Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

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I understand completely and the conclusion is correct.


False. Christians and Jews worship one elohim, Muslims worship another no matter how upset that makes you. This is shown by the texts they regard as authoritative.

The Muslim one has no 'son'. The Jewish/Christian one does. This is just one fundamental difference between them.​
Sir, what does Elohim mean? And what is the root word of Elohim?
 

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Jesus was a Jew sent to the lost sheep of Israel

Sir, what does Jesus mean? And what lost sheep are you talking about. Israel what? You mix up things into a big gumbo. Do you even understand the history of Israel vs Judah vs the Assyrians?
 

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Johnny Kilroy said:
Have you ever studied Islam? Have you ever practiced it?

Yes and no.
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No Muslim on Earth would agree with what you’re saying and I trust them over you on the subject of what they believe.

They can say whatever they want, meanwhile, the Quran (and hadith) show that the "god" they worship is not the same "god" Christians and Jews worship in the Tanakh and Gospels.​
 

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Kiss this picture, of your uber lord. Doesn't he look sweet?

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The Greek alphabet doesn't have the letter "J", nor does Afroasiatic.

"That is a modern day euphemism, the letter “J” did not appear until the 16th century. It is accredited to Giovanni Giorgio Trissino (1478-1550) He invented the glyph which was a combination of the “I” & “i” with an elongated extension to encompass the “Ja” sound which had been unwritten but was spoken".


There is a numinous naturally residing within
One moment it goes, the next it comes,
And no one is able to conceive of it.
If you lose it you are inevitably disordered;
If you attain it you are inevitably well ordered.
Diligently clean out its lodging place
And its vital essence will naturally arrive
Still your attempts to imagine and conceive of it.
Relax your efforts to reflect on and control it.
Be reverent and diligent
And its vital essence will naturally stabilize.
Grasp it and don't let go
Then the eyes and ears won't overflow
And the mind will have nothing else to seek.
When a properly aligned mind resides within you
The myriad things will be seen in their proper perspective

 

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Sir, what does Jesus mean? And what lost sheep are you talking about. Israel what? You mix up things into a big gumbo. Do you even understand the history of Israel?

All of that is irrelevant. There is a group of people today that follows the Old Testament and a group that follows the New Testament.

Regardless of if Jesus even existed, his character still ties these 2 groups of people together. This cannot be disputed. The names never mattered. Jesus, Yeshua, Isa... what’s important is what was said and far more important is what it meant.
 
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Yes and no.


They can say whatever they want, meanwhile, the Quran (and hadith) show that the "god" they worship is not the same "god" Christians and Jews worship in the Tanakh and Gospels.​

Give an example

Also, when I said study, I meant study openly not with a biased critical eye. :unimpressed:
 

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All of that is irrelevant. There is a group of people today that follows the Old Testament and a group that follows the New Testament.

Regardless of if Jesus even existed, his character still ties these 2 groups of people together. This cannot be disputed. The names never mattered. Jesus, Yeshua, Isa... what’s important is what was said and far more important is what it meant.
how can one understand the intent of a message, to feel the meaning and understand the words :jbhmm:

the false conflicts all go back to Cain's perception :hubie:
 

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I have no idea what Zhang has to do with Hebrew, Hebrews and Afroasiatic cultures. It shows that you are clueless, which is actually very sad.

You've lost the basic sense of rationality, so you start to babble irrationally. You don't know the basics of this subject.

i dont understand most of things you post either :mjgrin: whats the problem

as i said earlier: Why are you so frustrated?

"The Way of Listening is to be giddy as though soused. Be dumber and dumber. Let others deploy themselves, and accordingly I shall know them."

Right and wrong whirl around him like spokes on a wheel, but the sovereign does not complot. Emptiness, stillness, non-action—these are the characteristics of the Way. By checking and comparing how it accords with reality, the "performance" of an enterprise.

Han Fei

 
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All of that is irrelevant. There is a group of people today that follows the Old Testament and a group that follows the New Testament.

Regardless of if Jesus even existed, his character still ties these 2 groups of people together. This cannot be disputed. The names never mattered. Jesus, Yeshua, Isa... what’s important is what was said and far more important is what it meant.

All that is very relevant and it's the basis of the premise. Perhaps you need to read into the history of the Byzantine?

I asked what does Jesus mean, not did Jesus exist. The names surly do matter. If not, why not use Yeshua? lol

Throughout the history of the Hebrew many names and foreign deities were attached and served and rejected.
 

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i dont understand most of things you post either :mjgrin: whats the problem

as i said earlier: Why are you so frustrated?
That's the problem with you, you have. smh And you don't even see it. You read the Bible, but don't understand it. Because you don't understand the history that is attached to it. lol For this reason there are so many dumb negroes such as yourself with an IQ below zero.
 

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That's the problem with you, you have. smh And you don't even see it. You read the Bible, but don't understand it. Because you don't understand the history that is attached to it. lol For this reason there are so many dumb negroes such as yourself with an IQ below zero.
dont you just wish you could get rid of everybody you dislike :mjpls:

Matthew 16:21-24

21 From that time forth began Jesus to shew unto his disciples, how that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and be raised again the third day.

22 Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee.

23 But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men.

24 Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me.
 

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dont you just wish you could get rid of everybody you dislike :mjpls:

Dumb negroes such as yourself with an IQ below zero babbling about the Bible all day and don't even know the history of the book itself and the people it talks about. You probably don't even know how to run your own household properly. Meanwhile these communities are creating drones that land on the moon. While you're sitting her quoting how you will go to heaven when you die?
 

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Johnny Kilroy said:
Jesus was a Jew sent to the lost sheep of Israel

Matthew 28:19-20

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”
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Give an example

Also, when I said study, I meant study openly not with a biased critical eye.

An example of the difference would be like I previously stated: Allah has no 'son'. YHWH does.

There is no bias in what I stated and I looked at ALL the texts critically.​
 
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Matthew 28:19-20

Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”


An example of the difference would be like I previously stated: Allah has no 'son'. YHWH does.

There is no bias in what I stated and I looked at ALL the texts critically.​

Sir, what is the history of the word YHWH? Tell me in detail the origin and how it transpired! And why does Matthew 28:19-20 not speak of YHWH?
 
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