Art Of War was a phenomenal dip for the Bone boys. Forever outsold 36 Chambers. Get it together.
i recall you claiming that art of war was just as good as e.99 eternal.
CHIP MATCH: Bone Thugs-N-Harmony vs. The Wu-Tang Clan
i recall you claiming that art of war was just as good as e.99 eternal.
Its LEAGUES better.
Honestly, 36 chambers is as classic as they come but so is E.1999, but Bone kept a nice lil run with their first 4 albums, Wu had HUGE fall offs in quality after 36 chambers and I blame that on having "too many nikkas on the same blunt" (literally too
). You had cats putting their best work on solo albums then coasting on the group albums, then you had nikkas who just weren't on the same level as the rest trying to get more focus on the group album because that was the only outlet they had. History has shown how the group dynamic is bad for longevity so I give them props for even having that many nikkas in the group to begin with but can you sit here and honestly tell me their group run wouldn't have been better had it been JUST GZA, Meth, Deck, Rae, Ghost with RZA only behind the boards and ODB only for skits?
I think I could convince @Bonefan32 to vote for Wu
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afterwards I vote for bone anyway
Art Of War was a phenomenal dip for the Bone boys. Forever outsold 36 Chambers. Get it together.
Forever only "sold more" because it was a double disc, do I need to explain how double disc count twice or did you forget that? And E.1999 and AoW outsold BOTH and ALL of the Wu albums individually anyway so its a moot point. And Art of War was no less than a 4 mic album, its a PERSONAL favorite, but I can concede its not a classic, but the dip from E.1999 to AoW wasn't nearly as severe as 36 to Forever.
If you are a Wu fan I KNOW you aren't prepared to say Forever was anywhere close to a good album as 36 Chambers
thread is funny, let the coli tell it, bone vs wu is the third greatest debate in hip hop after pac vs big, nas vs jay, and ahead of foxy vs kim
fun tournament tho, i'm not really feeling the nit version, but maybe you should do one for female mc's (i don't think one for solo male mc's is even feasible)
Who the fukk wastes their time arguing about two greasy bytches that don't write their own lyrics?
Its LEAGUES better.
Honestly, 36 chambers is as classic as they come but so is E.1999, but Bone kept a nice lil run with their first 4 albums, Wu had HUGE fall offs in quality after 36 chambers and I blame that on having "too many nikkas on the same blunt" (literally too
You had cats putting their best work on solo albums then coasting on the group albums, then you had nikkas who just weren't on the same level as the rest trying to get more focus on the group album because that was the only outlet they had. History has shown how the group dynamic is bad for longevity so I give them props for even having that many nikkas in the group to begin with but can you sit here and honestly tell me their group run wouldn't have been better had it been JUST GZA, Meth, Deck, Rae, Ghost with RZA only behind the boards and ODB only for skits?
I do think Bone had better albums than Wu yes overall. Though I hold 36 Chambers and Wu Tang Forever in a very high regard. But when listening back Bone had more dope shyt to me. When it comes to group albums.
itsyoung!!
Veteran
I think those 2 along with Outkast are the 3 greatest groups in Hiphop history, with all due respect to Run DMC, Public Enemy and NWA but those Holy 3 would slaughter the older groups lyrically. Any of us preferring one group over the other is ok because they are all great, but to dismiss either or any group as overrated is a damn insult to Hiphop history.
I liked this run from Bone....
Wu I fukked with the 1st 2 hard but after that not so much though they had some joints.
- 1993: Faces of Death
- 1994: Creepin on ah Come Up (EP)
- 1995: E. 1999 Eternal
- 1997: The Art of War
- 2000: BTNHResurrection
Wu I fukked with the 1st 2 hard but after that not so much though they had some joints.
I will admit after BTNHResurrection, they took a dip in quality but a big part of it was that they couldn't keep the damn group together. Unlike Wu, Bone's individual members all complimented each other and made the group stronger, even Wish, who by consensus was the weakest member, offset the groups sound and gave them a much harder edge than they would have without him. They were a REAL group, unlike Wu which started out that way but turned into a solo artist collaboration effort.
Man what?like bone didn't lace soundtracks. Dayz of our lives was on set it off soundtrack and they had a cut on the show soundtrack. Not to mention shoot em up from the great white hype ost.
And bone the only group to work both tupac and biggie.
yep.
clear illustration of just how one-sided and oblivious these wutang arguments are.
its beyond laughable.
Big Mel
@bigboss
Wu Tang Forever is a much better album then East 1999 to me. Like not even close at all.
Forever sold more than 36 but wasn't as good. Forever is still thrice the album East 1999 is IMO. AOW only got la few spins before being shelved. Fast rapping barely holds my interest for a LP let alone a double disc. It's why Creepin' On Ah Come Up is my fav Bone release. Perfect amount of Bone. Pause.
Forever sold more than 36 but wasn't as good. Forever is still thrice the album East 1999 is IMO. AOW only got la few spins before being shelved. Fast rapping barely holds my interest for a LP let alone a double disc. It's why Creepin' On Ah Come Up is my fav Bone release. Perfect amount of Bone. Pause.
Krayzie and Bizzy both had good solo albums that nobody ever mentions either, but once again we are talking group efforts so I wouldn't count any solo work
I do feel like Wu had a significant fall off in regards to group albums, Bone's quality lasted longer to me, but Bone declined a bit to me like you said when they had the serious member issues. But even Thug World Order had some excellent tracks. They reemerged nicely though later on after probably some weaker efforts...