Christians, Jews, Muslims, Catholics, and the NOI all believe in the same God.

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Because uncle farad is not arabic or arab! He didnt speak Arabic or wrote in Arabic either you dumb piece of swine.

You are a lost Munafic00n. Point blank.

Wesley is not a scholar in islam. Period. Have you heard him recite the quran? Dont make me laugh.

I never stated that NOI was not catered to the american conditions of the receivers ie black people. But NOI is not related to Al Sunnah Al Islam.

Ask your NOI homies about the shahadah??

And on what do you base that he was not Arabic? I posted a 4 hour lecture by Dr. Wesley Muhammad debunking the shyt out of you.

Wesley is not a scholar in Islam? Ok, that's a new one. lol

"Muhammad's research has been published in the International Journal of Middle East Studies, the Journal of the American Oriental Society, and the American Journal of Islamic Social Sciences. He has been an instructor on courses on Islamic Studies, Religious Studies, African American Religion, and Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Toledo and Michigan State University."


There is no universal law that says you have to be related to the Al Sunnah Al Islam.lol It's their school of thought that's all. None of the Al Sunnah Al Islam when through the same hardship as Black Americans did in the Americas, or as the Hon Elijah Muhammad says the wilderness of North America.
 

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Yeah I don’t think you understand at all if that’s the conclusion you draw.

Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the God of Abraham no matter how upset that makes you. :yeshrug:
folks dont understand the "satan divided against himself" line from Jesus

I actually think many Abrahamic followers could learn something from this Taoist concept

Wu wei - Wikipedia

When your body is not aligned [形不正],
The inner power will not come.
When you are not tranquil within [中不靜],
Your mind will not be well ordered.
Align your body, assist the inner power [正形攝德],
Then it will gradually come on its own.[16]

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And on what do you base that he was not Arabic? I posted a 4 hour lecture by Dr. Wesley Muhammad debunking the shyt out of you.

Wesley is not a scholar in Islam? Ok, that's a new one. lol

"Muhammad's research has been published in the International Journal of Middle East Studies, the Journal of the American Oriental Society, and the American Journal of Islamic Social Sciences. He has been an instructor on courses on Islamic Studies, Religious Studies, African American Religion, and Middle Eastern Studies at the University of Toledo and Michigan State University."


There is no universal law that says you have to be related to the Al Sunnah Al Islam.lol It's their school of thought that's all. None of the Al Sunnah Al Islam when through the same hardship as Black Americans did in the Americas, or as the Hon Elijah Muhammad says the wilderness of North America.
The deen al Islam is created on its decree or Shahadah first!
One who is muslim must believe in this testimony- "I bear witness that there is no true deity but God, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God." ...you know the arabic pronounciation of it.
The NOI brothers and sisters are taught that Allah came in person of WD FARD which makes him ALLAH and Elijah Muhammad was his messenger..this is their DECREE!

are you following me homie?
 

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Typical ow IQ reaction. I can cite countless of Christians who used the Bible and biblical sources and who now in jail for the most heinous crimes.

Word is that King James had a broken wrist.
When you enlarge your mind and let go of it,
When you relax your vital breath and expand it,
When your body is calm and unmoving:
And you can maintain the One and discard the myriad disturbances.
You will see profit and not be enticed by it,
You will see harm and not be frightened by it.
Relaxed and unwound, yet acutely sensitive,
In solitude you delight in your own person.
This is called "revolving the vital breath":
Your thoughts and deeds seem heavenly.
 

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Yes, and Muslims don't worship the same 'god' as Christians and Jews. Different names, different attributes, different beings.​
Before Islam as a universe concept these people predominant were christians and they referred to Allah as people in predominantly Muslims countries still do. Allah stems from Alla in what is known as Babylon. Abraham came from Babylon as did many others. The Proto-Semitic root word of Alla is AL, EL, IL. which is a singular ʾIlāh is Arabic Elōhim is Hebrew, these are plural.
 
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The deen al Islam is created on its decree or Shahadah first!
One who is muslim must believe in this testimony- "I bear witness that there is no true deity but God, and I bear witness that Muhammad is the messenger of God." ...you know the arabic pronounciation of it.
The NOI brothers and sisters are taught that Allah came in person of WD FARD which makes him ALLAH and Elijah Muhammad was his messenger..this is their DECREE!

are you following me homie?
Dumb dumb, who would have invoked shahadah during slavery and later the Jim Crown laws? Who founded the shahadah principles?

Again the NOI is not rooted in that, it's rooted in the Al mahdi. This belief is rooted in the power of self. This is not a foreign concept to the history of Islam.
 

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When you enlarge your mind and let go of it,
When you relax your vital breath and expand it,
When your body is calm and unmoving:
And you can maintain the One and discard the myriad disturbances.
You will see profit and not be enticed by it,
You will see harm and not be frightened by it.
Relaxed and unwound, yet acutely sensitive,
In solitude you delight in your own person.
This is called "revolving the vital breath":
Your thoughts and deeds seem heavenly.

Kiss this picture, of your uber lord. Doesn't he look sweet?

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The Greek alphabet doesn't have the letter "J", nor does Afroasiatic.

"That is a modern day euphemism, the letter “J” did not appear until the 16th century. It is accredited to Giovanni Giorgio Trissino (1478-1550) He invented the glyph which was a combination of the “I” & “i” with an elongated extension to encompass the “Ja” sound which had been unwritten but was spoken".
 
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folks dont understand the "satan divided against himself" line from Jesus

I actually think many Abrahamic followers could learn something from this Taoist concept

Wu wei - Wikipedia



:ehh:

Christians fight Jews, Jews fight Christians, yet they rep the same set.

And the Quran explicitly names Jews and Christians as those who will have their reward with their Lord.

Yet and still...

3 GPS routes, 1 destination. So many argue about which road to take and never actually get there. :wow:
 
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Don’t Arab Christians call Jah Allah?
 

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Johnny Kilroy said:
Yeah I don’t think you understand at all if that’s the conclusion you draw.

I understand completely and the conclusion is correct.
Johnny Kilroy said:
Christians, Jews and Muslims all worship the God of Abraham no matter how upset that makes you.

False. Christians and Jews worship one elohim, Muslims worship another no matter how upset that makes you. This is shown by the texts they regard as authoritative.

The Muslim one has no 'son'. The Jewish/Christian one does. This is just one fundamental difference between them.​
 

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I understand completely and the conclusion is correct.


False. Christians and Jews worship one elohim, Muslims worship another no matter how upset that makes you. This is shown by the texts they regard as authoritative.

The Muslim one has no 'son'. The Jewish/Christian one does. This is just one fundamental difference between them.​

Have you ever studied Islam? Have you ever practiced it?

No Muslim on Earth would agree with what you’re saying and I trust them over you on the subject of what they believe. :yeshrug:
 

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Christians fight Jews, Jews fight Christians, yet they rep the same set.

And the Quran explicitly names Jews and Christians as those who will have their reward with their Lord.

Yet and still...

3 GPS routes, 1 destination. So many argue about which road to take and never actually get there. :wow:

They do not represent the same set, that's the point. People don't know the deeper meaning of these things. As I explained from the get go, there have been groups who wrote themselves into this and attached themselves onto this. Many groups over time identified themselves, but are not.

During this period there were a lot of conversation.

"This chapter in the Jewish diaspora, however, never has been really written, for the Hebrews deported from Israel seem to have blended in with Assyrian society and, by the time Nebuchadnezzar II conquers Judah (587 BC), the southern kingdom of the Hebrews, the Israelites deported by Sargon II have disappeared nameless and faceless into the sands of northern Mesopotamia."
The Assyrians

During the second destruction there was again a lot of conversations.

"Conversion to Judaism was common in Rome in the first centuries BC and AD. Judaism gained many followers among all ranks of Roman Society [10-13]."
Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin1,2,3 et al.
1 Department of Haematology and Genetic Pathology, School of Medicine, Flinders University, Adelaide, Australia
2 Department of Human Genetics, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel
3 Current Address: Blood Bank, Sheba Medical Center, Ramat-Gan 52621, Israel
"The origin of Eastern European Jews revealed by autosomal, sex chromosomal and mtDNA polymorphisms"
 

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They do not represent the same set, that's the point. People don't know the deeper meaning of these things. As I explained from the get go, there have been groups who wrote themselves into this and attached themselves onto this. Many groups over time identified themselves, but are not.

During this period there were a lot of conversation.


The Assyrians

During the second destruction there was again a lot of conversations.


Avshalom Zoossmann-Diskin1,2,3 et al.
1 Department of Haematology and Genetic Pathology, School of Medicine, Flinders University, Adelaide, Australia
2 Department of Human Genetics, Sackler Faculty of Medicine, Tel-Aviv University, Israel
3 Current Address: Blood Bank, Sheba Medical Center, Ramat-Gan 52621, Israel
"The origin of Eastern European Jews revealed by autosomal, sex chromosomal and mtDNA polymorphisms"

Jesus was a Jew sent to the lost sheep of Israel
 
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