Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

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Dumb negroes such as yourself with an IQ below zero babbling about the Bible all day and don't even know the history of the book itself and the people it talks about. You probably don't even know how to run your own household properly. Meanwhile these communities are creating drones that land on the moon. While you're sitting her quoting how you will go to heaven when you die?
heaven is already declared :jbhmm: we dont read the same things apparently

as I said earlier...why are you so frustrated? Is your home broken? Is your life out of order? :jbhmm:

Psalm 73:12-20

12 Behold, these are the ungodly, who prosper in the world; they increase in riches.

13 Verily I have cleansed my heart in vain, and washed my hands in innocency.

14 For all the day long have I been plagued, and chastened every morning.

15 If I say, I will speak thus; behold, I should offend against the generation of thy children.

16 When I thought to know this, it was too painful for me;

17 Until I went into the sanctuary of God; then understood I their end.

18 Surely thou didst set them in slippery places: thou castedst them down into destruction.

19 How are they brought into desolation, as in a moment! they are utterly consumed with terrors.

20 As a dream when one awaketh; so, O Lord, when thou awakest, thou shalt despise their image.

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heaven is already declared :jbhmm: we dont read the same things apparently

as I said earlier...why are you so frustrated? Is your home broken? Is your life out of order? :jbhmm:

Psalm 73:12-20



:hubie:

It's all in your head. If you actually knew something about Greek history and Greek culture you would not make such a fool out of yourself here. Having a grown man being this dumb is indeed frustrating. No wonder the Black community is in this horrible condition.

You probably don't know one word Classical Greek. lol

Heaven is English, correct?

Old English heofon "home of God," earlier "the visible sky, firmament," probably from Proto-Germanic *hibin-, a dissimilation of *himin- (source also of Low German heben, Old Norse himinn, Gothic himins, Old Frisian himul, Dutch hemel, German Himmel "heaven, sky"), which is of uncertain and disputed origin.

Perhaps it means literally "a covering," from a PIE root *kem- "to cover" (which also has been proposed as the source of chemise). Watkins derives it elaborately from PIE *ak- "sharp" via *akman- "stone, sharp stone," then "stony vault of heaven."

The English word is attested from late 14c. as "a heavenly place; a state of bliss." The plural use in sense of "sky" probably is from the Ptolemaic theory of space as composed of many spheres, but it also formerly was used in the same sense in the singular in Biblical language, as a translation of Hebrew plural shamayim. Heaven-sent (adj.) is attested from 1640s.
heaven | Origin and meaning of heaven by Online Etymology Dictionary
 
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It's all in your head. If you actually knew something about Greeks history and Greek culture you would not make such a fool out of yourself here.

You probably don't know one word Classical Greek. lol
What about the Psalms is Greek to you? :jbhmm: it would appear laughing at your own posts is confusing you

Is Jesus this man to you? he is greek I believe
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What about the Psalms is Greek to you? :jbhmm: it would appear laughing at your own posts is confusing you

Is Jesus this man to you? he is greek I believe
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No, I am not the confused one, you are and that's the whole point here. The more you post on this, the dumber you appear to be. Do you not know the Greek influence?
 
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how can one understand the intent of a message, to feel the meaning and understand the words :jbhmm:

the false conflicts all go back to Cain's perception :hubie:

You’re right. I guess I’m speaking from my own perspective. To me, religion is like university. I’ve finished undergrad so those things don’t matter as much to me. The semantics of it. I’ve studied enough to see the unity in all the messages and I’ve been blessed enough to have the truth revealed to me, which made the scriptures clear.

The purpose of religion is to build up our character and prepare us to understand the Most High.

To say what’s what flat out could be dangerous. Most won’t understand. Religion humbles is until we’re ready.

But you get to a point when the names and such don’t matter. All there is is truth.
 
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To be honest I feel like maybe we were supposed to believe in different things due to Gods plan.

Meaning some people were destined to know Jesus and others weren't.

It's weak to just deduce Christianity to brainwashing when I know plenty others who are only Christians due to their encounter with knowing Jesus and not because their parents told them so.

Besides I believe God can use anyone to expand his Kingdom.
 

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Matthew 28:19-20

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


An example of the difference would be like I previously stated: Allah has no 'son'. YHWH does.

There is no bias in what I stated and I looked at ALL the texts critically.​

God having a son is obviously debatable. That’s no evidence of God being a different entity. :heh:

Especially when what is meant by “son” is debatable. Was Jesus born of the sperm of God? What is even meant by “son”?

You have billions of Muslims on Earth who don’t agree with you. Do you have any other evidence because that’s laughable at best?
 

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No, I am not the confused one, you are and that's the whole point here. The more you post on this, the dumber you appear to be. Do you not know the Greek influence?
I do know that you sound like you are under the influence sir

 

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I do know that you sound like you are under the influence sir



You just mix and match whatever suits you, without understanding the sources and history. lol

Historically Shamayim has a completely different meaning from what Greeks interpreted. Why, because they had a different theological perspective.

Theology is derived from the Greek theologia (θεολογία), which derived from Τheos (Θεός), meaning "God", and -logia (-λογία),[4][5] meaning "utterances, sayings, or oracles" (a word related to logos [λόγος], meaning "word, discourse, account, or reasoning") which had passed into Latin as theologia and into French as théologie. The English equivalent "theology" (Theologie, Teologye) had evolved by 1362.[6] The sense the word has in English depends in large part on the sense the Latin and Greek equivalents had acquired in patristic and medieval Christian usage, although the English term has now spread beyond Christian contexts.

In the original Hebrew text the book as a whole was not named, although the titles of many individual psalms contained the word mizmor, meaning a poem sung to the accompaniment of a stringed instrument. The Greek translation of this term, psalmos, is the basis for the collective title Psalmoi found in most manuscripts, from which the English name Psalms is derived. A variant translation found in a 5th-century manuscript of the Septuagint is Psaltērion,whence the English name Psalter, which is often used as an alternative name for the Book of Psalms or for a separate collection of psalms intended for liturgical use. Rabbinic literature uses the title Tehillim (“Songs of Praise”), a curious hybrid of a feminine noun and a masculine plural ending.
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Have a nice day, dumbo low IQ negroe. lol smh
 
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You just mix and match whatever suits you, without understanding the sources and history. lol

Historically Shamayim has a completely different meaning from what Greeks interpreted. Why, because they had a different theological perspective.


Psalms | Definition & Facts

Have a nice day, dumbo low IQ negroe. lol smh
Do you know what a psalm is? :jbhmm: why do you hate black people? are you black? What is funny about what you are saying :sadcam: you sound sad and confused
 

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Johnny Kilroy said:
God having a son is obviously debatable. That’s no evidence of God being a different entity.

Matthew 3:17, 17:5, Mark 7:9, Luke 3:22 and 9:35 ALL say there is no debate and when contrasted with Quran 6:101 proves they're not the same.​

Johnny Kilroy said:
Especially when what is meant by “son” is debatable.

Not really. 'Son' is a title, not a genealogical reference. If Allah is 'all-knowing' why didn't he know that?
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You have billions of Muslims on Earth who don’t agree with you. Do you have any other evidence because that’s laughable at best?

Most of them (95%+) have never read the Quran or hadith for themselves so what they agree/disagree with is immaterial. Another example: Allah has no personal relationship with humanity. YHWH does.

If the evidence were 'laughable', there would be no 'debate'.​
 
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You really won't be able to answer that until you are dead.
What you need to do is study classical languages and cultures, to understand what they actually meant when they used certain words. Perhaps pictures will help you to understand?

A demigod or demi-god is a minor deity, or a mortal or immortal who is the offspring of a god and a human, or a figure who has attained divine status after death. Figuratively, it is used to describe a person whose talents or abilities are so superlative that they appear to approach being divine.
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Abrahamic religions often depict them as benevolent celestial intermediaries between God (or Heaven) and humanity.[1][2] Other roles include protectors and guides for humans, and servants of God.[3] Abrahamic religions describe angelic hierarchies, which vary by sect and religion. Some angels have specific names (such as Gabriel or Michael) or titles (such as seraph or archangel). Those expelled from Heaven are called fallen angels, distinct from the heavenly host.

Pentateuch

Three angels hosted by Abraham, Ludovico Carracci (c. 1610-1612), Bologna, Pinacoteca Nazionale.

Tobias and the Angel by Filippino Lippi, created between circa 1472 and circa 1482.
The Torah uses the Hebrew terms מלאך אלהים (mal'āk̠ 'ĕlōhîm; "messenger of God"), מלאך יהוה (mal'āk̠ YHWH; "messenger of the Lord"), בני אלהים (bənē 'ĕlōhîm; "sons of God") and הקודשים (haqqôd̠əšîm; "the holy ones") to refer to beings traditionally interpreted as angels. Later texts use other terms, such as העליונים (hā'elyônîm; "the upper ones").

The term 'מלאך' ('mal'āk̠') is also used in other books of the Tanakh. Depending on the context, the Hebrew word may refer to a human messenger or to a supernatural messenger. A human messenger might be a prophet or priest, such as Malachi, "my messenger"; the Greek superscription in the Septuagint translation states the Book of Malachi was written "by the hand of his messenger" ἀγγέλου (angélu). Examples of a supernatural messenger[17] are the "Malak YHWH," who is either a messenger from God,[18] an aspect of God (such as the Logos),[19] or God himself as the messenger (the "theophanic angel.")
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Do you know what a psalm is? :jbhmm: why do you hate black people? are you black? What is funny about what you are saying :sadcam: you sound sad and confused

I am Black and I know better what a "psalm" is than you do. I love my people that is why I am speaking truth, instead of the lies you are spreading.

The meanings in Hebrew are different from what you are citing, which is from a Greek perspective. You have mental issues.

Yirat Shamayim translates as “fear of heaven,” but is understood to apply to G-d too. Yirat Shamayim is an important and central spiritual quality that includes having both a fear and an awe of G-d and creation.
Yirat Shamayim | Texts & Source Sheets from Torah, Talmud and Sefaria's library of Jewish sources.

שָׁמַיִם shâmayim, shaw-mah'-yim; dual of an unused singular שָׁמֶה shâmeh; from an unused root meaning to be lofty; the sky (as aloft; the dual perhaps alluding to the visible arch in which the clouds move, as well as to the higher ether where the celestial bodies revolve):—air, × astrologer, heaven(-s).
H8064 - šāmayim - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (KJV)

Have a nice day.
 
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I am Black and I know better what a "psalm" is than you do. I love my people that is why I am speaking truth, instead of the lies you are spreading.

The meanings in Hebrew are different from what you are citing, which is from a Greek perspective. You have mental issues.


Yirat Shamayim | Texts & Source Sheets from Torah, Talmud and Sefaria's library of Jewish sources.


H8064 - šāmayim - Strong's Hebrew Lexicon (KJV)

Have a nice day.
Why do you believe god is of the mind when it’s written that he is of the heart :jbhmm:

you sound like someone who habitually doesn’t feel heard, and are spiritually malnourished. Why do you hate yourself so much? :ohhh:
 
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