/disagree with is immaterial. Another example: Allah has no personal relationship with humanity. YHWH does.

If the evidence were 'laughable', there would be no 'debate'.​

It is laughable and there is no debate

You’d be better off arguing that Muhammad plagiarized Moses and Jesus. That is far closer than what you’re saying. You’re honestly embarrassing yourself breh.

 

[Ish Gibor]

Why do you believe god is of the mind when it’s written that he is of the heart

you sound like someone who habitually doesn’t feel heard, and are spiritually malnourished. Why do you hate yourself so much?

No, I do not belief in "god". As I explained earlier on, god stems from a Germanic pantheon as Germanic deity. The same way Allah (Alla) stems from its own Pantheon in Assyria. You are confused about what is what, because you lack understanding of the original languages. You are like a malfunctioned drone.

From German this became the Old Irish guth, from Proto-Celtic *gutus, from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰuHtus, from *ǵʰewH- (“to call on, invoke”).

And the Proto Scottish Gaelic “guthan”, hence “gothic”.

All these words were still used interchangeable in the old codex (books) by first converts from / to Gnosticism.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

It is laughable and there is no debate

Then you should be easily able to disprove it instead of merely asserting that to be the case as you've done twice now.
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You’d be better off arguing that Muhammad plagiarized Moses and Jesus. That is far closer than what you’re saying. You’re honestly embarrassing yourself breh.

No, I'm better off stating what the texts state since any and everyone can read them for themselves. As far as anyone 'embarrassing' themselves, you might want to look in the mirror.​

 

[The Fade]

No, I do not belief in "god". As I explained earlier on, god stems from a Germanic pantheon as Germanic deity. The same way Allah (Alla) stems from its own Pantheon in Assyria. You are confused about what is what, because you lack understanding of the original languages. You are like a malfunctioned drone.

From German this became the Old Irish guth, from Proto-Celtic *gutus, from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰuHtus, from *ǵʰewH- (“to call on, invoke”).

And the Proto Scottish Gaelic “guthan”, hence “gothic”.

All these words were still used interchangeable in the old codex (books) by first converts from / to Gnosticism.

Been learning Biblical Hebrew for a minute thanks for these

 

[MMS]

No, I do not belief in "god". As I explained earlier on, god stems from a Germanic pantheon as Germanic deity. The same way Allah (Alla) stems from its own Pantheon in Assyria. You are confused about what is what, because you lack understanding of the original languages. You are like a malfunctioned drone.

From German this became the Old Irish guth, from Proto-Celtic *gutus, from Proto-Indo-European *ǵʰuHtus, from *ǵʰewH- (“to call on, invoke”).

And the Proto Scottish Gaelic “guthan”, hence “gothic”.

All these words were still used interchangeable in the old codex (books) by first converts from / to Gnosticism.

or maybe its Gad?

If you dont believe in God, why waste time here?

you will eventually die and noone will care whether you lived or not or what you did or why you did it sounds like spiritual malnourishment

Bible Gateway passage: Galatians 3 - King James Version

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Then you should be easily able to disprove it instead of merely asserting that to be the case as you've done twice now.
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No, I'm better off stating what the texts state since any and everyone can read them for themselves. As far as anyone 'embarrassing' themselves, you might want to look in the mirror.​

You are biased and in denial, friend.

Every Muslim on Earth disagrees with you as you try to tell them what they believe.

Every Arabic speaking Christian disagrees with you as they call God 'Allah'.

Allah is the God of Abraham. As is YHWH, Jehovah, Elohim, etc. He created the universe in 6 days. He sent Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus.

Addressing the Jews and Christians:

Do not argue with the People of the Book unless gracefully, except with those of them who act wrongfully. And say, “We believe in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to you. Our God and your God is ˹only˺ One. And to Him we ˹fully˺ submit.”

It's funny you deny Allah is Allah in reference to Muslims because they don't believe Jesus is the son, yet you don't use the same logic when referring to Jews who also don't believe that.

I think you are very confused about a very simple thing. They are all called Abrahamic faiths because they worship the God of Abraham. This is basic, breh.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

You are biased and in denial, friend.

Neither of those assertions are true. Next....
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Every Muslim on Earth disagrees with you as you try to tell them what they believe.

I'm not telling them what they believe.
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Every Arabic speaking Christian disagrees with you as they call God 'Allah'.

False. The Arabic word for "god" is ilah. Allah is the name of the deity Muslims worship. Sounds the same, but isn't the same.
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Allah is the God of Abraham. As is YHWH, Jehovah, Elohim, etc. He created the universe in 6 days. He sent Adam, Noah, Abraham, Moses, David and Jesus.✓

Allah is not the same as YHWH and was not the "god" of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Adam, Noah, Moses, David, or Jesus.​

It's funny you deny Allah is Allah in reference to Muslims because they don't believe Jesus is the son, yet you don't use the same logic when referring to Jews who also don't believe that.

I'm not denying Allah is Allah. I'm denying that Allah is YHWH.
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I think you are very confused about a very simple thing. They are all called Abrahamic faiths because they worship the God of Abraham.

You are the one confused, sir. There are many Abrahamic faiths, but they're called that because of their reverence for Abraham, not because of the deity they worship, and Muslims don't worship the same elohim that Jews, Christians, Druze, Baha'i, etc., do.​

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

Neither of those assertions are true. Next....
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I'm not telling them what they believe.
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False. The Arabic word for "god" is ilah. Allah is the name of the deity Muslims worship. Sounds the same, but isn't the same.
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Allah is not the same as YHWH and was not the "god" of Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Adam, Noah, Moses, David, or Jesus.​

I'm not denying Allah is Allah. I'm denying that Allah is YHWH.
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You are the one confused, sir. There are many Abrahamic faiths, but they're called that because of their reverence for Abraham, not because of the deity they worship, and Muslims don't worship the same elohim that Jews, Christians, Druze, Baha'i, etc., do.​

Breh, you're just WRONG. You are not correct.

First, you are telling them what they believe. You won't find ONE SINGLE Muslim who agrees with you. And it's their faith. I think they would know much better than you who they worship.

Arab Christians call God Allah, illah is a completely different pronunciation and meaning. Have you ever traveled to the Middle East? I have to assume you're just talking with complete ignorance at this point and you don't even care to be correct.

I provided you with evidence and you've done nothing but pout, plug your ears and close your eyes.

You're no longer ignorant. Willful ignorance is a choice and not the same. You know but you're just in denial for some reason. It's kinda strange to be honest.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

Breh, you're just WRONG. You are not correct.

You are in-error. Not I.
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First, you are telling them what they believe.

False. I stated what they, themselves, told me they believe​

Arab Christians call God Allah, illah is a completely different pronunciation and meaning. Have you ever traveled to the Middle East? I have to assume you're just talking with complete ignorance at this point and you don't even care to be correct.✓

The shahada refutes everything you just stated. Arab Christians say 'ilah' which means 'god'. Allah is a name and not the same one revealed to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.​

I provided you with evidence

You provided me with assertions, not evidence. They were all invalid due to eisegesis.​

You're no longer ignorant.

You still are. We can correct that.....

What does ILAH mean?
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In some cases, it is used by Arabic-speaking Christians and Jews, although not as frequently as other titles, such as Rabb, or "Lord" - a title also used by Muslims for Allah - similar to the Hebrew use of Adonai, which is the most frequently used by Jews of all languages, along with HaShem or "the Name".

 

[Johnny Kilroy]

You are in-error. Not I.
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False. I stated what they, themselves, told me they believe​

The shahada refutes everything you just stated. Arab Christians say 'ilah' which means 'god'. Allah is a name and not the same one revealed to Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob.​

You provided me with assertions, not evidence. They were all invalid due to eisegesis.​

You still are. We can correct that.....

What does ILAH mean?​

illah refers to what we would call a “god” in English while Allah refers to The God (of Abraham, Moses and Jesus). They are 2 different words with 2 different meanings. Fact.

La illah il Allah means there is no “god” or deity or thing of worship, except Allah (The God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus)

This is very basic. You’ve been informed. And you’re choosing to be ignorant anyway.

You’re being intellectually dishonest, breh.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

illah refers to what we would call a “god” in English while Allah refers to The God (of Abraham, Moses and Jesus). They are 2 different words with 2 different meanings. Fact.

Allah is the name of the "god" of Islam, not Judaism or Christianity.
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La illah il Allah means there is no “god” or deity or thing of worship, except Allah (The God of Abraham, Moses, Jesus)

Which just proves your earlier assertion to be false since Allah is not the name given to Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.​

This is very basic. You’ve been informed. And you’re choosing to be ignorant anyway.

I'm not ignorant at all and that's yet another baseless assertion you've made.
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You’re being intellectually dishonest, breh.

You can't refute ANY of my arguments so, therefore, I must be intellectually dishonest.

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[Johnny Kilroy]

Allah is the name of the "god" of Islam, not Judaism or Christianity.
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Which just proves your earlier assertion to be false since Allah is not the name given to Abraham, Isaac, or Jacob.​

I'm not ignorant at all and that's yet another baseless assertion you've made.
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You can't refute ANY of my arguments so, therefore, I must be intellectually dishonest.

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illah and Allah are not the same words.

I keep saying this. You know this. But you keep playing dumb anyway.

Does Isa not refer to Jesus? Does Musa not refer to Moses?

Breh. Please. You are EMBARRASSING yourself. And as I said, you're being intellectually dishonest.

People have made the argument Muhammad plagiarized his Quran but what you're saying is beyond comical for a person who claims to know what they're talking about. I'd expect this sort of confusion from a completely ignorant person. We're talking about something they teach in HS Global Studies. I know people who have practiced BOTH faiths at one time or another in their life.

You are flat out lying to yourself and you should be ashamed, breh.

 

[Dafunkdoc_Unlimited]

illah and Allah are not the same words.

Allah and YHWH aren't the same "god".

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[Johnny Kilroy]

Allah and YHWH aren't the same "god".

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Fine. They just have all the same stories and all the same prophets.

They BOTH sent Abraham, Moses and Jesus huh?